Ed Rob Menard's FOTL Claims

[psionl0]

http://consumerpurchasers.ca/?p=1
The ACCP has a comments blog, dont bother asking any uncomfortable questions though, they delete them
I asked why if it was legitimate wouldn't bank tellers or managers be aware of the process and why would a group of people have any more success than an individual?

Let's see how long this lasts:

 

[psionl0]

and .............. it's gone!

ETA it looks like Comments are closed.

 

[jargon buster]

We are aware that many questions attend a project of this scope, and appreciate everyone’s interest.

However the comments section is not a forum for debate, nor is it an information channel that is somehow ‘beyond’ the rest of the website. We are in the foundational stage of the project. We do not have time to engage in arguments with individuals, or to provide personal instruction on the meaning and implications of Canadian acts and regulations in these updates. They are just updates to the information presented on the website, added as events unfold.

We’re working on putting our team together and getting our “ducks in a row”. When there is new information to present, it will be announced here.

Thank you for your patience and understanding.

Cheers!

Oh right, dont bother asking any questions about the validity of the scheme, just pay your money at Roberts seminar.
Oh and Menard wrote the above text, its got his trademark all over it.

 

[Paul]

oops, too late.

 

[Paul]

'Interesting' how Rob can't even remember that he's supposed to already have an executive team.

 

[jargon buster]

Opps its all change again, it used to read

SHOW TIME CONFIRMED!
Freeman Empowermentality
with MOI!
Saturday May 26th 5PM-9PM
Masonic Hall (HAHAHAHA!)
203 Cochrane Street
Whitby Ontario,
Chili Dinner and Meet and Greet 5-7PM
Show 7-9PM
Cost: $50

Then....
Sunday May 27
2PM - 6PM
Same Place
Association of Canadian Consumer Purchasers
Information and Sign up Seminar
Come meet the Executive team, see what we are all about!
Attendance is free, Membership fee is $100 ($75 for those who attended the previous nights show.)
For tickets call Marc at 905-903-7186

It now reads

Freeman Fringe: Festival of Freedom
With Guest Speaker: Robert: Menard!
Saturday May 26th 5PM-9PM
and
Sunday May 27th 1pm-4pm
Location: Masonic Hall (HAHAHAHA!)

203 Cochrane Street
Whitby Ontario,

SATURDAY’S SHOW INFORMATION:

5-7PM Chili Dinner and Meet and Greet
7-9PM Show
Cost: $50

SUNDAY’S SHOW INFORMATION:

1-2PM Meet and Greet
2-4PM Show
Cost: $50

For tickets call Marc at 905-903-7186

http://consumerpurchasers.ca/?p=350
It would appear the 'freeman enpowermentality' aspect of Roberts seminar isnt going to happen, I wonder if its because we pointed out the hypocricy in trying to be both a freeman and a 'ward of the state' at the same time.
Shame he forgot to edit the web page title as well.
I also notice a lack of a mention of a sign up fee as well.
Also the second show costs $50 as opposed to free.

PS, Im pretty sure once the venue owners 'cotton on' to Roberts plans there will be a rather drastic amendment to the shows.

 

[LightinDarkness]

I have good news and bad news. The bad news is I stayed up past my bed time (wheeee working nights) to give the Rob's meeting venue - the Masonic lodge - a call and either something is wrong with my cellphone or I can't call Canada. I am not sure which, I dial and it just rings. I suspect the problem is on my end as surely even if someone isn't there, there should be a voicemail or something.

On the good news side, a fellow mason - who is actually Canadian - has been in touch and told me that hes emailed the lodge secretaries for the lodges that meet there and plans to escalate as required until someone notices. The wheels of masonic bureaucracy move slowly, but we may yet get a result out of this. I'd love to name and praise this person but as he has not posted that he has done so on this thread I will withhold the name.

 

[Horatius]

On the good news side, a fellow mason - who is actually Canadian - has been in touch and told me that hes emailed the lodge secretaries for the lodges that meet there and plans to escalate as required until someone notices. The wheels of masonic bureaucracy move slowly, but we may yet get a result out of this. I'd love to name and praise this person but as he has not posted that he has done so on this thread I will withhold the name.

Wait - did you just admit to a Masonic Conspiracy?!??



Don't they take away your membership card for things like that?

 

[Mojo]

Wait - did you just admit to a Masonic Conspiracy?!??



Don't they take away your membership card for things like that?

He will probably have his figgin placed upon a spike.

 

[fitzgibbon]

Wait - did you just admit to a Masonic Conspiracy?!??

Don't they take away your membership card for things like that?

As long as nobody gets sunk in the middle of the Niagara River leading to a groundswell creation of a third political party in the States, it's all good.

Fitz

p.s. Hmmm.....on second thought.....

 

[ComfySlippers]

...
All Menards previous nonsense carried a disclaimer (for entertainment purposes only) the ACCP site doesn't as yet, Im pretty sure it will at some point though.

The disclaimer is in the introduction video:

/paraphrasing

If you think this is a scam, don't discuss it with anyone and don't pay me

/paraphrasing

It's also hinted at, in a Menardian way, in the comments section:

1) A bank teller (or even most bank managers) will not know what to do.
2) No one has to join us or give us any money. The appropriate acts on this are available at the government of Canada website and anyone is free to use the information, now, today. Please see the page How Is This Legal. However, as the video explains, good luck trying to make it stick by yourself.

I'm pretty sure that as soon as he has worked out how to word a disclaimer without debunking his latest scam it will appear on the website.
---

An interesting turn of events I seem to have missed.
I particularly liked:

I would reply to you however, I can't trust that you wouldn't post it. Plus I'm very upset that my last name is on the forum as I have an ex boyfriend who would love to know where I live, so now my safety is jeopardized and now I have to move. So thanks for that.

Why Tracy thinks her ex boyfriend would be reading this thread or, even more unbelievably, that he would stumble upon the ACCP crapsite is beyond me.

 

[fitzgibbon]

Why Tracy thinks her ex boyfriend would be reading this thread or, even more unbelievably, that he would stumble upon the ACCP crapsite is beyond me.

Pattern of previous behaviour?

Just sayin'

Fitz

 

[LashL]

This appears to be Tracey's blog:

http://stepstobeingfree.blogspot.ca/2011_12_01_archive.html

Full-on FOTL woo from start to finish.

 

[Hans]

This appears to be Tracey's blog:

http://stepstobeingfree.blogspot.ca/2011_12_01_archive.html

Full-on FOTL woo from start to finish.

Seems more like Menard in drag. He wouldn't create a fictious person to spout his stuff would he? Or is this person real?

 

[fitzgibbon]

This appears to be Tracey's blog:

http://stepstobeingfree.blogspot.ca/2011_12_01_archive.html

Full-on FOTL woo from start to finish.

Quel surprise. It's not as if fezzes are this season's de rigeur fashion accessory.

Fitz

 

[BazBear]

Seems more like Menard in drag. He wouldn't create a fictious person to spout his stuff would he? Or is this person real?

She has another blog about the Canadian Job Bank website being down for while back in February. As she says she is looking for a real job, I think she's probably real. That's not to say her FTOL woo couldn't be Rob's fine work.

 

[ComfySlippers]

This appears to be Tracey's blog:

http://stepstobeingfree.blogspot.ca/2011_12_01_archive.html

Full-on FOTL woo from start to finish.

If you start every paragraph with the word "Whereas" it must be true!

If Tracy were real I suggest BoBBy would have moved in with him/her by now.
A ready-made FOTL-Waffle numpty. His ideal woman. Until he leaves her with the debts. If she even exists. (Debbie-Gate?)

Pattern of previous behaviour?

Just sayin'

Fitz

Assuming 'Tracy' lives in Canada I would offer this:
Americans and Canadians have a much easier time of tracking people down than citizens of my country do.
Saying that, I am still able to find a lot out about people without breaching my country's laws concerning privacy etc.
I'm quite sure that if the Tracy had an ex-boyfriend/stalker he would already know her address and phone number.

It's just more scammy crap.

ETA:
In the first Blog linked to I see a PayPal "Donate" button, (shock, horror!).
The account-holder's ID is The Sovereign Citizen
So if it's not actually our favourite ex-resident clown it is certainly a very messed-up individual.

ETA2:

I was looking at the restyled WFS site and noticed this banner.
Original Link from Bobby's Sales Page on WFS

Just to remind, Bobby is no longer allowed to represent people in Court, or to pretend to be a lawyer or to sell pretend legal advice.

(Post made on Quatloos in 2008 concerning United States of America v. [Marc Scott] Emery a/k/a "The Prince of Pot" (British Columbia Supreme Ct, Aug. 17, 2005) 2005 BCSC 1192).

The extradition judge, Hon. Justice S. R. Romilly, very patiently analyzed Menard's pleadings as if he took them seriously -- Canadian courts are considerably more tolerant of nuts than US courts -- and determined after extensive citation of legal authorities that Menard did not fall into the very narrow criteria to be an intervenor in an extradition case, so his application to intervene was dismissed.

ETA3
The biggest problem with being a habitual liar is that you forget your own lies:
From 2009

Additionally, as far as these concept go, one of us has been adopted into a Whanui by the Maori. That would be me. I can retire there anytime and they have land for me and everything. I am Maori because of the knowledge I shared. Down there they have used the claim of right process to reclaim thousands of acres of land, free their families from statutory regulation and tell the court and government to take a hike. One young man with a family was facing nine months in jail had a judge reverse his order, kept his house he had built on crown land, and then thousands of Maori served their claims and are now living free of all government control.

Know what? Regardless of what you naysayers say, I have the benefit of knowing that literally tens of thousands of people have used the things I teach to create better realities for themselves, and they know it too, and I will retire to NZ as a brother of many, because of that.

Peace eh?
Rob

...I am rich beyond anything I had ever expected, and what I consider riches, cannot be taxed away, taken, regulated or devalued, except by myself.

Allow me to ask: did Jesus have a wallet and bank account? And if not should his teachings be discounted because he didn't?

Peace eh?
Rob

 

[Bishop]

Menard claimed that to have joined a Maori family?

Wow. I don't even know what to say to that one.

 

[tsig]

Seems more like Menard in drag. He wouldn't create a fictious person to spout his stuff would he? Or is this person real?

Among the whereases.

Whereas it is my understanding that a Notary Public can also be used to bring criminal charges to bear against traitors, even if they hold the highest office

The sovereignty of the notary public.

 

[D'rok]

Additionally, as far as these concept go, one of us has been adopted into a Whanui by the Maori. That would be me. I can retire there anytime and they have land for me and everything.