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Send in the tanks! (Chavez)

Childlike Empress said:
Just imagine Obama would give an annual accountability report. More than 30 minutes, without commercial breaks. Without teleprompter. In detail. If you haven't failed yet, imagine the audience he'd have. Everybody'd switched to Oprah or some silly sports in a New York second. Why care?

Chavez doesn't talk to the wall. People want to know.
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Is that why the stations have to carry his speeches?
 
WildCat said:
Why are you asking me about number of radio stations? What does that metric measure?
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you seemed to imply the presented numbers are wrong. So i wondered if you had contradicting numbers. semms not.
 
What does CE have to say?

A) Any report that portrays Chavez in a positive light is true.


B) Any report that portrays Chavez in a negative light is false.


Therefore, Virus, your report is false.
 
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DC said:
you seemed to imply the presented numbers are wrong. So i wondered if you had contradicting numbers. semms not.
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I never said anything about the numbers of radio stations in Venezuela, nor have I ever given a damn.
 
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DC said:
no. but still just because a country is perceived as the most corrupt, does not actually have to mean it is the most corrupt.
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Agreed, but the index sourced now surveys those who do business with, and investigate, international players. Which is a vast improvement over measuring public opinion, the way they used to do it. It's not perfect- but IMO it's an intelligent approach.
 
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trustbutverify said:
What does CE have to say?

A) Any report that portrays Chavez in a positive light is true.


B) Any report that portrays Chavez in a negative light is false.


Therefore, Virus, your report is false.
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These are the doofuses she thinks produce reliable information on Hugo Chavez.
 
Hugo Chavez thinks the US used a machine to cause the earthquake in Haiti.



Do you believe the US has an earthquake machine CE?
 
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WildCat said:
That site reminds me of the magazine East Germany used to put out in English, the DDR Review. My high school German teacher (sorry, don't remember much of the language, this was the early 1980s!) used to have it in her class, fascinating reading. You'd think the DDR was a fantastic place to live from that magazine - lots of happy kids swimming in a new water park, beautiful new buildings opening up everywhere, people gushing about what a great place it is to live and how everyone is so happy there.
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And useful idiots still fall for the old tricks. The myth of the "real socialism" is too powerful for them to resist.
 
I say finding flaws with Venezuela and silly things Chavez said doesn't change the fact that the man is far from a dictator like the corporate media clowns label him, and the movement he leads is a huge success and a model for other countries, if one only looks at the really important indicators, what it meant for everybody but the former ruling elite. That is if one actually "gives a damn" about the people and not only about access to markets which were considered as the US backyard for many decades, and are now acting in their own favor through a movement that is not by accident named after Simon Bolivar, who liberated large parts of South America from Spanish colonialism. How dare they, eh?
 
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Childlike Empress said:
I say finding flaws with Venezuela and silly things Chavez said doesn't change the fact that the man is far from a dictator like the corporate media clowns label him, and the movement he leads is a huge success and a model for other countries, if one only looks at the really important indicators, what it meant for everybody but the former ruling elite. That is if one actually "gives a damn" about the people and not only about access to markets which were considered as the US backyard for many decades, and are now acting in their own favor through a movement that is not by accident named after Simon Bolivar, who liberated large parts of South America from Spanish colonialism. How dare they, eh?
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i personally think Lula's Brazil is a far better role example. Maybe not revolutionary, but reformist. its a much better way to go. creates less problems, is a bit slower, but better in the long run.
but i agree, labeling him a dictator by the media is hypocritical at an extreme. you don't here them calling the Saudi dictator a dictator, because he is our partner.
 
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He's not far from a dictator, he's close to one. Which is why political power, the media and the economy is increasingly being centralized under the control of this buffoon.

It's the same thing as all the other failed attempts at building utopian socialist dictatorships.
 
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Virus said:
He's not far from a dictator, he's close to one. Which is why political power, the media and the economy is increasingly being centralized under the control of this buffoon.
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you have evidence that he is centralizing the media?
 
DC said:
you have evidence that he is centralizing the media?
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Here:

The gradual erosion of press freedom in Venezuela continued in 2010. The media landscape featured political intimidation by government officials and state-owned media in their opinion programs, laws restricting the exercise of basic human rights, systematic judicial and administrative harassment of opposition outlets, economic threats against independent media, and physical attacks against journalists amid a worsening climate of common criminality.
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Virus said:
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that is a centralisation in your book? for me those are violations of freedom of press and a lack of protection for journalists.
a cenrtalisation for me would be if he nationalized newspapers radio stations and tv stations.
 
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