Scientology abandoned by Hubbard's granddaughter & Miscavige's father

[AgeGap]

Irony meters at the ready.

Creepy, maybe even evil L. Rupert Murdock calls scientology "creepy, maybe even evil" on twitter.

Tom Cruise's publicist has asked that his privacy be respected at this time. What do Scientologists know about respecting pivacy.

 

[thaiboxerken]

Maybe they were upset because, after all of those years, they were still not Clear about the point of Scientology.

 

[Tricky]

Well played kate, I wonder if we will see tom implode.

Rumor has it that all of the couches in his enclave are broken.

 

[Orphia Nay]

More bad news for Miscavige:

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2012/07/scientology_dani_lemberger.php

an entire mission has announced that it is defecting from the church en masse.

Israel's Dror Center, in Haifa, announced in a lengthy statement that it is rejecting the leadership of David Miscavige and the official church. It now plans to become a part of the burgeoning "independent Scientology" movement.

 

[Hercules Rockefeller]

I'm still shocked that a church that has an "Office of Special Affairs" and "Church Operatives" can behave so badly. Shocked I tell you.

 

[truethat]

A lot of Scientologists are fleeing Miscaviage, not the teachings of Scientology, he basically runs it like a Mob boss and people have been intimidated for years. The more people speak out the more Miscaviage should step down. But since he won't they will probably start a new branch.

 

[ddt]

A lot of Scientologists are fleeing Miscaviage, not the teachings of Scientology, he basically runs it like a Mob boss and people have been intimidated for years. The more people speak out the more Miscaviage should step down. But since he won't they will probably start a new branch.

They already do, sort of: the Free Zone.

 

[Justinian2]

They already do, sort of: the Free Zone.

There are two types of ex-scientologists.
1) Those that believe in Hubbard's teachings.
2) Those that don't.

Both types exist in the Freezone. Most Freezoners believe in the teaching of LRH. Some Freezoners enjoy the services, but choose to ignore LRH. They say something like this: "I don't like Scientology, but I want to buy more auditing and training anyway"

Most of the objectionable parts of Scientology have been removed by Freezone practitioners. Most Scientologists that have left the Church of Scientology really like the Freezone and get gains consistent with the fees.

It's hard to label things anyway. I believe in democracy, but not the type we practice. I believe in capitalism, but not the type we practice. I believe in the free market, but not our type. I believe conservatives and liberals are inaccurate descriptions. I don't believe in Republicans or Democrats. I believe in justice, but not our type. I believe in Scientology, but not the type the church practices.

 

[hgc]

Most of the objectionable parts of Scientology have been removed by Freezone practitioners. Most Scientologists that have left the Church of Scientology really like the Freezone and get gains consistent with the fees.

I have trouble believing that most Scientologists who have left the church really like the Freezone -- unless you mean those who have left, but continue to believe in Scn in some way.

 

[Darth Rotor]

JREF is slipping. Where is the punch line "Splitters!" for this topic? Posts 24 to 26 were the perfect set up for that one.

Are you all feeling well?

Also, in re the OP: BFD. Many a preacher's son or daughter leaves the religion he or she grew up with.

PPS: is FredCarr one of the splitters, or is he hanging with the orthodoxy?

Fred, you still around?

 

[Orphia Nay]

Miscavige?

 

[NewtonTrino]

I believe in Scientology, but not the type the church practices.

Can you explain what you find compelling about it? Have you been indoctrinated by the church at some point in your life is did you read dianetics and go "This is it!!!"?

 

[Christian Klippel]

Most Scientologists that have left the Church of Scientology really like the Freezone and get gains consistent with the fees.

That Freezone stuff costs nothing?

 

[hgc]

That Freezone stuff costs nothing?

touché

 

[tsig]

That Freezone stuff costs nothing?

Well you get what you pay for.

 

[Skeptic Guy]

What you pay for. A few years ago a colleague of mine at a company I worked for claimed he was looking for something spiritual and started getting into Scientology. He went to a couple of services and some of his Co$ friends took to picking him up at work to go to these services.

At that point, I sat him down and really explained what the Co$ was all about, that it was started as a way for LRH to get rich real quick, and that it was a scheme to get him to spend lots of money buying their material. He didn't buy it first, but a couple of weeks later and what I can only assume was a couple of hundred dollars later, he thanked me and dropped out.

If only Tom would sit down with me for a bit.

 

[Justinian2]

Can you explain what you find compelling about it? Have you been indoctrinated by the church at some point in your life is did you read dianetics and go "This is it!!!"?

Because of the stuff described in "What is Scientology" and other reasons.

I, like a lot of people that enjoy the Freezone, don't like organizations. The Freezone isn't an organization so much as a movement.

 

[Justinian2]

My skeptism about every organization was deleted.

 

[Halfcentaur]

My skeptism about every organization was deleted.

Have you ever met an S.P.?

 

[Justinian2]

Have you ever met an S.P.?

Haven't we all?

I have noticed that most SP's have no power. Their words don't effect me.

If the SP is a judge, a politician a police officer, or a boss and they are in a position to cause me harm, then they can hurt me. Wasn't Hitler in a position where he could cause us harm?

Today, most dumb SPs will get thrown out of their organization before they cause harm. They call it sexual harassment, bullying or assault. Today people are more aware of the dumb SP.