Richard Gage Blueprint for Truth Rebuttals on YouTube by Chris Mohr

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They haven't.

NIST did two data fits. The linear regression is a way of finding the average acceleration, and both Chandler and NIST agree on what the average acceleration is for a certain period of time. That's all they agree on. However, NIST did also another curve fit, which goes over g. Chandler didn't do this fit. NIST's analysis leaves the door open to the possibility that the acceleration wasn't constant; Chandler's doesn't.
The variation from FFA, if it existed, is negligible.

There are reasons to think that the acceleration indeed went over g for a certain period of time, therefore the average acceleration is not enough to study the behavior of the building, and thus the linear fit is not the whole story, but just what it is: an average.
No matter how y'all try to tap dance around it, the fact remains that the columns were providing negligible [too small to be considered - virtually zero] resistance during the 2.25s of FFA [NIST said at FFA] or ~FFA if you prefer.

According to NIST, the point they were measuring moved down ~7' and then virtually all resistance disappeared and the building fell at FFA.

But the columns in their computer model are still bending and providing resistance when the building had descended ~20'.

nistwtc7modelvideo14s16.jpg
 
Have you read this yet? One does not need a college education to see the unscientific elements and fraudulent tests in the final NIST report on WTC 7.
http://truthphalanx.com/chris_sarns/

You have been informed that NIST lied about the width of the girder seat and omitted the stiffeners to get their walk-off theory to work.

If you write those fraudulent factors off as innocent mistakes, you are either lying to yourself or to me.

She was highly qualified to say that NIST report is not science. Have you watched this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0fkDmi78Og\
If not, you cannot properly judge her relevance. You have not heard her explanation of how science works and why the NIST report is not science.

You may not agree with her but don't say she isn't qualified to say the NIST reports were not science.

Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance. -- Albert Einstein.
C7,
Go back to post 5807 where I link you to a vast array of peer-reviewed papers etc re natural collapse of the WTC Buildings. All are in general agreement with the NIST Report. Look at the names of the 1000 or so specialists on that list who have researched 9/11 collapses. You completely ignored all of these. Why should I look at a biologist's opinion of a structural failure issue when I can read hundreds of SE's and what THEY think about it? You owe me an explanation as to how so many physicists, SE's, forensics experts, fire safety experts and others could be participating in the "nonscientific" process of supporting the NIST Report?? Please at least look over this list and then explain to my satisfaction how they are all part of... what? scientific fraud? Ignorance? You tell me, I can't imagine myself. You can't just throw more stuff at me and say answer this while ignoring what I have shown you.

BTW the conversation about science vs engineering and the NIST Report is interesting but semantic. Seems to me that engineering is an applied science and finds practical uses for principles of physics, chemistry, aeronautics, etc. But clearly this is not what Chris7 and his ilk are talking about.
 
The variation from FFA, if it existed, is negligible.
You have no basis to make this statement. Looking at an average graph won't tell you the instant acceleration. All you have a basis to say is that the variation from FFA for the average acceleration over a chosen set of points is negligible.

No matter how y'all try to tap dance around it, the fact remains that the columns were providing negligible [too small to be considered - virtually zero] resistance during the 2.25s of FFA [NIST said at FFA] or ~FFA if you prefer.
Wrong. The fact remains that when the upward (resistance) force and the downward (pull-down) force cancel each other, the façade falls with free fall acceleration, and that there's strong evidence pointing to a period of acceleration greater than g, meaning there was a downward force that you are neglecting to consider all the time, likely to be responsible of canceling the resistance force of the columns.
 
...Seems to me that engineering is an applied science and finds practical uses for principles of physics, chemistry, aeronautics, etc....
Agreed - and sometimes the difference between "the Scientific Method" and "engineering forensic investigation" matters in these 9/11 discussions. We only need to be aware that there are differences and alert to when those differences matter so we don't make or fall for wrong arguments.
......But clearly this is not what Chris7 and his ilk are talking about.
The only distinction that I think matters is between "are they trying to pursue reasoned discussion?" OR "are they following another agenda described by that 'T' word?" :rolleyes:
 
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We discussed this in 2010. Again, it is likely a halo or ringing artefact...

In video circuits, electrical ringing causes closely spaced repeated ghosts of a vertical or diagonal edge where dark changes to light or vice versa, going from left to right. In a CRT the electron beam upon changing from dark to light or vice versa instead of changing quickly to the desired intensity and staying there, overshoots and undershoots a few times. This bouncing could occur anywhere in the electronics or cabling and is often caused by or accentuated by a too high setting of the sharpness control.

You're guessing. You're guessing wrong.

Giving something a name (like "halo") doesn't explain the cause.

There is no "bouncing". The transitions in the image are monotonic.

Your explanation that nonexistent bouncing could occur anywhere in electronics or cables explains nothing.

It is not related to any analog CRT beam spot control.

If it were somehow related to a crt transition, or any of the analog ringing effects that you allude to, then you'd see the effect on vertical lines in the image and not horizontal lines, since there are no transitions on horizontal borders for a horizontally moving beam.

I believe that this still unexplained effect is somehow related to a 2 dimensional spatial filter in which there are negative coefficients attached to intensities values of nearby pixels.
 
C7,
Go back to post 5807 where I link you to a vast array of peer-reviewed papers etc re natural collapse of the WTC Buildings.
I have seen the list and have commented on some of the entries on various threads here.

All are in general agreement with the NIST Report.
CTBUH essentially refutes the NIST hypothesis by saying the fires had passed their peak and proposed that thermal contraction might have been the cause of the collapse.

Look at the names of the 1000 or so specialists on that list who have researched 9/11 collapses. You completely ignored all of these.
Have you read what those 1,000 people actually had to say? Do they agree with the NIST report conclusions based on their own research? Or are they parroting what they have read?

Why should I look at a biologist's opinion of a structural failure issue when I can read hundreds of SE's and what THEY think about it?
Lynn was speaking about the scientific investigation process. An area where her expertise far exceeds that of a structural engineer.


You owe me an explanation as to how so many physicists, SE's, forensics experts, fire safety experts and others could be participating in the "nonscientific" process of supporting the NIST Report?? Please at least look over this list and then explain to my satisfaction how they are all part of... what? scientific fraud? Ignorance? You tell me, I can't imagine myself. You can't just throw more stuff at me and say answer this while ignoring what I have shown you.
I will give it some of my limited time and get back to you.

BTW the conversation about science vs engineering and the NIST Report is interesting but semantic. Seems to me that engineering is an applied science and finds practical uses for principles of physics, chemistry, aeronautics, etc. But clearly this is not what Chris7 and his ilk are talking about.
Although engineering knowledge is necessary in the investigation of the destruction WTC 7, investigation [reconstructing what happened in the past] is an entirely different scientific process than designing a building.

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There is NO valid science to establish the leverage effect could have been a factor. It's pure speculation and has no place in a rebuttal video.

The >g ~FFA argument is moot. Even if the NW corner exceeded g for a moment because the core was pulling down on it [see here] , the drop of WTC 7 for those 2+ seconds could only occur if there were virtually "no structural components below it". This is axiomatic. Your "net zero resistance" in this case has no foundation in science.

The NIST model is providing significant resistance well into the FFA part of the collapse and therefore it is not falling at or "about" FFA.

The engineers told you that columns only lose a little of their resisting ability at first. The resistance goes from 100% to about 2% when the column is fully hinged as shown in the example on the right. During that time the acceleration increases as the resistance decreases. There is no FFA while the columns are buckling.

bucklonggraph.jpg
 
I have seen the list and have commented on some of the entries on various threads here.

CTBUH essentially refutes the NIST hypothesis by saying the fires had passed their peak and proposed that thermal contraction might have been the cause of the collapse.

Have you read what those 1,000 people actually had to say? Do they agree with the NIST report conclusions based on their own research? Or are they parroting what they have read?

Lynn was speaking about the scientific investigation process. An area where her expertise far exceeds that of a structural engineer.


I will give it some of my limited time and get back to you.

Although engineering knowledge is necessary in the investigation of the destruction WTC 7, investigation [reconstructing what happened in the past] is an entirely different scientific process than designing a building.

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There is NO valid science to establish the leverage effect could have been a factor. It's pure speculation and has no place in a rebuttal video.

The >g ~FFA argument is moot. Even if the NW corner exceeded g for a moment because the core was pulling down on it [see here] , the drop of WTC 7 for those 2+ seconds could only occur if there were virtually "no structural components below it". This is axiomatic. Your "net zero resistance" in this case has no foundation in science.

The NIST model is providing significant resistance well into the FFA part of the collapse and therefore it is not falling at or "about" FFA.

The engineers told you that columns only lose a little of their resisting ability at first. The resistance goes from 100% to about 2% when the column is fully hinged as shown in the example on the right. During that time the acceleration increases as the resistance decreases. There is no FFA while the columns are buckling.

[qimg]http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/9053/bucklonggraph.jpg[/qimg]

Please show us where NIST reports having found the roving fires were at their peak (whatever that means) coinciding with the WTC7 collapse?
 
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CTBUH essentially refutes the NIST hypothesis by saying the fires had passed their peak and proposed that thermal contraction might have been the cause of the collapse.
"The" NIST hypothesis is that fires caused lateral supports to disconnect from a critical column, triggering the progressive collapse as seen.

C7, here a list with 5 claims about CBTUH's position. Please indicate which of these 5 statements you agree with, and which you disagree with. Please provide reasons if you disagree with any:

  1. CTBUH does not refute "the" NIST hypothesis as a whole (fires expanded girder; girder fell off as a consequence of this fire effect; progressive collapse ensued), it merely disagrees with a specific detail (girder contraction, rather than expansion, immediately preceded the critical failure).
  2. CTBUH agrees that fires caused column 79 to lose lateral bracing
  3. CTBUH agrees that the progressive collapse that follows was caused by this initial, fire-induced failure.
  4. CTBUH essentially agrees with NIST's hypothesis (fires expanded girder; girder fell off as a consequence of this fire effect; progressive collapse ensued)
  5. CTBUH essentially refutes any theory that is based on root causes other than office fires, including any and all CD fantasies.

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There is NO valid science to establish the leverage effect could have been a factor. It's pure speculation and has no place in a rebuttal video.

The >g ~FFA argument is moot. Even if the NW corner exceeded g for a moment because the core was pulling down on it [see here]
You contradict yourself here.
"The core pulling down" IS "a leverage effect"

, the drop of WTC 7 for those 2+ seconds could only occur if there were virtually "no structural components below it". This is axiomatic.
And here we have the core of your error: You assume an axiom which is not axiom.

AxiomWP:
Wikipedia said:
... An axiom is defined as a mathematical statement that is accepted as being true without a mathematical proof.
You simply assert the statement is true, and by calling it "axiomatic", you assume the right to make the claim without proof. So essentially, what you wrote there fulfills the "Assuming the Conclusion" logical fallacy: "I assume, explicitly and consciously without evidence, there was no structural resistance, therefore there was no structural resistance".

In reality, it is axiomatic that an effective non-zero force vector, giving rise to an acceleration a = f/m, is the sum of 1 or more forces.
To claim that a force f = m*g axiomatically implies that "there were virtually "no structural components below it"", your axiom actually defines "no part of the building could exert a force on the NW corner". This seems very obviously untrue, and you must prove that - therefore your claim cannot be axiomatic.
 
C7 wrote, "The engineers told you that columns only lose a little of their resisting ability at first."

Just a piece of history here in case people missed it: a few months ago I joined a structural engineering chat room and asked some detailed questions about the collapses of buildings after initiation, including the question, "how much resistance remains in a buckling column?"

At first I got an answer that in the beginning of the buckling, there is still significant resistance. Then someone asked, why am I so interested in the collapse of buildings AFTER initiation? I told them I was a journalist researching Building 7 on 9/11 and near-freefall collapse, which some people said was evidence of controlled demolition. I was immediately booted off the chat room and my question was never fully answered. I had started asking, is there a way to calculate how quickly the resistance of a buckling column goes from near 100% to near 0%? No answer was forthcoming.

Whenever C7 reminds me over and over again that engineers on the Q&A chat room told me that at first buckling columns retain most of their strength, he neglects to mention that my followup question was never dealt with. I was kicked off. It remains an open question for me.
 
You're guessing.
Correct.

You're guessing wrong.
Not necessarily. You're guessing I'm wrong. Might be. Might not.

Giving something a name (like "halo") doesn't explain the cause.
Haloing and ringing are two well known video artefact types, caused by all sorts of optical, electrical and processing side effects.

I'm pretty sure that your assertion about compression is wrong. Entirely the wrong kind of artefact.

There is no "bouncing". The transitions in the image are monotonic.
Ringing doesn't have one single effect. It can be more or less pronounced.

The artefact you are querying is a thickening of a light-dark boundary, which certainly lies in the bounds of a ringing type artefact...but it might not be.

Could be a number of other things. Poor contrast handling could be one of them.

Your explanation that nonexistent bouncing could occur anywhere in electronics or cables explains nothing.
To you perhaps, though that is not entirely unsurprising.

The signal from the camera has been passed through a multitude of equipment before being broadcast, including, very clearly, a video titling and overlay system. Very likely also a swathe of analogue video hardware too, given the year.

It is not related to any analog CRT beam spot control.
Such effects are not caused solely by CRT beams. Even a piece of wire can introduce interference.

Latching onto the simplest description of an effect simply highlights your unfamiliarity with such things.

If it were somehow related to a crt transition, or any of the analog ringing effects that you allude to, then you'd see the effect on vertical lines in the image and not horizontal lines, since there are no transitions on horizontal borders for a horizontally moving beam.
Again, it's not limited to scanning. Ringing in particular is an entire class of artefact, with similar distortion caused by a multitude of different interference sources. Or even quite different end-result distortions. Optical distortion alone is almost infinitely complex and subtle.

I believe that this still unexplained effect is somehow related to a 2 dimensional spatial filter in which there are negative coefficients attached to intensities values of nearby pixels.
You thought it was a compression artefact earlier.

I don't know the exact cause of course, but at least you've stopped thinking someone drew it on there ;)

It's pretty awful footage. It is what it is. An awful lot of footage taken on that day has all manner of colour balance and other "strange" effects, possibly caused by the fact that a lot of video routing went through WTC1. Some will have been rerouted, some will have been cobbled together through inappropriate hardware. (But again, not drawn on, or compression artefact imnsho ;) )
 
C7 wrote, "The engineers told you that columns only lose a little of their resisting ability at first."

Just a piece of history here in case people missed it: a few months ago I joined a structural engineering chat room and asked some detailed questions about the collapses of buildings after initiation, including the question, "how much resistance remains in a buckling column?"

At first I got an answer that in the beginning of the buckling, there is still significant resistance. Then someone asked, why am I so interested in the collapse of buildings AFTER initiation? I told them I was a journalist researching Building 7 on 9/11 and near-freefall collapse, which some people said was evidence of controlled demolition. I was immediately booted off the chat room and my question was never fully answered. I had started asking, is there a way to calculate how quickly the resistance of a buckling column goes from near 100% to near 0%? No answer was forthcoming.

Whenever C7 reminds me over and over again that engineers on the Q&A chat room told me that at first buckling columns retain most of their strength, he neglects to mention that my followup question was never dealt with. I was kicked off. It remains an open question for me.

NIST, Chandler's, femr2's acceleration/velocity charts all show a first period of less than FFA as the north wall collapse begins and the columns resist and buckle at a small angle, then a second period of FFA as the columns splices fail and wall falls unsupported, then a third period of less than FFA as the columns encounter resistance from the piled debris.

The penthouses and interior have globally collapsed. There's no reason why after the north wall collapses at less than FFA, the explosives would be set off at all perimeter columns, or why no blasts were heard.

Here's a picture of WTC7 showing per above; perimeter columns buckle at a small angle and failure at the splices. top columns fall.
(sorry I don't know how to resize the picture smaller)
b7_debris1.jpg
 
When debating, there are certain techniques that are often not allowed by debate moderators because they bypass the chain of logical argument in the creation of a credible case. In the absence of a monitor, we can "call" each other when one side uses one of these "propaganda techniques". Here are some important logical issues to be aware of on both sides of the argument:

Extraordinary Claims Require Extraordinary Evidence: --Carl Sagan. Richard Gage's extraordinary claim is that the WTC buildings were brought down on 9/11 by secret controlled demolition. A high bar of a reasoned counter claim consisting of sound logical argument based on objective evidence is required to back an extraordinary claim. This is the standard I am holding Gage to, and I do not believe he has succeeded.

Innuendo Pointing to Falsehood: Also argument from suspicion. The attempt to foment suspicion and claim that the "unanswered" questions they have point to willful acts of coverup, commission of treason, etc. A clear charge might be considered libelous; in the absence of proof there is a resort to innuendo. This obfuscates the truth instead of serving it. A good example is the claim that the Bush family had a stake in the Ace Elevator Company, which was doing elevator maintenance work on the towers prior to 9/11. To my knowledge, no one has ever directly accused George W. using the "elevator repair ruse" to plant explosives. The innuendo is left there for people to come to their own conclusion but no furthere evidence of direct White House collusion with this elevator company is ever offerred.

Reversal of Burden of Proof; Requiring Proving a Negative: When 9/11 CD advocates use innuendo as proof of controlled demoliton, the next step is to try to place the burden of proof on their opponent: "you prove that I'm wrong!" A classic example of this was in my debate with Richard Gage, where he said, "My opponent must explain [several phenomena such as iron-rich spheres, molten steel etc.] or the debate is over." In my debate and in the YouTube videos, I set out to do just that, voluntarily accepting the burden of proof, but Richard Gage offerred innuendo as proof when the burden of proof belonged to him, since he has made the extraordinary claim of controlled demoltion. Another related tactic is to demand that I prove a negative: "prove that there isn't thermite in the dust! Prove that the buildings weren't brought down by controlled demolition!" Proving a negative is impossible. If you say I am a government spy, how can I prove I am not?

"Never Before" Canard: NIST, Richard Gage and I agree that the 9/11 catastrophe is without precedent, but the fact that something has never happened before is not evidence that it couldn't have happened. No large ocean liner exactly like The Titanic has ever sunk either. And as I point out in one of my videos, there are several conspiracy theories and even a hefty book claiming that the Titanic never did sink, that is was a massive insurance fraud, that the ship continued to secretly ply the waters of the world for decades! (If you don't believe me, google "conspiracy theories Titanic")

Strawman Argument: If NIST or I or any other natural collapse advocate makes an argument in our favor, it's important that the response to that argument meet it head-on and not present a different version of the opponent's argument (we all must be held to this standard). A strawman is a "watered down" parody of the original claim - weakend to make it easier to rebut. The reader must be sure that each opposing argument is being fairly summarized and not "watered down" before considering the merits of the rebuttal.

Ad hominem attack:
My opponent is not an MIT professor so nothing he says has any merit. My opponent has ties to the CIA (or the government) so of course he's lying. My opponent is not a physicist and he made a mistake so nothing he says can be taken seriously, and we should not cast our pearls before swine (the "Pearls Before Swine" YouTube attack video against me by David Chandler is classic ad hominem). Similarly, ad hominem attacks against "twoofers" are a form of entertainment on the JREF 9/11 threads (but the 9/11 Truth assertions are also thoroughly rebutted).. Ad hominem is an attack against an individual, an attempt to demolish their credibility by ascribing dark motives, ties to evil institutions, insanity, stupidity or general incompetence to them so their arguments need no reply.

Irrelevant: Sometimes a true statement can be made which is not relevant to the issue. It is often presented in a manner that implies that it adds to the counter argument. An example: In reason 9 in chrismohr911.com, I refer to some relatively minor structural damage below the crash site (doors that couldn't open any more, etc.). When I was "called" on this, I agreed that minor structural damage below the crash site was irrelevant to the cause and process of the WTC Towers' collapses. With zero structural damage below the crash site, the result would have been about the same.

False Comparison: Comparing the WTC Towers to high-rises that did NOT fail in fires, or for that matter my comparison of the global collapse of the WTC Buildings with the partial collapse at Delft, must be done carefully to avoid false comparisons. Both sides will bring in comparable examples to make their point, and both sides will accuse the other of false comparison. Whenever either side is bringing forth a comparison, the differences between 9/11 and the event comparison should also be admitted to so that a fair judgment can be made as to what the comparison can actually demonstrate.

Unsupported Conjecture: Also appeal to magic.
A statement like "The CIA and the military have huge budgets and state of the art technology so their seccret weapons can have properties that no one else's has" is impossible to respond to. I can only respond to what we know about the properties of thermitic materials, for example. No one has EVER produced a quiet explosive that can hurl multi-ton hunks of steel 600 feet away. To conjecture that the US military has somehow done something that would be otherwise impossible is a belief, not a scientific argument.

Argument from Incredulity: I can't believe it, or it doesn't look to be so, therefore it can't be so. Incredulity is a "common-sense" impulse and both sides of the argument have it. For example, my initial response to the CD theory was nah, they couldn't pull off a secret demolition of all three of those buildings. I could just reject such a claim outright based on my own incredulity, or I could actually look at the arguments in favor of it being possible. When I looked at the 9/11 CD arguments, however, I got a mishmash of wildly contradictory hypotheses. Three or four people could have done it. Thousands of people were in on it. They painted the beams with thermite. The planted shaped charges. They cowed everyone into silence. Each hypothesis was easily refuted. On the 9/11 Truth side, the argument from incredulity can be stated as, "How could three buildings fall down so fast in a single day? Where's the resistance to the collapse?" These arguments by themselves prove nothing; they have to look very carefully at the NIST Report and other scientific papers, talk to scientists personally, etc. before concluding that their incredulity is valid. It is the reasoned arguments based on objective data, not the initial incredulity, that carries weight in this debate.


False Application of Common Sense: We develop common sense from experience in day-to-day matters. Common sense does not apply to the collapse of skyscrapers, which is not something we experience in our day to day lives; we must rely on scientific research to determine what happened. Common sense tells me that if I see a dog with its fangs bared, barking menacingly and raising its hackles, I am in danger of being bitten and should back away slowly. This is based on experience, direct or indirect, and is a part of the normal life experience of people living in neighborhoods where dogs share our common space. Common sense tells me nothing about the behavior of light particles in a gravitational field; that requires that I study Einstein's theories. Similarly, I have no database of commonly held experiences to draw from when I witness the collapse of three skyscrapers in a single day.

False Global Claim: the NIST report says that perimeter collapse started the initiation stage for the Twin towers. NIST is wrong - it was core first. Therefore all NIST material is totally wrong. A related example: claiming that any detail applies everywhere without regard for either relevance or significance. For example the above conflict between "core led" and "perimeter led' does not change the NIST claim that "initiation" had a stage where the "top block" started to fall. The core vs perimeter conflict does not change the next higher level - whether core led or perimeter the top block still fell. So it is irrelevant (until someone shows it is relevant). The "default " is "irrelevant until shown relevant".

Socio-political claims: People who believe in shadow governments are more likely to embrace the 9/11 controlled demolition theory; patriotic Americans are more likely to reject them. I have chosen to separate socio-political arguments into a different category and focus almost exclusively on the technical aspects of the 9/11 CD theory. Even if a secret government were proven, this is not proof of the technical CD claims of Richard Gage (and Gage agrees with me on this point). Nevertheless, I have reluctantly ventured into this realm a little bit to at least offer some challenging questions to 9/11 Truth advocates.

Argument from Authority: The fact that someone is not a specialist in the field they are discussing does not negate what they say. A 26 year old patent clerk named Albert Einstein came up with the relativity theory, after all. Nevertheless, expert testimony carries more weight than that of nonexperts. See my "hierarchay of credibility" for information I receive re 9/11 controlled demolistion vs natural collapse.

Thanks for consolidating all those lies,
I'll still just believe my eyes.
 
Thanks for consolidating all those lies,
I'll still just believe my eyes.

What your eyes can't see does not exist? Like
  • UV light
  • nitrogen
  • the core of the earth
  • radioactivity
  • your brain
  • viruses
  • or, perhaps, what goes on behind the outer shell of a collapsing building?
[SNIP]
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NIST, Chandler's, femr2's acceleration/velocity charts all show a first period of less than FFA as the north wall collapse begins and the columns resist and buckle at a small angle, then a second period of FFA as the columns splices fail and wall falls unsupported, then a third period of less than FFA as the columns encounter resistance from the piled debris.

The penthouses and interior have globally collapsed. There's no reason why after the north wall collapses at less than FFA, the explosives would be set off at all perimeter columns, or why no blasts were heard.

Here's a picture of WTC7 showing per above; perimeter columns buckle at a small angle and failure at the splices. top columns fall.
(sorry I don't know how to resize the picture smaller)
[qimg]http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/photos/docs/verizon/b7_debris1.jpg[/qimg]

Can someone tell me how those columns could have been sheared so evenly?
Scythe?
 
Can someone tell me how those columns could have been sheared so evenly?
Scythe?

Normally, the 600 foot columns would have been installed, but the contractor discovered his trucks couldn’t make the corner at Katz’s Deli.
So yes, scythe.
Lucky guess.
 
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