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Trayvon Martin, Vigilante Justice

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Skeptic Ginger said:
What, they never retire?

For the record, I said politics was likely involved. What I'm challenging is your hypothesis the first prosecutor didn't press charges because he didn't want a failed case on his record.
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What, they never run for another office after they retire?

What I made was an off-hand comment, not a hypothesis. However, that this guy wouldn't give in on an obvious bad conviction (from your quote) indicates that his win/loss record is extremely important to him, which was the off-hand point.

This is really worth debate?
 
Maybe I missed it, but has anyone had contact to GZ at this point? I mean after his attorneys stepped down?
 
johnny karate said:
Yeah, no kidding. While half a dozen whackjobs who call themselves the "New Black Panther Party" have been consistently held up as representative of one side of this case, it seems to get overlooked that the Martin family themselves have only ever called for justice for their dead son.
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Get real. It was the family that gave the media the super young picture of Trayvon and didn't correct the media as everyone thought he was just a "little boy". The source I found for the first statement that George weighed 250lbs was Trayvon's father. I have no idea where the 140lbs for Trayvon came from but that was a lie as well.

Originally Trayvon's father told the police it wasn't his sons voice screaming. Trayvon's brother in an interview said he couldn't tell who it was. George's father said it was his son screaming, along with George's immeidate statement to the police which was supported by three (?) witnesses at the scene and George's injuries. What changed?

Look at how Cutcher's statements change over time and how she had later been convinced that she knew it was the the "little boy" screaming for help. Just look at how the media uses her as an "eye witness" when she obviously just echoing what she learned from the media. Do you think Cutcher knew that Trayvon was four inches taller and had a higher lean body mass then George when she called Trayvon the "little boy"? If Cutcher had a clue she would have realized she was looking at an injured man acting concussed holding a head injury who just moments earlier she had heard in such distress she called his screams "whines", instead she rewrites what she saw in her memory and now has palpable contempt for George based on the lies of the media and the family.

Take a step back and listen closely to audio that was supposed to be Zimmerman saying "coons" and it is clearly punks. I have no idea why others can't hear it but no portion of the word is coons. This is Orwellian stuff, but instead of 2 + 2 = 5 you have "p + un + k = coons."

Notice how nothing I said had anything to due with the NBBP and actually is a direct attack on two old white male forensic audio "experts" and a white woman. Racism in the USA hasn't matched the progressive's memes of a white vs black dynamic since the early sixties, if ever.
 
Moss said:
Maybe I missed it, but has anyone had contact to GZ at this point? I mean after his attorneys stepped down?
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Yea - he didn't really "lose contact" with his attorneys - he fired them. Zimmerman turned himself in last night and is in custody.
 
Dancing David said:
It is not surprising that the charge would not be 'first degree murder' is it? Most of the bars for that have not been crossed.
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My understanding as well. Yet, the jury might have backed off to 2nd degree or manslaughter. Apparently not enough evidence for 1st; I'm surprised she found enough for 2nd.

With the 2nd degree charge manslaughter may again be the option if 2nd degree can't be proved beyond reasonable doubt.

Apologies if this has been previously posted.
 
curi0us said:
Get real. It was the family that gave the media the super young picture of Trayvon and didn't correct the media as everyone thought he was just a "little boy".
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You object to the photos the Martin family supplied to the media of their dead son? Really?

I'd say it's pretty damn cynical if you attribute that to some kind dishonest ulterior motive as opposed to just wishing to have the photos published of their dead child be ones they most favor.

And who exactly in the media has been referring to Trayvon as a "little boy"?

curi0us said:
The source I found for the first statement that George weighed 250lbs was Trayvon's father. I have no idea where the 140lbs for Trayvon came from but that was a lie as well.
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A source, I notice, you conveniently didn't provide. But god forbid a grieving father overestimate the weight and size of the man who shot his son to death. What an opportunistic monster!

curi0us said:
Originally Trayvon's father told the police it wasn't his sons voice screaming. Trayvon's brother in an interview said he couldn't tell who it was. George's father said it was his son screaming, along with George's immeidate statement to the police which was supported by three (?) witnesses at the scene and George's injuries. What changed?
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I don't know. Maybe it's when people are grief-stricken over the shooting death of their child, they might not always be coherent in their thinking.

Or maybe what you're implying is true. Maybe the Martin family - those horrible people who dared try to get justice for their dead son - are just soulless, craven socipaths out to destroy poor, innocent George Zimmerman.

Then again, maybe you should back off from being so judgmental about people who are mourning the death of their child.
 
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CNN keeps showing a picture of Zimmerman smiling, along with another of him that looks like his high school yearbook photo. Clearly, CNN is in on the Make Trayvon Younger conspiracy but they got the target wrong.

Someone's head will roll at the next Get Whitey meeting, that's for sure.
 
Unabogie said:
CNN keeps showing a picture of Zimmerman smiling, along with another of him that looks like his high school yearbook photo. Clearly, CNN is in on the Make Trayvon Younger conspiracy but they got the target wrong.

Someone's head will roll at the next Get Whitey meeting, that's for sure.
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Every major news outlet also ran enhanced stills and/or video of Zimmerman's injuries.

CNN also broke the story in which they used audio forensics to disprove Zimmerman uttered a racial slur during his 911 call.

But none of that matters.

The important thing is to keep the lying, scheming parents of Trayvon Martin under the microscope.
 
johnny karate said:
Every major news outlet also ran enhanced stills and/or video of Zimmerman's injuries.

CNN also broke the story in which they used audio forensics to disprove Zimmerman uttered a racial slur during his 911 call.

But none of that matters.

The important thing is to keep the lying, scheming parents of Trayvon Martin under the microscope.
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Well, they had to make up for their earlier claims. :D
 
johnny karate said:
Every major news outlet also ran enhanced stills and/or video of Zimmerman's injuries.

CNN also broke the story in which they used audio forensics to disprove Zimmerman uttered a racial slur during his 911 call.

But none of that matters.

The important thing is to keep the lying, scheming parents of Trayvon Martin under the microscope.
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Audio forensics is woo. Except where it helps Zimmerman, in which case it's bleeding edge science.
 
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