Childlike Empress
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Here's a little conspiracy theory i've just developed.
In May 2011, Jonathan Kay's book Among the Truthers was published. Kay is a relatively young canadian journalist. It's a book taking a sociological and psycho-pathological look at "conspiricists" as he calls them, tying it all together with roots in "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion", exemplating the perceived phenomenon by chapters about some well-known figures in the "Truth Movement" like David Ray Griffin, Richard Gage, Mike Ruppert and Kevin Barrett. The regulars know the story. He has an explanation for every one of them "falling" for the theories. Griffin is a "crank", Gage has a "midlife crisis", Ruppert is "insane" and Barrett is a raving anti-semitic lunatic.
Barrett has a radio show where Kay was a guest two months after the book was published - i've posted it some time ago and again recently after forum member fourtoe requested the link after i've mentioned it in passing. Today he posted it to his thread on 9/11 audio debates after he came around to listen to it.
Direct link to the audio of the July 2011 discussion is here. It suffers from some Skype problems but all in all is interesting and reasonably respectful, especially from Barrett's side given how he was prominently portrait in the book. Details on how he thinks he was quoted out of context and slandered are here.
The latter link I found because I've listened to the beginning of the debate again today, after fourtoe posted the link in his thread. Barrett mentioned that Kay was on his show the second time, so I went to look-up that first show, done while Kay was writing his book.
Here is the link to their first debate from June 2009. In this audio, the book is scheduled to come out in 2010, so there was a significant delay. And the context, well, they had a very good discussion and sound both reasonable, especially Barrett who doesn't shy away from answering question about alternative narratives etc. They touch on the Neo-Cons quite a bit. And Kay doesn't sound like he's about to write a hitpiece slandering Barrett as a wild-eyed Antisemit.
But that's what happened, and frankly I wouldn't be able to come up with an explanation for it if it weren't for the fact that I know from discussions after the release of his book that Kay is a "fellow" in a Neo-Con related Think-Tank called Foundation for the Defense of Democracies which is sometimes described as PNAC reloaded.
So, did someone use the eMail-Adress Kay offered at the end of the first interview in June 2009 and made him an offer that lead to the 2011 interview where Barrett tries to explain why he's not a Jew-hating Idiot? To write his book in a certain way?
Well, I don't know when he joined the group but Kay's publication list on the FDD website starts on September 15th, 2009.
In May 2011, Jonathan Kay's book Among the Truthers was published. Kay is a relatively young canadian journalist. It's a book taking a sociological and psycho-pathological look at "conspiricists" as he calls them, tying it all together with roots in "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion", exemplating the perceived phenomenon by chapters about some well-known figures in the "Truth Movement" like David Ray Griffin, Richard Gage, Mike Ruppert and Kevin Barrett. The regulars know the story. He has an explanation for every one of them "falling" for the theories. Griffin is a "crank", Gage has a "midlife crisis", Ruppert is "insane" and Barrett is a raving anti-semitic lunatic.
Barrett has a radio show where Kay was a guest two months after the book was published - i've posted it some time ago and again recently after forum member fourtoe requested the link after i've mentioned it in passing. Today he posted it to his thread on 9/11 audio debates after he came around to listen to it.
Direct link to the audio of the July 2011 discussion is here. It suffers from some Skype problems but all in all is interesting and reasonably respectful, especially from Barrett's side given how he was prominently portrait in the book. Details on how he thinks he was quoted out of context and slandered are here.
The latter link I found because I've listened to the beginning of the debate again today, after fourtoe posted the link in his thread. Barrett mentioned that Kay was on his show the second time, so I went to look-up that first show, done while Kay was writing his book.
Here is the link to their first debate from June 2009. In this audio, the book is scheduled to come out in 2010, so there was a significant delay. And the context, well, they had a very good discussion and sound both reasonable, especially Barrett who doesn't shy away from answering question about alternative narratives etc. They touch on the Neo-Cons quite a bit. And Kay doesn't sound like he's about to write a hitpiece slandering Barrett as a wild-eyed Antisemit.
But that's what happened, and frankly I wouldn't be able to come up with an explanation for it if it weren't for the fact that I know from discussions after the release of his book that Kay is a "fellow" in a Neo-Con related Think-Tank called Foundation for the Defense of Democracies which is sometimes described as PNAC reloaded.
So, did someone use the eMail-Adress Kay offered at the end of the first interview in June 2009 and made him an offer that lead to the 2011 interview where Barrett tries to explain why he's not a Jew-hating Idiot? To write his book in a certain way?
Well, I don't know when he joined the group but Kay's publication list on the FDD website starts on September 15th, 2009.
