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Obama to Apologize for the Osama bin Laden Hit

JoeTheJuggler said:
That's a different claim.

Do you think U.S. citizens should cast their vote for the POTUS based on what you think perception from "the Arabs" is?
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I don't know. But I think I should ignore that question since It does not have anything really to do with what I have said.

I don't freaking care who anyone votes for. THe USA sucks and it can all burst into flames for all I care.

Do you take your vote seriously this time around? We are like the condemmed on death row picking electrocution or lethal injection.
 
joobie said:
my sources say that he also confessed to being responsible for the zimmerman telegram and the dreyfus affair, but that he will skate on those because of a technicality.
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I think if torture really was not involved, we would not even be discussing it here and now.
 
Bill Thompson said:
But I think I should ignore that question since It does not have anything really to do with what I have said.

I don't freaking care who anyone votes for. THe USA sucks and it can all burst into flames for all I care.
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Do you realize that you're posting in the U.S.A. Politics subforum?

If you don't care about U.S. politics, why did you bother starting a thread that tells a lie about Obama during the presidential campaign?
 
Bill Thompson said:
I think if torture really was not involved, we would not even be discussing it here and now.
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Because evidence doesn't matter to an ideologue. I can't force you to look at the facts Bill but I can post them to show that your position is bankrupt.

Top Interrogation Experts Agree: Torture Doesn't Work.

Apologists for torture say that it was a "necessarily evil" to stop future terror attacks.
However, the top interrogation experts all say torture that doesn't work:


  • Army Field Manual 34-52 Chapter 1 says:
    "Experience indicates that the use of force is not necessary to gain the cooperation of sources for interrogation. Therefore, the use of force is a poor technique, as it yields unreliable results, may damage subsequent collection efforts, and can induce the source to say whatever he thinks the interrogator wants to hear."​
A declassified FBI e-mail dated May 10, 2004, regarding interrogation at Guantanamo states "[we] explained to [the Department of Defense], FBI has been successful for many years obtaining confessions via non-confrontational interviewing techniques." (see also this)
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Bill Thompson said:
I don't know. But I think I should ignore that question since It does not have anything really to do with what I have said.

I don't freaking care who anyone votes for. THe USA sucks and it can all burst into flames for all I care.
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I see your location is Redmond, Washington. Do you think that the USA can "burst into flames" without it affecting you?

Bill Thompson said:
Do you take your vote seriously this time around? We are like the condemmed on death row picking electrocution or lethal injection.
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Yes, I take my vote seriously this time around. No, we are not like inmates on death row. However, yours is a great attitude to have if you wish to excuse yourself from any social responsibility.
 
Claiming to despise all US politics, he complains only about one flavor but declares he doesn't care.
 
sackett said:
Don't listen to them, Bill. My sources can kick their sources' ass.
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Not only that, my sources can kick their sources, and the horse they rode in on!

That's right: My sources can kick their sources' horse's ass!
 
Bill Thompson said:
I don't know. But I think I should ignore that question since It does not have anything really to do with what I have said.

I don't freaking care who anyone votes for. THe USA sucks and it can all burst into flames for all I care.

Do you take your vote seriously this time around? We are like the condemmed on death row picking electrocution or lethal injection.
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The dearth of evidence, weird mini-rants, and your opaque posting style lead me to think that you lack a fundamental grasp of skepticism and critical thinking. (I'm not meaning to shine a special light on the above post. All of your posts have informed my opinion.)

I suggest you incorporate "For instance..." into your repertoire (along with links to reputable sources of course).
 
Bill Thompson said:
The location of Osama bin Laden was determined by following a specific message courier. The name of that specific courier was obtained by the means of torture. A central talking point of Liberals and the Democratic party is that torture does not work and is incontrovertibly immoral. Do the ends justify the means? Just as, in an American court of law, evidence and results obtained by illegal means are thrown out, shouldn't Obama have decided not to kill Osama bin Laden? Doesn't Al Qaeda deserve an apology? Obama is quick to apologize, whither it is justified and warranted or not, so shouldn't we all expect him to apologize for this?
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I just read the Internet, and I heard that none of this is true.
 
sackett said:
Starting with the ass, right? Hah! You thought I wouldn't see that coming!
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I feel this strange need to use the phrase "horse's ass" in a Bill Thompson thread. Why would that be? Can anyone think of a reason?
 
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