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Send in the tanks! (Chavez)

What do you have to say about the decline of political and civil freedom under Chavez's authoritarian rule? What do you have to say about the centralization of party control? The removal of checks and balances on the ruling party? The annulment of the separation of powers? The growing restrictions on press freedom? The lack of property rights?

I'll wager that you don't care. Because lefto-fascists don't support things like the separation of powers, checks and balances, a free press or property rights anyway.
 
Hugo Chavez is a Truther.



Hugo Chavez thinks the moon landings were fake.

"I don't know anything about Osama Bin Laden that doesn't come to me through the filter of the West and its propaganda." To this, Penn replied that surely Bin Laden had provided quite a number of his very own broadcasts and videos. I was again impressed by the way that Chávez rejected this proffered lucid-interval lifeline. All of this so-called evidence, too, was a mere product of imperialist television. After all, "there is film of the Americans landing on the moon," he scoffed. "Does that mean the moon shot really happened? In the film, the Yanqui flag is flying straight out. So, is there wind on the moon?" As Chávez beamed with triumph at this logic, an awkwardness descended on my comrades, and on the conversation.

Chávez, in other words, is very close to the climactic moment when he will announce that he is a poached egg and that he requires a very large piece of buttered toast so that he can lie down and take a soothing nap.
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"Freedom House" is an NGO only on paper and nearly completely funded by the US government. Therefore, their reports on "enemies" of the US are highly biased and according to the propaganda model to be taken with a huge grain of salt. Effectively they are, like the late Hitchens, a whore of the Empire.
 
Childlike Empress said:
What are you, imitating Pardalis? ;)

Chavez does not murder those people, gangs do. No tu quoque anywhere, just an underbelly sidekick.
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Maybe if Chavez had his police forcees investigate murders instead of opposition news media (what little of it that hasn't been shut down by him) and politicians they might solve a few of them.

Just a thought.
 
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Virus said:
How do you respond the fact that Venezuela ranks the lowest of all Latin American states on the Democracy Index, save for Communist Cuba?
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Lol. The "Economist Intelligence Unit"? Give me a break, that's far worse than Freedom House and completely arbitrary and politicized. France is a "flawed democracy" behind South Africa? Really? And Colombia and Indonesia are also only "flawed", while Bolivia and Venezuela are "hybrid regimes" far behind Mali? As are Georgia and friggin Egypt? While Russia is "authoritarian"? Too funny.
 
WildCat said:
Maybe if Chavez had his police forcees investigate murders instead of opposition news media (what little of it that hasn't been shut down by him) and politicians they might solve a few of them.

Just a thought.
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The traditional media market especially print is still dominated by private players like the parents of Capriles, and kicking that one reactionary station off the airwaves (not shut down as you know well, an act discussed at length in this thread, including the coverage in the corporate press compared to that of Colombia's similar actions) didn't change anything about that.

What has changed in the media landscape though is described here.

Luis Rivero Donalle said:
Today we celebrate the national day of journalists in Venezuela. Because of this day, it’s worth remembering a phrase that was written in the streets of Argentina during the December 2001 crisis: “They piss on us and the press says it’s raining”. This aphorism captions the situation of the social media today. Readers are reading, listening, or watching the information they receive more and more carefully.

However, the people of Venezuela have gone beyond that. [...]

[The director of alternative and community media with the communications ministry] Reinaldo Escorcia considers the 2002 Regulation of Radio Difusion and Community Open Television for Public Service and Non Profit a landmark in popular communication: “That was the first tool that gave those types of media legality. From that moment popular communication began to grow”. [...]

Escorcia said that from 2002 growth of popular media has been blooming. According to ministry of communication statistics, between that year and 2009, over 200 radio and television operators around Venezuela went to air.

In that regard, the current list of popular media that the National Telecommunication Commission has on its website includes 244 radio stations and 36 television stations. Of those, the greatest number of radio stations are in Zulia state, with 26, followed by Merida wtih 21, and Lara with 19. In television, the states with more alternative and community channels are Aragua and Tachira, with 5, followed by Zulia and Miranda with 3.

Regarding printed and digital media, the ministry civil servant said that there are currently more than 2015 print publications, and around 80 digital ones. [...]

On the support provided by the Bolivarian government to the popular media, Escorcia pointed out its technical, technological, and educational support. “The state is a companion in this process. The movement is autonomous and its respected as such”. [...]
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Childlike Empress said:
The traditional media market especially print is still dominated by private players like the parents of Capriles, and kicking that one reactionary station off the airwaves (not shut down as you know well, an act discussed at length in this thread, including the coverage in the corporate press compared to that of Colombia's similar actions) didn't change anything about that.

What has changed in the media landscape though is described here.
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OMG, with such a reliable source it must be true! I mean, if you can't take the word of Hugo's lackeys and sycophants whose can you?
 
WildCat said:
OMG, with such a reliable source it must be true! I mean, if you can't take the word of Hugo's lackeys and sycophants whose can you?
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you have contradicting numbers from a better source?
 
Twice as many sycophant radio stations doesn't mean twice as much press freedom.
 
DC said:
they dont give any numbers on how many radio stations went on air or how many tv stations.
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Have you yet explained what metric you think the number of TV stations and radio stations is measuring?

Because I'm not seeing the significance.

That site reminds me of the magazine East Germany used to put out in English, the DDR Review. My high school German teacher (sorry, don't remember much of the language, this was the early 1980s!) used to have it in her class, fascinating reading. You'd think the DDR was a fantastic place to live from that magazine - lots of happy kids swimming in a new water park, beautiful new buildings opening up everywhere, people gushing about what a great place it is to live and how everyone is so happy there.
 
WildCat said:
Have you yet explained what metric you think the number of TV stations and radio stations is measuring?

Because I'm not seeing the significance.

That site reminds me of the magazine East Germany used to put out in English, the DDR Review. My high school German teacher (sorry, don't remember much of the language, this was the early 1980s!) used to have it in her class, fascinating reading. You'd think the DDR was a fantastic place to live from that magazine - lots of happy kids swimming in a new water park, beautiful new buildings opening up everywhere, people gushing about what a great place it is to live and how everyone is so happy there.
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nice story, i take that as a no then :)
 
WildCat said:
The Soviet Union had lots of radio stations too. How else will the people hear the 9 hour speeches by Dear Leader they are yearning for?
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Just imagine Obama would give an annual accountability report. More than 30 minutes, without commercial breaks. Without teleprompter. In detail. If you haven't failed yet, imagine the audience he'd have. Everybody'd switched to Oprah or some silly sports in a New York second. Why care?

Chavez doesn't talk to the wall. People want to know.
 
Childlike Empress said:
Just imagine Obama would give an annual accountability report. More than 30 minutes, without commercial breaks. Without teleprompter. In detail. If you haven't failed yet, imagine the audience he'd have. Everybody'd switched to Oprah or some silly sports in a New York second. Why care?

Chavez doesn't talk to the wall. People want to know.
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i doubt that. he would not need a law making it mandated to be broadcastet. all people wanting to hear it could switch to the public TV/radio channel and listen.
 
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