Trayvon Martin, Vigilante Justice

[LTC8K6]

I got lost as to why this is important ?

"Flashlight on"

vs

"Flashlight on ring"


Different statements in the discovery. Both excerpts posted earlier.

As related to whether or not SPD would have known GZ was in a vehicle.

It's a keyring flashlight. If you remove the keys, the ring is still there, attached by a chain to the flashlight.

So I say the flashlight is not on the ring. They keys/key fob are on the ring.

It's probably not important.

 

[GWCarver]

So... you think that when someone says "do have any estimate" they are referring to an actual physical document of some sort?

Seriously?

Yes, seriously, he could have been asking for a document. She answered the question truthfully as asked. She said she didn't have one. He didn't specify the format of the information he was seeking, he just asked if she had it. She said no, she didn't have it.

He bungled the question. Maybe that is why Corey got herself a new ADA.

 

[LTC8K6]

That order revoking bond is very scary for GZ, imo.

It's the most worrying thing I have seen yet for GZ's chances of staying out of jail.

When the judge says the evidence of murder 2 is strong against you...I think you're in trouble.

When he also says you don't respect the law or the judicial process, your chances really look dim.

I think I will now throw out the idea of any dismissals before trial from this judge.

 

[Amazer]

Yes, seriously. She answered the question truthfully as asked. She said she didn't have one. He didn't specify the format of the information he was seeking, he just asked if she had it. She said no, she didn't have it.

You aren't really serious, are you? If you are then any kind of meaningful discussion with you is a pipe dream.

 

[Rare Truth]

Well, this is pretty dang strong language:

Judge Lester..."this is a serious charge for which life may be imposed; the evidence against him is strong; he has been charged with one prior crime, for which he went through a pre-trial diversion program, and has had an injunction lodged against him"

Zimmerman 'does not properly respect the law,' judge says in order revoking bond : http://articles.orlandosentinel.com...ond-decision-jailhouse-phone-george-zimmerman

The judge who revoked George Zimmerman's bond did so after he determined that it was "apparent" that Zimmerman's wife had lied under oath, and clear that Zimmerman "does not properly respect the law."
Circuit Judge Kenneth Lester revoked Zimmerman's bond on June 1, but his written order was filed Monday. In it, Lester lays out his rationale.

 

[johnny karate]

You aren't really serious, are you? If you are then any kind of meaningful discussion with you is a pipe dream.

Agreed. What a steaming pile of sophistry.

And of course, none of the Jeralyn Superfans can explain away this lie:

De la Rionda: Okay. And you mentioned also, in terms of the ability of your husband to make a bond amount, that you all had no money, is that correct?

Zimmerman: To my knowledge, that's correct.

 

[GWCarver]

You aren't really serious, are you? If you are then any kind of meaningful discussion with you is a pipe dream.

There is a phrase for what ya'll are doing, I just don't remember what it is. It involves you thinking you know what he is asking for, so even if he didn't specifically ask for it, you fill in the blanks and expect Z's wife to do the same.

What is that called?

 

[johnny karate]

Well, this is pretty dang strong language:

Judge Lester..."this is a serious charge for which life may be imposed; the evidence against him is strong; he has been charged with one prior crime, for which he went through a pre-trial diversion program, and has had an injunction lodged against him"

Zimmerman 'does not properly respect the law,' judge says in order revoking bond : http://articles.orlandosentinel.com...ond-decision-jailhouse-phone-george-zimmerman

Clearly, this judge doesn't know the law. Somebody should send him a link to Jerlayn's site so he can have it explained to him by The Smartest Lawyer in the World.

 

[Rare Truth]

Yowie Kapowie!

Lester smacked him and Lying Shellie up good.

Excerpt from Judge Lester's order....

 

[LTC8K6]

The judge does dismiss the passport issue with the footnotes, it seems.

I think GZ is now dependent on a jury to stay out of jail.

 

[johnny karate]

There is a phrase for what ya'll are doing, I just don't remember what it is. It involves you thinking you know what he is asking for, so even if he didn't specifically ask for it, you fill in the blanks and expect Z's wife to do the same.

There are no blanks to be filled in. He asked for an estimate. That he didn't specify what form that estimate should take means any estimate would suffice.

If I asked someone if they had a dog, and they said they didn't have a dog, but later it turns out they did, they can't claim not to have lied because I didn't specifically ask if they had a brown dog.

And hey, while you're dishonestly parsing words in some half-assed attempt to deny reality, what's your explanation for this lie:

De la Rionda: Okay. And you mentioned also, in terms of the ability of your husband to make a bond amount, that you all had no money, is that correct?

Zimmerman: To my knowledge, that's correct.

 

[Rare Truth]

Clearly, this judge doesn't know the law. Somebody should send him a link to Jerlayn's site so he can have it explained to him by The Smartest Lawyer in the World.

I'm guessing Her Highness, the Jerlayn, is in ababbba de abba de abbbbeddpppphhft mode right about now.

I don't know why people think she's some kind of genius. Every time I read her blog she sounds like a thin skinned wanker.

She deletes nearly anything she doesn't agree, barks at those who even dare question her authOriTEE! and her rationales are the most twisted pretzel logic I've come across in a while.

 

[Rare Truth]

...

Appeal to authority is not a fallacy in this instance, when one person is, you know, an actual authority in the law and the other is not.

Yeah. Orly Taitz is a lawyer too.

 

[LTC8K6]

I haven't seen any weak evidence against GZ, let alone any strong evidence.

I have to believe the judge has seen something I haven't, even though I can't even think of what that might be.

 

[johnny karate]

Yowie Kapowie!

Lester smacked him and Lying Shellie up good.

Excerpt from Judge Lester's order....

http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q483/trixiemay90/11.png

Hopefully, someone in this thread will beat the bushes to find some random internet legal expert to offer some rambling explanation for why the judge is wrong, because he clearly has no idea what he's talking about.

Also, North Korea.

 

[Rare Truth]

There are no blanks to be filled in. He asked for an estimate. That he didn't specify what form that estimate should take means any estimate would suffice.

If I asked someone if they had a dog, and they said they didn't have a dog, but later it turns out they did, they can't claim not to have lied because I didn't specifically ask if they had a brown dog.

And hey, while you're dishonestly parsing words in some half-assed attempt to deny reality, what's your explanation for this lie:

she just goes on and on with her lies:

O'MARA: Are you of any financial means where you could assist in those costs?

S. ZIMMERMAN: Not that I'm aware of.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1204/20/cnr.01.html

 

[Cylinder]

Order Revoking Bond

Among these factors [weighing whether bond is appropriate], the only ones that heavily weigh in [Zimmerman's] favor are that he turned himself in upon the issuance of the original warrant and has kept the authorities abreast of his current location. There are several factors that weigh against his release: that this is a serious charge for which life may be imposed; the evidence against him is strong; he has been charged with one prior crime, for which he went through a pre-trial diversion program, and has had a prior injunction against him. Most importantly, though, is the fact that he has now demonstrated that he does not properly respect the law of integrity of the judicial process. Based upon these factors, this Court finds that revocation of the bond is appropriate.

Lester's scolding aside, the court will have to grant bond at the new hearing - though probably at a substantially higher amount.

 

[johnny karate]

Order Revoking Bond

Lester's scolding aside, the court will have to grant bond at the new hearing - though probably at a substantially higher amount.

What makes you say that?

 

[Rare Truth]

 

[johnny karate]

I can't wait for the smear campaign that will surely be launched at Judge Lester.