Trayvon Martin, Vigilante Justice

[leftysergeant]

"Questions," as I read it, aren't really enough to arrest in contravention to a claim of statutory immunity.

I am thinking of a scene from "The Life of Brian" in which a condemned man steps up to a centurion who asks, "Crucifiction?" and the condemned tells the centurion, "No. Pardon," and the Centurion tells him to go on his way.

Is Forida really that much an idiocracy since they elected first one of the Bush swarm and then the Medicare chisler as goobener?

 

[Cylinder]

Then she should have just gone ahead and filed charges on the night of the shooting and let the chips fall where they might. Everybody spiked the ball on the twenty-yard line here.

From my understanding, this was the initial reaction of the police. Thankfully, the State's Attorney did not take such a cavalier approach to illegal arrests such as you have described.

 

[Cylinder]

I am thinking of a scene from "The Life of Brian" in which a condemned man steps up to a centurion who asks, "Crucifiction?" and the condemned tells the centurion, "No. Pardon," and the Centurion tells him to go on his way.

So, you think that arrest warrants should be issued on police suspicion of wrondoing?

 

[leftysergeant]

From my understanding, this was the initial reaction of the police. Thankfully, the State's Attorney did not take such a cavalier approach to illegal arrests such as you have described.

She took the word of some slimeball who had been told not to be where he was and wound up shooting a kid who did nothing at all wrong.

She's too stupid to remain on the government payroll, even in a dysfunctional state like Florida.

 

[Cylinder]

She took the word of some slimeball who had been told not to be where he was and wound up shooting a kid who did nothing at all wrong.

She's too stupid to remain on the government payroll, even in a dysfunctional state like Florida.

OK - do you feel that not only do police have the authority to issue warrant on suspicion, they also have the power to hire people who have the authority to tell people where they can and cannot go?

 

[varwoche]

The article is incorrect, then?

He didn't?


"But Jackson told the crowd at the church, "Zimmerman told police he had killed him. Shot him in the back of the head in self-defense.""

I can't find a reputable source that reports Jackson speaking those words. I see it being bandied about the right wing echo chamber, but it's always the same sketchy link to google cache.

 

[LTC8K6]

I can't find a reputable source that reports Jackson speaking those words. I see it being bandied about the right wing echo chamber, but it's always the same sketchy link to google cache.

You probably found this, though.

Interesting that it was reported as Jesse Jackson at first.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/03/26/Martin-Back-Head

My guess is that PUSH started the story, and then had to retract it.

 

[LTC8K6]

The idea of the "back of the head" shot goes back to early reports claiming that Zimmerman had Martin down in the grass. That Zimmerman was on top during the struggle.

 

[leftysergeant]

So, you think that arrest warrants should be issued on police suspicion of wrondoing?

Damned right.

 

[leftysergeant]

OK - do you feel that not only do police have the authority to issue warrant on suspicion, they also have the power to hire people who have the authority to tell people where they can and cannot go?

They have the authority to tell some uneducated dork not to interfere with their operations.

 

[Information Analyst]

The Chief was probably just interpreting that as Zimmerman being unsure that Martin was black at the moment he was asked in the initial stages.

It's certainly not enough to call the Chief a liar and accuse him of a cover up.

Although to be fair, later in the recording Zimmerman does more emphatically state (at 1m 08s): "he's a black male."

 

[Noztradamus]

She took the word of some slimeball who had been told not to be where he was and wound up shooting a kid who did nothing at all wrong.

She's too stupid to remain on the government payroll, even in a dysfunctional state like Florida.

Lefty you old misogynist you. Is is so hard to tell the difference between

Norman Wolfinger (man parts) States Attorney who reportedly overuled the homicide detecrtive who wanted Zimmerman charged in Feb 26. Further declined to proceed when the case official reached his desk on March 13.
Finally ordered a Grand Jury to make the decision on March 20. Stood down March 23

and

Angela Corey (woman parts) appointed Special Prosecutor March 24. And on March 26 suggested they could proceed directly to charges without the Grand Jury.

 

[leftysergeant]

Lefty you old misogynist you. Is is so hard to tell the difference between

Norman Wolfinger (man parts) States Attorney who reportedly overuled the homicide detecrtive who wanted Zimmerman charged in Feb 26. Further declined to proceed when the case official reached his desk on March 13.
Finally ordered a Grand Jury to make the decision on March 20. Stood down March 23

and

Angela Corey (woman parts) appointed Special Prosecutor March 24. And on March 26 suggested they could proceed directly to charges without the Grand Jury.

Okay, it gets a little hard to tell the players without a program.

Mea culpa, mea culpa. Mea MAXIMA CULPA.

HE is a vapid twit who should never be on the government payroll again on grounds of utter stupidity.

 

[triforcharity]

Is it possible that he was cleaned up by EMTs at the scene? Is it possible that there are no bandages because he has a buzzed haircut and it would be kind of pointless to bandage up his hair?

I can guarantee that the medics did clean his head of blood, but nowhere else.

And yes, it would have been bandaged. The tape medics use will stick to damn near anything.

 

[andyandy]

Well at least this forum has found its new Amanda Knox.

oh no................................

 

[TheL8Elvis]

I see a slight discoloration on the back of his head that may be some type of injury, or just a shadow. You can clearly see the outline of the back of his head from several different angles, and it does not appear at all misshapen or swollen.

Again, we were told Zimmerman had his head repeatedly bashed onto concrete. There is nothing in that video that indicates this is true.

From the leaked police report we have:

• Trayvon ... punched Zimmerman in the nose. Trayvon got on top of him and began slamming his head into the sidewalk
  (ETA - that's not repeatedly bashed, but they are not necessarily inconsistent statements)
  
• Zimmerman was bleeding from the nose, had a swollen lip and had bloody lacerations to the back of his head
  
• Paramedics gave him first aid but he said he did not need to go to the hospital. He got medical care the next day.

I think it was aptly summed up that this disproves nothing, but doesn't help GZ.

I do hope that those claiming to see nothing now won't blame it on low resolution footage later if photos with clearly visible injuries are released.

 

[TheL8Elvis]

I can guarantee that the medics did clean his head of blood, but nowhere else.

And yes, it would have been bandaged. The tape medics use will stick to damn near anything.

Is it not possible to use liquid bandage or something similar ? I think this is all pretty premature to get wrapped up in details, but I guess I can't help speculating either.

 

[LTC8K6]

http://dailycaller.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Zimmerman-ABC-video-enhanced-caption.jpg

Injuries?

 

[eeyore1954]

I thought I'd just collect some gems gathered from the case (and the thread).

1) If someone follows you and generally acts like a jerk you're fully justified in attacking them. Even getting their gun from them and shooting them (thanks Lefty).

2) It's OK to constantly use a mugshot when discussing Zimmerman the burly white paranoid watchdog, and drag his every past deed through the microscope of public opinion; but Martin the 17 year old black boy who was carrying candy must be depicted only through wholesome photos that depict him younger and innocent looking, and his past deeds are sacrosanct and must never be examined.

3) Police officer statements are not to be trusted, but kinda-sorta witnesses with changing stories KNOW.

4) Your lawyer appealing for sympathy is sleazy, but a country wide campaign with marches and politicians on-board is peachy.

5) If you're half white but President you're actually black. If you're half Hispanic and shoot a kid you're actually white.

6) Give people some grainy footage and they're Quincy.

7) If someone beats you badly enough to cut your head and make your nose bleed, it better be a gaping wound and a broken nose or else they don't count.

8) If someone is hitting you, be sure and run a self-diagnostic before considering a response to make sure you're truly in danger.

9) Teenage males who's family has broken up can not be aggressive and reckless.

10) If you outweigh your opponent, no-one will believe you could be cowed or overpowered.

You also forgot that all evidence collected by the police is always released to the public and if there is no mention of any police work then it did not happen.

 

[Denver]

http://dailycaller.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Zimmerman-ABC-video-enhanced-caption.jpg

Injuries?

That looks like a very painful comb-over.