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JayUtah said:
His proof that you're a liar is that you agree with me. Anyone who agrees with me is, by his definition, deliberately obfuscating what he believes to be a clear, self-evident truth. Therefore by denying his "truth," you reveal yourself to be a liar.

Simple, no?
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count me in as another proud liar then.
Odd thing is that I had known that the landings are real for several decades before I had ever heard of Jay Utah. Perhaps ff88 can explain how you managed to sway me before you were even born, Jay.

eta: I was 13 in 1969
 
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jaydeehess said:
count me in as another proud liar then.
Odd thing is that I have known that the landings are real for several decades before I had ever heard of Jay Utah. Perhaps ff88 can explain how you managed to sway me before you were even born, Jay.

eta: I was 13 in 1969
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Same here. 13 going on 14.

Perhaps it's Jay's patented temporal brain washing system.
 
SUSpilot said:
Same here. 13 going on 14.

Perhaps it's Jay's patented temporal brain washing system.
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I was pretty much in the middle of being 13. (though my mother claims I was 13 going on older and wiser than her and my father. They caught up to, and passed, me in that regard within the next 7 years. :))

I admit I am going by memory. I only recall seeing a post from which I either deduced that I was significantly older than Jay, or it was spelled out in the post. It was of little significance until now as ff88 is making a point of saying that you, I, and others like us have been convinced to lie by that kid JU.
 
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I was 4 1/2, but it's one of my earliest pretty clear memories. I remember asking my dad why Neil and Buzz didn't have guns, in case the space monsters tried to get them :D
 
I was five, almost six, and it's one of my first clear memories too. Maybe Jay came to the UK and implanted the memory into my brain?

We didn't have a television at the time but we were staying with my paternal grandparents who did; I remember being woken up in the middle of the night*, being bundled up in blankets and brought into the sitting room to look at the television coverage, and being a bit bewildered by it all. My parents and grandparents were all crying and I didn't really understand why it was so momentous at the time.

*The "small step" was at 3.56 am UK time.
 
Don't know how we got on the topic of age*...anyhow, I was 14 in the summer of 69'...turning 15 in November.





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jaydeehess said:
It was of little significance until now as ff88 is making a point of saying that you, I, and others like us have been convinced to lie by that kid JU.
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Ok...I see now...
 
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I was 5. I remember being sent to bed and not allowed to watch. :(

Many years later my mum told me it was because she was worried that the landing would go wrong and she didn't want me to watch anything so traumatic. On the other hand, she also told me that after Kennedy made his go-to-the-moon speech, she was the only person in the office where she then worked who believed the Americans would manage to do it. She offered them all a bet, but nobody took her up on it.
 
I say we back off, nuke the site from orbit... It's the only way to be sure.
 
I would have been 5. My mother tells me she allowed me to stay up (I'm in the UK) but I don't remember it. I do remember watching with great interest the subsequent missions, especially the whole 'also sprach Zarathustra' bit they played and the countdown. Captivating stuff for a young boy.

A colleague at work of a similar age to me told me today his mother had saved a copy of the Manchester Guardian (now just 'The Guardian') from the day after and has promised he will bring it in to show me. Can't wait to scan it!
 
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sts60 said:
I say we back off, nuke the site from orbit... It's the only way to be sure.
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I'm told this quote is actually part of the culture at Digital Domain, the visual-effects company founded by James Cameron and at which many of my schoolmates now work. It's used when the speaker wants to admonish someone to do it way right way, rather than the quick-and-dirty or most expedient way.

Bob: I was just going to post-process those frames to simulate jittered light-source sampling.
Ted: No, you'd better nuke the site from orbit and re-render them. It's the only way to be sure.
 
I was 41/2, I was 5, I was 14, will you guys knock it off! I was just back from my second paid vacation in Southeast Asia… courtesy of Uncle Sam. I’ll be right back, if my walker doesn’t tip over.:)
 
I was eight (and slow) and my reaction was pretty much "I've seen more exciting movies." It didn't sink in just what I'd seen until many years later.

(In my -- partial -- defense, we were basically a non-television family. The landing was a special exception.)
 
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I was 41/2, I was 5, I was 14, will you guys knock it off! I was just back from my second paid vacation in Southeast Asia… courtesy of Uncle Sam. I’ll be right back, if my walker doesn’t tip over.:)
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Yeah, but unless I misunderstand your avatar, you got to fly one of the coolest planes ever (admittedly while flying in some very unfriendly airspace).

Closest I'll ever come is that I'm friends with the now retired Chief Test Pilot for McDonnell Aircraft who did fly it...
 
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