Trayvon Martin, Vigilante Justice

[KatieG]

GZ's 2005 MySpace page. Some interesting stuff there.

http://www.myspace.com/onlytobekingagain

 

[This is The End]

Spot on ? 2 ex-fiances ... and didn't you call me out about the alcohol versus anger class for the pre-trial diversion ? How is that 'spot-on' ?

Well, to be fair, the entire sentence is "spot on about how trustworthy Z should be", not that every single detail in the post was spot on. It had much more right than not.

I did later say it was accurate, and I stand by that. It was an accurate portrayal about how trustworthy Z is.

Also, I have a feeling Z probably has went through both alcohol and anger management classes before. I wouldn't doubt it, at least.

 

[KatieG]

In case anyone was wondering if the page was GZ's, MO'M confirms it was his and abandoned in 2005.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/05/0...-salvo-in.html
George Zimmerman’s Myspace: every Mexican pulled a knife
Just as George Zimmerman’s attorney pushes the envelope of accepted legal practices by launching a social media operation for his client, another site has popped up that belonged to the controversial former neighborhood watch volunteer who now faces a murder charge.
This one is a 7-year old Myspace page called “only to be king again” that makes disparaging comments about Mexicans. The Web page, which his attorney confirmed Tuesday is legitimate, makes reference to 2005 criminal cases and a brush in court with a woman who Zimmerman called his “ex-hoe.”
There are several photos of Zimmerman on the page, and in one of them he appears to be wearing the same orange polo shirt that he donned in his 2005 police mug shot. Zimmerman used the name “Joe G.” on the site, and posted a biography that mentions he grew up in Manassas, Va., had recently opened an insurance business and missed all his friends.

Zimmerman’s attorney, Mark O’Mara, confirmed the page was his client’s, and that it was abandoned in 2005.
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[Natural Born Skeptic]

I knew he hated Mexicans! The actual silliness is on the right side of the page for anyone who cares to read it (it's the same MySpace page as posted a few pages back). It actually does give some insight into him. http://www.myspace.com/onlytobekingagain

Workin 96 hours to get a decent pay check, gettin knifes pulled on you by every mexican you run into! Im down here now opened my own insurance agency, small but its mine. I put my grandma's name on it so that she could see its hers too, who knows here i would be with out her.

 

[johnny karate]

GZ's 2005 MySpace page. Some interesting stuff there.

http://www.myspace.com/onlytobekingagain

It actually provides credibility for the claim that Zimmerman did not instigate violence with Martin:

I can hit my boy up to handle a lil somethin with my sister and he's at my house with his boys on bikes before i hang up with her! They do a year and dont ever open thier mouth to get my ass pinched.

Apparently, he wouldn't commit the act of violence himself. He'd merely have one of his "boys" handle it for him.

 

[boooeee]

Try reading the whole thing for a change... "...My understanding is that there were three websites which had PayPal accounts attached to them...".

Which is exactly what I have been saying... multiple websites, with contradictory media claims as to who did what, where.

And I said that I hadn't seen any definitive proof as to which one was GZ's, since this issue first came up weeks ago... also correct, since this statement wasn't released until the the 26th of April.

So yeah, the fact that every now and then your Nancy Grace hysterical rumor-mongering turns out to match an occasional random factoid, doesn't make skepticism an invalid approach.
Dream on.

That's an interesting take on what happened. In fact, the media zeroed in pretty quickly on therealgeorgezimmerman.com being the legit website. And they were right. In contrast, here is what you have been claiming:

Getting snarky with johnny karate because he "fell for" the legitimate website:

Fell for it, did you? Even after the facts were posted?

The facts prove that the genuine website is entirely different than the one you fell for.

Spreading misinformation on what actually was depicted on the website:

Why would he put up a website with burned out black churches, Koran burning ralllies and 'Long live George Zimmerman' on it (www.therealgeorgezimmerman.com, which is the one that the media keeps honking about)?

Claiming that the media (the media that had been consistently reporting for some time that therealgeorgezimmerman.com website was legitimate) didn't know what the real website was:

The same media that assured us that Zimmerman was white, that Trayvon made his own 911 call, that issued quotes that the parties deny ever making, that gave us multiple GZ web site addresses, but didn't have clue about the real one, that promoted all sorts of misleading photos and descriptions, and so on ad nauseum.

And once again spreading misinformation about the website (there was no mention of "white people" on the website):

If there was proof provided that Zimmerman himself put up those 'white people' comments and graffiti pictures etc, I certainly missed it.

But, of course, it's the media that can't be trusted.

 

[johnny karate]

Yeah, claiming that website wasn't Zimmerman's was ridiculous then, and it's even more ridiculous now. As TheL8Elvis already pointed out, Zimmerman's current lawyer verified on an independent website (i.e. not via a media outlet) that it did in fact belong to him:

I want to take a moment to clear up some of the confusion regarding the monies raised on Mr. Zimmerman’s website. My understanding is that there were three websites which had PayPal accounts attached to them. One or two of them were run by friends of Mr. Zimmerman, and then there was the web site therealgeorgezimmerman.com , which George administered.

Short of George Zimmerman showing up at your door to confirm it personally, I'm not sure what else one would require.

 

[boooeee]

Yeah, claiming that website wasn't Zimmerman's was ridiculous then, and it's even more ridiculous now. As TheL8Elvis already pointed out, Zimmerman's current lawyer verified on an independent website (i.e. not via a media outlet) that it did in fact belong to him:


Short of George Zimmerman showing up at your door to confirm it personally, I'm not sure what else one would require.

I think he realizes that now. You missed his humble mea culpa:

So yeah, the fact that every now and then your Nancy Grace hysterical rumor-mongering turns out to match an occasional random factoid, doesn't make skepticism an invalid approach.
Dream on.

 

[Cylinder]

Source: Several to face charges in death of FAMU drum major

Criminal charges are expected to be filed Wednesday in Orlando in the suspected hazing death of Florida A&M University drum major Robert Champion.

"We're announcing that charges will be filed against several people involved in the death," a law enforcement source close to the investigation said.

State Attorney Lawson Lamar of Orange and Osceola counties will hold a news conference Wednesday afternoon, his office said.

A spokeswoman for the university declined to comment on the news conference because the school did not have any details about it.

Champion, 26, died in November.

Why did it take five months for charges in this case?

Hint: The answer has nothing whatsoever to do with race or ethnicity.

 

[This is The End]

In case anyone was wondering if the page was GZ's, MO'M confirms it was his and abandoned in 2005.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/05/0...-salvo-in.html
George Zimmerman’s Myspace: every Mexican pulled a knife
Just as George Zimmerman’s attorney pushes the envelope of accepted legal practices by launching a social media operation for his client, another site has popped up that belonged to the controversial former neighborhood watch volunteer who now faces a murder charge.
This one is a 7-year old Myspace page called “only to be king again” that makes disparaging comments about Mexicans. The Web page, which his attorney confirmed Tuesday is legitimate, makes reference to 2005 criminal cases and a brush in court with a woman who Zimmerman called his “ex-hoe.”
There are several photos of Zimmerman on the page, and in one of them he appears to be wearing the same orange polo shirt that he donned in his 2005 police mug shot. Zimmerman used the name “Joe G.” on the site, and posted a biography that mentions he grew up in Manassas, Va., had recently opened an insurance business and missed all his friends.

Zimmerman’s attorney, Mark O’Mara, confirmed the page was his client’s, and that it was abandoned in 2005.
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That MySpace page is shameful.

 

[Kaosium]

That MySpace page is shameful.

Why, because the typing is worse than mine?

 

[This is The End]

Why, because the typing is worse than mine?

If only it was just that.

 

[Kaosium]

If only it was just that.

I got to thinking about it, and was curious what you were referring to as shameful. Do you think that web page would be atypical for someone with his background and environment?

 

[a_unique_person]

I was mildly joking, of course. <<< see that?

My post was a jab at the insinuation regarding "setting out" with a gun.

I sometimes "set out" with a gun. So far, I have yet to fire at anything remotely approaching a human being.

Say, why do we have smileys anyway?

Absolutely no one seems to pay any attention to them.

Do you set out with a gun, chasing someone who you think is going to get away again, who you think is probably on drugs?

 

[Kaosium]

All the evidence is that TM's initial response was to run away from trouble. You may dispute what comes next, but you can't dispute he tried to avoid a confrontation and not injure.

There was no 'confrontation' at that point. George Zimmerman saw him acting suspiciously and called the police. When TM saw him, he soon took off running.

That's rather odd behavior when you think on it, isn't it?

 

[Kaosium]

Do you set out with a gun, chasing someone who you think is going to get away again, who you think is probably on drugs?

What makes you think he wanted to catch him? The 911 call suggests he was trying to keep him in sight as the operator had asked him where TM was headed. When the operator seemed to realize GZ was running, perhaps from his breathing, he said 'we don't need you to do that' and GZ stopped.

 

[a_unique_person]

GZ didn't stop

 

[Kaosium]

GZ didn't stop

That's an interesting claim at this stage, what makes you say that?

 

[LTC8K6]

Do you set out with a gun, chasing someone who you think is going to get away again, who you think is probably on drugs?

GZ wasn't chasing TM, and had no intent of coming anywhere near TM, imo.

GZ was only moving enough to keep TM in sight for the dispatcher, imo.

TM is the one who closed the distance, imo. Twice.

 

[LTC8K6]

That MySpace page is shameful.

And irrelevant...

Just like TM's web presence...