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Romney, Obama, Rasmussen

stevea said:
Hmm - the obvious retort is "lame compared to whom" ? It think it''s sort of tragic-comedic to watch Obama attacking Romney's biz/finance experience while Obama has zilch, or attacking any Rep econo-plan (or even Simpson Bowles) after his actions failed to produce positive results. Is "Hey the economy is no worse" gonna be the 2012 Dem slogan ?
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When Obama took office unemployment was rising. Now it is declining. We were in recession and not we are expanding. The DOW was 8000 now it's 12000.

We were in one very serious hole thanks to all of that biz/finance experience of the "experts". Sorry, but the last thing we need is a business person who only knows how to sell off the assets and lay people off to increase dividends. Government isn't a business and it shouldn't be run like one.
 
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RandFan said:
When Obama took office unemployment was rising. Now it is declining. We were in recession and not we are expanding. The DOW was 8000 now it's 12000.

We were in one very serious hole thanks to all of that biz/finance experience of the "experts". Sorry, but the last thing we need is a business person who only knows how to sell off the assets and lay people off to increase dividends. Government isn't a business and it shouldn't be run like one.
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And that doesn't fit into a soundbite; But I hear that a 30-minute ad spot is being filmed to be show four times on different networks in October. No idea if it will actually be used.
 
stevea said:
It think it''s sort of tragic-comedic to watch Obama attacking Romney's biz/finance experience while Obama has zilch, or attacking any Rep econo-plan (or even Simpson Bowles) after his actions failed to produce positive results.
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What I find amusing is Obama attacking private equity company Bain Capital, which has had numerous success stories such as Staples Office Supply, Sports Authority, Domino's, Sealy, Brookstone, etc. while Obama's "public equity" has had a string of failed investments such as Solyndra. It's a weak attempt at deflection.

RandFan said:
Government isn't a business and it shouldn't be run like one.
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Wow. Simply stunning statement. How's that money tree doing in your back yard? :-) Better tend it well. What will you say when entitlements devour the budget, the crony socialism boondoggles keep mounting and the rich can't be soaked any more and the government has run out of other people's money? What will the lefties do? Ah well, since they say that you should invest when there is blood in the streets, as least we can forward to that opportunity.
 
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easycruise said:
What I find amusing is Obama attacking private equity company Bain Capital, which has had numerous success stories such as Staples Office Supply, Sports Authority, Domino's, Sealy, Brookstone, etc. while Obama's "public equity" has had a string of failed investments such as Solyndra. It's a weak attempt at deflection.

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LOL!

I look here every day for my dose of humor, and you provide it quite often.
 
easycruise said:
What I find amusing is Obama attacking private equity company Bain Capital, which has had numerous success stories such as Staples Office Supply, Sports Authority, Domino's, Sealy, Brookstone, etc. while Obama's "public equity" has had a string of failed investments such as Solyndra. It's a weak attempt at deflection.
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Domino's? The company that - on top of racking up enormous debt - was run so badly they were forced to run an ad campaign essentially saying "Hey, guys, sorry we've sucked so unbelievably hard for so long. We promise we don't suck any more"?
 
maxpower1227 said:
Domino's? The company that - on top of racking up enormous debt - was run so badly they were forced to run an ad campaign essentially saying "Hey, guys, sorry we've sucked so unbelievably hard for so long. We promise we don't suck any more"?
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And those things are red herrings anyway, designed to make you not notice that Mitt abused the federal trough for personal gain, and LOST.
 
BenBurch said:
LOL!

I look here every day for my dose of humor, and you provide it quite often.
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The inherent logic in this is that anything that happened to the companies that Bain invested in AFTER Bain left the picture is evidence of Business Acumen, while anything BAD that happened either during OR after is evidence of Attacking Free Enterprise.

It's kind of awesome, if you think about it.
 
Unabogie said:
The inherent logic in this is that anything that happened to the companies that Bain invested in AFTER Bain left the picture is evidence of Business Acumen, while anything BAD that happened either during OR after is evidence of Attacking Free Enterprise.

It's kind of awesome, if you think about it.
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I wish I could get that deal!
 
easycruise said:
Wow. Simply stunning statement. How's that money tree doing in your back yard? :-) Better tend it well. What will you say when entitlements devour the budget, the crony socialism boondoggles keep mounting and the rich can't be soaked any more and the government has run out of other people's money? What will the lefties do? Ah well, since they say that you should invest when there is blood in the streets, as least we can forward to that opportunity.
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Wow. Simply stunning straw men. Good job easy. Attack positions that people don't hold. It's not very novel and it's not valid but I suppose it's fun in it's own way.
 
Brainster said:
He's down to 53.4 at InTrade, and sinking.
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I've been saying, it's going to be squeaker. Anyone who did not see this coming hasn't been paying attention. I suspect that Romney will at some point overtake and pass Obama at least once in the coming months. Mark my words. Who will win? Given the disappointing job #'s I've got to give the advantage to Romney.
 
RandFan said:
Who will win? Given the disappointing job #'s I've got to give the advantage to Romney.
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I don't honestly see how/why the numbers will improve. Large companies are doing quite well with the current level of employees. Add in the always improving productivity and efficiency, then add it sending jobs overseas and profits can be made w/o hiring. But wait, more profits mean more R&D and more hiring. Nonsense. Without jobs and threats of losing them, people aren't going to buy a lot.

Small businesses aren't seeing sales to warrant hiring either.

Somehow this is all Obama's fault. But he's the president and will get the blame. To think that the Republican slime machine hasn't even fired up yet.
 
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DavidJames said:
I don't honestly see how/why the numbers will improve. Large companies are doing quite well with the current level of employees. Add in the always improving productivity and efficiency, then add it sending jobs overseas and profits can be made w/o hiring. But wait, more profits mean more R&D and more hiring. Nonsense. Without jobs and threats of losing them, people aren't going to buy a lot.

Small businesses aren't seeing sales to warrant hiring either.

Somehow this is all Obama's fault. But he's the president and will get the blame. To think that the Republican slime machine hasn't even fired up yet.
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And the money has yet to really even flow. In these times elections can be bought. I say can. All the money in the world would not help Gingrich. A candidate needs a good shot before the money can put them over the top. Romney has that shot.
 
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Brainster said:
He's down to 53.4 at InTrade, and sinking.
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Sinking? That implies Obama's numbers are continuing to go down, but they aren't. He took a hit on IEM as well over the weekend, though his numbers have stopped declining and have reversed a bit in the last 24 hours. I noticed the same pattern on Intrade just a few minutes ago.

The interesting thing to me is to see that his bundled poll numbers over at RCP don't seem to have shifted downwards at all. In fact, they seem to have gone up by about 0.2-0.4% in the last week, though this probably means little to nothing since that's well within the noise level.
 
MattusMaximus said:
Sinking? That implies Obama's numbers are continuing to go down, but they aren't. He took a hit on IEM as well over the weekend, though his numbers have stopped declining and have reversed a bit in the last 24 hours. I noticed the same pattern on Intrade just a few minutes ago.

The interesting thing to me is to see that his bundled poll numbers over at RCP don't seem to have shifted downwards at all. In fact, they seem to have gone up by about 0.2-0.4% in the last week, though this probably means little to nothing since that's well within the noise level.
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Barring bad news, approval ratings for almost anybody tend to float up slowly.
 
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