Merged 9/11 No Plane/Energy Weapon discussion thread

[WTC Dust]

Fetzer admits he was an alcoholic, and I made certain to point out that the child molestation accusations were just a rumor. However, he has had conflicts with his daughter, so you have to wonder what that was all about.

Dust (hilarious nick for those of us that understands Norwegian!); Its very hard to believe and rely on someone that slanders opponents as a line of argument. You are upset with anyone that does not respect Wood, but you dont really respect anyone that calls you out on your crazy, unsubstantiated ideas. If you did, you would not call anyone a child molester and an alcoholic for the sake of "argument". But I guess double standards are better than "just" standard in your world....

http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2011/12/occupy-wall-street-protestor-who-got.html

 

[WTC Dust]

Not all evidence is equal in value. Some things that were widely believed to be true are not true.

Facts...we need facts, gotta have the facts. Ms Blevins & any of the other deluded ones go about this discussion by ignoring the facts, but why do that? Why is it so important for them to ignore facts? I just can't understand why these people believe untested, undocumented, ordinary (most likely) examples of evidence are the true samples of a dark and sinister operation and nothing else matters (Including real, actual facts).

 

[WTC Dust]

You sound like a passive person. Take charge of your own learning.

I'm just waiting for a Dr. Judy supporter to explain to me these things. I know they can't...so they will ignore me.

 

[WTC Dust]

I'm not out to convince you, and I will never take that on as a goal. I'm pointing out that if you want to do some serious debunking, that insults and disrespect destroy your own argument.

This is utterly ludicrous. Heat played no role? And you're a "no planer" too you've admitted. YOU deserve no respect. YOUR ideas are absolute idiocy. Pray tell miss doctorate in pharmacology with zero expertise in civil or structural engineering and an obvious lack of mathematical skills...why do they FIREPROOF STEEL?!?!?!

 

[WTC Dust]

I thought JREFers were the best debunkers.

JREF isn't the only place, by far, that you'll find disrespect for Judy Wood. For instance read the bulk of the comments left by her students when they rated her as a Professor (From HERE)










































Some observations of Judy Wood expressed above are interesting:-

"Don't dare ask a question in class because she will laugh in your face"

"She ridicules students in class when they ask questions"

"can't understand a question and if she can, refuses to answer it"

Sound familiar?

Leopards and spots.

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[WTC Dust]

You need to be much more sophisticated than this. There are anomalous rusty bits all over the place, including the Deutsche Bank, since demolished.

This "selective rusting" is also nonsense. Anyone with half a brain stem can see why certain parts of a car will rust whilst other parts made of steel won't.

Unprotected or untreated non-corrosion resistant or non-stainless steel will rust if exposed to the atmosphere.

You have to be a complete and utter moron to believe that hurricanes can rust certain steel parts and not others given that the materials are in the same condition. Bonkers.

 

[WTC Dust]

You are not clairvoyant. Somebody at JREF needs to be notified that you are claiming to be.

Actually, the collapse of all the buildings were in fact picked up by different seismic sensors in Manhattan. Why are you not aware of this?

 

[WTC Dust]

Clear evidence of a highly energetic process that occurred at normal temperatures.

Please elaborate, what hallmarks are those?

 

[WTC Dust]

electromagnetic

What field?

 

[The Big Dog]

I'm confused, you are admitting were lying then when you said "The seismic data does not record vibrations that would be consistent with a gigantic building slamming into the ground" because you in fact knew that the collapse of all the buildings was picked up by different seismic sensors in Manhattan?

Wow. You do any investigation about insulation yet? By the way, you still working on Wall Street?

That's the problem with most people who disrespect Judy Wood. They don't actually understand what she's saying. They haven't spent the time it takes to read and understand her work. You have to read her work AND read extra references in order to understand the basics of what she's saying.

I'll summarize it here: The buildings didn't make a big BOOM when they landed.

Get it? The seismic data does not record vibrations that would be consistent with a gigantic building slamming into the ground.

See how this is very different but consistent with me finding metallic foam? Foam doesn't make a very big boom if it hits the ground.

Actually, the collapse of all the buildings were in fact picked up by different seismic sensors in Manhattan. Why are you not aware of this?

You are not clairvoyant. Somebody at JREF needs to be notified that you are claiming to be.

 

[phunk]

Clear evidence of a highly energetic process that occurred at normal temperatures.

What evidence is that?

Cold fusion has never been demonstrated, and has no theoretical basis, so how do you know what the hallmarks of cold fusion are?

ZPE is not highly energetic, it's the opposite, it's the minimum energy state of a system. So what hallmarks are you referring to there?

 

[The Big Dog]

The odd thing is that it takes extra effort to post like a douchebag.

electromagnetic

 

[Resume]

None of this is reliable evidence.

It isn't? Then what is it?

 

[Quad4_72]

The odd thing is that it takes extra effort to post like a douchebag.

Holy crap I was honestly just about to post that. You have to grab the mouse, click before the quote, hit enter, and then begin typing, all just to be "Different" at the expense of forum etiquette.

 

[phunk]

electromagnetic

You think that thunderstorms anywhere near a hurricane are caused by an electromagnetic field extending from the eye?

 

[WTC Dust]

What are you trying to say, here?

You think that thunderstorms anywhere near a hurricane are caused by an electromagnetic field extending from the eye?

 

[jammonius]

What is the subject matter of her class?

What class in particular; and, why do you ask at this point? You do not appear to have had that query in mind when you posted, what I think is, by far, one of the most glaring admissions against the interests of debunkers I have evah seen:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8253261&postcount=475

Thank you for that post. It is a keeper for sure

What I do know is that Dr. Wood is a materials engineering scientist.

Blessings

 

[phunk]

What are you trying to say, here?

Let me remind you what was said, your short term memory seems to be fuzzy.

How far from a hurricane's eye can these field effects occur?

Thunder at each of the NYC airports indicates that the field extended at least that far from the eye of Hurricane Erin.

What field?

electromagnetic

You think that thunderstorms anywhere near a hurricane are caused by an electromagnetic field extending from the eye?

You claimed that thunder near NYC was evidence that an electromagnetic field extended from the eye of hurricane erin to NYC, which is complete nonsense that shows a lack of understanding of what causes lightning.

 

[jammonius]

How do you know this?

See pg xxxi of WHERE DID THE TOWERS GO?

That reference is to the first paragraph of the Author's Preface. Dr. Wood has engaged in a forensic determination of WHAT happened to the WTC complex; not an assessment of WHO did it.

 

[jammonius]

I think you mean "in about 56 minutes and 102 minutes respectively".

No I do not. Even your NIST project defines the interval of destruction -- that they did not otherwise investigate -- as being a matter of seconds, as was seen, not minutes.