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Saudi Arabia May Be Tied to 9/11, 2 Ex-Senators Say

shure said:
Please tell me what you are saying I said in my post.
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I don't know.....perhaps it is your ability to say lots and link to lots implicating multi agency or muti internation agencies knowledge in one form or other followed by a seemingly authorative link to Kevin Fenton, who seems to blame just one, Alec Station

Can leave someone rather confused as to where it is you lay!
 
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Fenton gives pieces of the puzzle just like Anthony Summers, Ali Sufan, Bob Graham, Lawrence Wright and many others.

There are broader issues with multi nation intelligence agencies that go beyond just Alec Station to others such as: ISI (Pakistan) and GID (Saudi)...

Bandar Bush stated they were tracking the hijackers "with precision". He wass referring to the GID which was headed at the time by Prince Turki. Turki's sister is Bandar's wife, princess Haifa. She was also the one who was sending money to one of the saudi agents in San Diego who was helping two of the hijackers that were living at an FBI informants house.

Small world.
 
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BCR said:
Why do people continue to perpetuate the myth that Osama and his associates were "cavemen", implying of course that they were uneducated buffoons? These were (are) well-educated men and far from being cavemen. The master planners were actually Yousef, Murad and KSM. Yousef was educated in the UK and quite brilliant. Murad studied at flight schools in the US and was a pilot. KSM also studied in the US. Osama (the financier) was also a college-educated man who left college to engage the Soviets in Afghanistan. His #2, Zawahiri is a medical doctor. And, the operational commander Atta had just earned a Masters degree!

So hardly cavemen. They were very bright men who had studied not only the US, but also our intelligence assets since the Soviet-Afghan conflict. They studied commercial aviation and knew exactly how to penetrate it. Your remarks demonstrate your ignorance of the topic at hand.
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Not to mention his remarks present a commensurate overrating of US intelligence abilities, to almost mythical proportions. Too much watching The Bourne Identity and too little actual research.
 
shure said:
Fenton give pieces of the puzzle. There are broader issues with multi nation intelligence agencies that go beyond just Alec Station to others such as: ISI (Pakistan) and GID (Saudi)...

Bandar Bush stated they were tracking the hijackers "with precision". He wass referring to the GID which was headed at the time by Prince Turki. Turki's sister is Bandar's wife, princess Haifa. She was also the one who was sending money to one of the saudi agents in San Diego who was helping two of the hijackers that were living at an FBI informants house.

Small world.
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Not such a small world after all then, hey.

Why do you think they did nothing about it? Was it because they intentially let it happen or was it because they ********** up, didn'y really understand what it was they where looking at and the chain broke......if indeed a chain between them even existed. I think these need to be established before accusing people of being complicit in mass murder.

Don't they all seem to give 'pieces of the puzzle'. Have you ever been given a real time conundrum with 'pieces'?

You point to a link in which Fenton fingers Alec Station.

You also post numerous links that point the finger at multiple agencies.

Yet you have no answers in 2012?

Oh what a web. In 2012 you supposedly have the pieces at your fingers tips, but still can't put them together. What chance did the CIA, FBI etc have?

Please don't post me any more links. They simply support my view that hindsight can be a wonderful tool......when you have all the pieces!

Edit:- I'm glad you added those extra names. More pieces to the puzzle. As I said.....hindsight is a wonderful tool when in discussion. Take me back to 2001. Still got those pieces in front of you?
 
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We know that is a LIE because we know the censored pages in the joint inquiry show foreign goverment involvement.
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DGM said:
We do? Show how.
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We know thanks to decent people like Bob Graham.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOHGR4RxZVs


You can show the connection? (not just some faction of)
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The "House of Saud" is the government. I don't mean every single person. I understand the Saudi "royal family" consists of quite a few people , but the evidence points to some key people like prince Bandar Bush, princess Haifa (Bandar's wife) and prince Turki ( head of GID, Haifa's brother).

You can also refer to the video l posted above. Bob Graham also defines it as "Saudi government" involvement.

Can we explore possible reasons an administration (I didn't specify Bush because this hold true today) might want to withhold this information (whatever it might actually be)?

Sound good?
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I would say one of those possible reasons was because some people in an administration are interested in their own pocket books more than the best interest of the people and national security of their country.
 
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What do you think intelligence agencies do, Jackanory?

They collect data and try to piece things together.

When it comes to 9/11, we have those people lying, distorting and blocking crucial information that would have stopped the 9/11 plot for happening.
 
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Yes I saw that documentary and thought it was very good. Frontline documentaries are one of my favourite programs.

I found this episode to be really good also.
 
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shure said:
What do you think intelligence agencies do, Jackanory?

They collect data and try to piece things together.

When it comes to 9/11, we have those people lying, distorting and blocking crucial information that would have stopped the 9/11 plot for happening.
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Please don't patronise me. I am more than familiar with how intelligence agencies operate. It is why I have asked that you clarify if you know how they operate. You are coming through loud and clear.
 
One person that would of had a lot of intelligence was Bush. After all, his BFF Bandar was tracking the terrorists with precision.
 
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shure said:
What do you think intelligence agencies do, Jackanory?

They collect data and try to piece things together.
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This is what us proles are supposed to believe intelligence agencies do. This is the myth.

When it comes to 9/11, we have those people lying, distorting and blocking crucial information that would have stopped the 9/11 plot for happening.
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And this is the reality. This is what intelligence agencies are really for. Lying, deception, spying, assassinations, high-level intrigue, and other assorted shenanigans.

Mafias have their hit squads, while nation-states have "intelligence agencies". They essentially have the same function when you get right down to it.
 
shure said:
I just don't see that as being possible given the information we have today.
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Can you lay it out for me.

Can you put the pieces together, in your own words, to show us what it is you want us to see.

Take your time. No links. No videos. No quotes.

What is it that you think was hidden, covered up, by who and why?

Given that you have already piece it all together, it would be beneficial for you to show it in chronological order of when it became known. It would help if you started with your conclusion, jut so that we can see if we can come to the same conclusion......as it was happening and without hindsight.

Cant ask more that that. Spit it out.

MODS.....given that Shure has this going in two threads, perhaps it would be beneficial to merge them.
 
SpringHallConvert said:
And this is the reality. This is what intelligence agencies are really for. Lying, deception, spying, assassinations, high-level intrigue, and other assorted shenanigans.

Mafias have their hit squads, while nation-states have "intelligence agencies". They essentially have the same function when you get right down to it.
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No, there is no reality at all in anything you say. Everything you post is completely evidence free with no mention of sourcing for your statements at all.

Why do you keep equating the Mafia with intelligence agencies? Not only are black helicopters flying over your house, you now have long Cadillac’s circling your house. Of course you can’t see them from the basement, but just ask your Mom, she’ll tell you.
 
shure said:
Yes I saw that documentary and thought it was very good. Frontline documentaries are one of my favourite programs.

I found this episode to be really good also.
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I would agree. It also shows how a government involvement in something like 9/11 would not go unnoticed or investigated by major world journalists.

Would you agree?
 
OCaptain said:
You still didn't answer my question. Who should have investigated it?
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Bingo. That's the big question everyone on this board should be asking and attempting to answer.

When corruption, cronyism, and treason permeate nearly every level of government, and that government murders its own citizens in cold blood, who has the authority, resources, and power to investigate the investigators?
 
SpringHallConvert said:
Bingo. That's the big question everyone on this board should be asking and attempting to answer.

When corruption, cronyism, and treason permeate nearly every level of government, and that government murders its own citizens in cold blood, who has the authority, resources, and power to investigate the investigators?
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The media then in-tern the people. This is why "truthers" have been so unsuccessful. They can't convince the media any of their arguments are true.
 
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