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Penultimate Amazing
So they are even more incompetent than they are being portrayed in the media? How does that help their case?
You thought that was a serious answer?
Perhaps the media sources finally got hold of a reliable leak?
So they are even more incompetent than they are being portrayed in the media? How does that help their case?
Since we are speculating...
Did Martin have drugs on him?
Was his violent reaction to Zimmerman's questions because he didn't want to be arrested?
Is that why Martin does not call 911?
As I understand it, John gave the SPD his statement at the scene.As for John, why did he wait this long to come out with his story? Is there any evidence that he saw what happened that night?
I don't understand. How does the GF differentiate between the TM being pushed, or TM jumping towards/attacking GZ though the phone ?
You thought that was a serious answer?
Perhaps the media sources finally got hold of a reliable leak?
Ok... & why would the police hold on to the details of that until now?
So now he had drugs on him and the cops saw no point in mentioning that either?
If George physically threatened Trayvon, the kid would be justified in hitting him. As far as Trayvon knows, George was a thug out to rob him.
George was just a wannabe, he wasn't a cop. He didn't have the right to detain Trayvon, but he seems to have thought he did.
As for John, why did he wait this long to come out with his story? Is there any evidence that he saw what happened that night?
I expect this to be hashed out when(?) Zimmerman is prosecuted. And while it may be interesting to speculate, it doesn't change the basic notion that the agreed upon facts demand that Zimmerman be tried.The questions about following in and out of the car aside for the moment. Assume GZ followed TM and got relatively close right before the shooting, and TM (on the phone with his GF) stopped, turned and asked
'why are you following me?' and GZ responded 'what are you doing here?'
Based on the information we have so far, what do you think happened next ?
Why would it have to leak?
I expect this to be hashed out when(?) Martinez is prosecuted. And while it may be interesting to speculate, it doesn't change the basic notion that the agreed upon facts demand that Martinez be tried.
Congrats of sorts to Wildcat and you for shifting the burden as if Martinez' guilt needs to be proven in order for him to be prosecuted.
Why would it have to leak?
Maybe it's in the audio? Maybe Trayvon says "ow"? My point is that this is now an allegation. So my question isn't "is this proven", but "if proven, doesn't this blow Zimmerman's case out of the water if he pushed first?"
Punks. Listening to the tape he say "punks" not "coons" or "goons".
Sure, if Zimmerman threatened him.If George physically threatened Trayvon, the kid would be justified in hitting him. As far as Trayvon knows, George was a thug out to rob him.
Weasel word hilited, do you have any evidence that Zimemrman tried to detain Martin, or intended to?George was just a wannabe, he wasn't a cop. He didn't have the right to detain Trayvon, but he seems to have thought he did.
He gave his statement to police that very night. IIRC he's a 13 year old boy who was out walking his dog.As for John, why did he wait this long to come out with his story? Is there any evidence that he saw what happened that night?
In that case, the killing was justified!![]()
It happened in his back yard. He called 911, he gave a statement to police, he gave an interview to the news. He didn't wait. This man hes been mentioned in the thread multiple times over the last few days.
IIRC he was treated by EMTs at the scene.However it does make me question why a medical exam was not preformed on Mr. Zimmerman.