Merged 9/11 No Plane/Energy Weapon discussion thread

[WTC Dust]

Twoofers never admit to being wrong.

Upon recieving correct information, you changed your position to incorporate the new knowledge.

Except me. I admitted I was wrong about one of the aspects of the airplane crashing into the Empire State Building. Whew! You won't be hearing me make that mistake anymore! Thanks, JREF!

 

[WTC Dust]

No, there aren't.

Name a single weapon that uses electromagnetism, and remember taser isn't a correct answer.

Wrong. Electricity and magnetism are intrinsically related.

 

[WTC Dust]

..and what is that maximum temperature?

You can't look in a book by yourself to discover this value? Just call it 3000 degrees Farenheit and work from there.

 

[NoahFence]

Orbiting? I don't think Jammonius supports this idea. I know I don't, and we already know Judy Wood doesn't.

Listen dusty - it is physically impossible to have a weapon do that the trade towers, and not be in orbit.

 

[NoahFence]

They have a blast furnace there? Pretty interesting. It proves you can't melt or significantly weaken steel with an open air carbon fire, doesn't it?

So "open air" to you is "inside a building"?

THAT'S open air? Why am I not surprised....

 

[WTC Dust]

How do you know this smell was not from a carbon based source?


BTW: Humans are carbon based.

At least one of the early smells was carbon based, but that went away after only a few days. The months-long smell had a different quality to it.

 

[MarkCorrigan]

Wrong. Electricity and magnetism are intrinsically related.

Are you sure you're a scientist?

A taser uses electrodes transmitting direct current, not electromagnets. Any electricity creates a magnetic field but not all electricity is electromagnetic.

I stopped physics aged 16 and I know that.

 

[dafydd]

http://www.debunking911.com/ironburns.htm

 

[WTC Dust]

Are you claiming this is not enough to weaken steel?

No. "Significantly" weaken steel, as was seen on 9/11. Carbon fires can't do that.

 

[dafydd]

Are you sure you're a scientist?

I am beginning to doubt that she is a scientist. I could be wrong, I may change my mind if she shows signs of applying the scientific method.

 

[WTC Dust]

Are you sure you're a scientist?

A taser uses electrodes transmitting direct current, not electromagnets. Any electricity creates a magnetic field but not all electricity is electromagnetic.

I stopped physics aged 16 and I know that.

Maybe it's because you stopped physics at 16 that you think that. Hey, it's not my task to educate you. You have to do that yourself. Find out more about electricity and magnetism before you make yourself look stubborn.

 

[dafydd]

No. "Significantly" weaken steel, as was seen on 9/11. Carbon fires can't do that.

Where did you study metallurgy and what are your qualifications?

 

[DGM]

They have a blast furnace there? Pretty interesting. It proves you can't melt or significantly weaken steel with an open air carbon fire, doesn't it?

Nope.

All working of iron after production was done in open hearths.

 

[dafydd]

Find out more about electricity and magnetism before you make yourself look stubborn.

I suggest that you do the same.

 

[dafydd]

This thread is pointless. No more responses to the attention seeker from me.

 

[WTC Dust]

You mean like the pictures in this thread that you've continually ignored?

But I don't need pictures. Millions of people witnessed the impact with their own eyes. What was that, a mass hallucination?

I think it was a projected image of a plane. I don't know this. But I think it.

 

[Macgyver1968]

You can't look in a book by yourself to discover this value? Just call it 3000 degrees Farenheit and work from there.

You were the one claiming that carbon fires have a maximum temperature..I just assumed you knew what that was. Silly me.

Charcoal is almost exclusively made of carbon:

Metallurgical fuel

Charcoal burns at intense temperatures, up to 2700 degrees Celsius.

That's 4892F...which is slightly higher than your guess of 3000.

By the way...Steel loses 80% of it's strength at 1000F.

 

[DGM]

At least one of the early smells was carbon based, but that went away after only a few days. The months-long smell had a different quality to it.

What "quality" would that be? Is it a special non-carbon only your nose can detect?

No. "Significantly" weaken steel, as was seen on 9/11. Carbon fires can't do that.

Exactly how much is "significant"? You know structural engineers don't agree with you on this?

 

[MarkCorrigan]

Maybe it's because you stopped physics at 16 that you think that. Hey, it's not my task to educate you. You have to do that yourself. Find out more about electricity and magnetism before you make yourself look stubborn.

You know someone pointed out that you're wrong earlier and you just kind of ignored it right?

I know you're just pulling stuff from your posterior to try to defend yourself and ignoring or hand-waving questions that you don't like, I'm not trying to educate you. I'm just seeing how far you're willing to push this nonsense.

 

[Cl1mh4224rd]

What does "dustified" steel, concrete, furniture, office supplies, etc. smell like anyway?