Has Global Peak Oil been reached?

R.A.F. said:
Anders is abusing the highlighter...someone take it away from him...
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But seriously, check out the words I highlighted in that article. And compare with a trick like: "Don't think about a pink elephant." I suspect they are programming the public to start thinking in the terms I highlighted.
 
Anders Lindman said:
But seriously...
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Sorry, but I am familiar with your posting history, and simply can not take what you post seriously because of that history.


That's the result of posting irrationality does to a persons on line "character"...it destroys it.
 
R.A.F. said:
Sorry, but I am familiar with your posting history, and simply can not take what you post seriously because of that history.


That's the result of posting irrationality does to a persons on line "character"...it destroys it.
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We will see. :flamed: If I'm correct then you will be mightily impressed I bet. :)
 
aggle-rithm said:
Even a broken watch is right twice a day.
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Ok, I will make my prediction even more impressive by picking dates for when this will happen: Tomorrow media will start trumpeting news about Iran flexing its military muscles around the area of the Strait of Hormuz. Then on Wednesday 3/21 there will be a military incidence between Iran and the U.S.
 
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The point is rather simple , straightforward, TRUE

SpitfireIX said:
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're making a lame joke. :rolleyes:

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The point is rather simple , straightforward, TRUE.....

With better stewardship, the reserve would have been preserved to a greater degree. As such, there would be more oil remaining and less demand as well. Greater supply and less demand would mean a lower price.

Driving cars and flying around in planes for the most part is wasteful. Whether the planet has another 1, 2, 3 or whatever trillion barrels of crude oil yet to give up, the stuff is off the hook valuable and should not be casually used. Driving to the market for groceries is an idiotic waste of this insanely valuable resource.

Say we had twice our present proven reserve, say it was 42 billion barrels instead of 21 billion barrels. That is still only 6 years worth of oil at current US consumption rates(7 billion barrels a year).

Why are we pumping ANY of our own stuff? If ANY president had a half a brain they'd be conserving the stuff, our OWN OIL. It is counter intuitive, but if anything, we should be importing more, if that's what we want to do, drive around and fly planes for no apparent or inapparent reason.......
 
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Best way to put this in perspective, an absolute truth here.....

Patrick1000 said:
My point about gas being a buck a gallon had to do with the leadership issue....

With better stewardship there would have been, there would be, more reserve and less demand. People would not want to drive , or even have a car period for that matter. That is, had there been intelligent leadership.

Driving around is a waste of time and energy, a waste of people's lives. You could be learning to play the violin, or the piano, or the banjo for God's sake, studying Japanese, kissing a pretty girl. Driving a car? What a waste.......
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Best way to put this in perspective, and absolute truth here....The WORST DOMESTIC, THE WORST FOREIGN, THE WORST POLICY OF ANY SORT that an American president can engage in is a policy maintaining this status quo where we pump our own oil and consume it per the current hair brained DANGEROUS scheme.
 
Patrick1000 said:
Why looky there.......I made a mistake......

http://dieoff.org/page140.htm

the article was published in 1998 and not 1996, I stand corrected.......
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This was an interesting graph showing how the 'proven' oil reserves in the Middle East suddenly made a giant leap of increase: http://dieoff.org/page144.jpg

Sure, the amount of proven reserves depends on the definition so if the definition changes then that can change the amount, BUT then shouldn't we have seen similar jumps in other oil-producing countries in the world?

ETA: Hmm... Venezuela is included in that graph so at least one country outside the Middle East also had that sudden increase in proven oil reserves. It would be interesting to examine if all countries with oil reserves show such jump in the statistics (although I'm too lazy to research that at the moment, he he).
 
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Hey! Doesn't this count as my prediction of Iran flexing its military muscles today?

"Iran will attack to defend itself: Khamenei

(Reuters) - In the face of aggression from the United States or Israel, Iran will attack to defend itself, Iran's most powerful figure, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said on Tuesday.

"We do not have nuclear weapons and we will not build them but in the face of aggression from the enemies, whether from America or the Zionist regime, to defend ourselves we will attack on the same level as the enemies attack us," Khamenei said live on television." -- Full story: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/20/us-iran-nuclear-khamenei-idUSBRE82J0QX20120320
 
But there is plenty of evidence for it, some would argue that the evidence.......

R.A.F. said:
If you sincerely believe this junk, and you believe it without evidence, then there is little hope for you...
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But there is plenty of evidence for it, some would argue that the evidence is overwhelming RAF.......


http://dieoff.org/page140.htm

http://www.princeton.edu/hubbert/the-peak.html

Campbell and Deffeyes are serious petroleum geologists.........

Marion King Hubbert was correct about the US peak and he was/is correct about the world peak. The only unanswered question is "when exactly? "

As likely as not, it has already occurred. Whether that is indeed the case or not, there is no question that the peak will occur in the lifetimes of your grandchildren anyway RAF. Half of the world's total oil endowment, a quantity measurable in the trillions of gallons will have been squandered on Disneyland, never to be replaced, as it would be as difficult to replace as catching ever so much sunlight, hundreds of millions of years' worth of shine, in a bottle. Magic Mountain anyone?

Anders' excellent point here is that people try and hide this reality.

We know this because one can get around the obfuscation by examining technical literature as did Simmons. You see RAF, the Saudi politicians "lie", engage in creative story telling , for the sake of bettering their situation. But if one reads the technical literature and learns how much water needs to be injected into say the mighty elephantine wells of Ghwar to get the oil to flow, wel then, one begins to get a feel for the dire straights your grandchildren are in.

Don't take my word for it. Give Simmons' book a read;

http://www.google.com/imgres?hl=en&...http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/entertainment


and Deffeyes book as well;

http://www.google.com/imgres?hl=en&...cmillan.com/beyondoil&docid=ePJZ2G0ntnr7dM&im


Read about the USGS perspective;

http://www.radford.edu/wkovarik/oil/2worldoil.mideast.html

Take a look at the debunker perpective;

http://peakoildebunked.blogspot.com/

Bottom line is, ya' can't make oil outta' sunlight, not in a lab anyway, and not without 500,000,000 to work with.

Party's over dude, Anders is all over this one. He is right. The sky is falling and people are scrambling to hide it......
 
Anders Lindman said:
Hey! Doesn't this count as my prediction of Iran flexing its military muscles today?
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No. It's just trash talk.

To count as muscle flexing it would have had to be accompanied by an exercise or a weapons system test.

And to be completely accurate on your part, this would have needed to be the last post you make here at JREF.
 
Sword_Of_Truth said:
No. It's just trash talk.

To count as muscle flexing it would have had to be accompanied by an exercise or a weapons system test.

And to be completely accurate on your part, this would have needed to be the last post you make here at JREF.
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Hmm... Ok, yeah it has to be actual military activity. BUT, I found this:

"TEHRAN, March 11 (MNA) – Iran plans to increase its naval presence on the open seas in the new Iranian calendar year 1391, which starts on March 20, in order to safeguard the country’s interests, the Navy commander said." -- http://www.oananews.org/content/pho...open-seas-new-calendar-year-iranian-commander

:eek: Mars 20, that's today! Exactly the date for my prediction!!!
 
Patrick1000 said:
Bottom line is, ya' can't make oil outta' sunlight, not in a lab anyway, and not without 500,000,000 to work with.

Party's over dude, Anders is all over this one. He is right. The sky is falling and people are scrambling to hide it......
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I guess you never heard of the German's synthetic oil production in WWII? In 2009 worldwide commercial synthetic fuels production capacity was over 240,000 barrels per day

I guess not, it works but its expensive, you should try reading up on a subject before trying to act like an expert.....
 
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Sword_Of_Truth said:
A link to a story posted NINE DAYS AGO.
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Yes, but I didn't know about that yesterday when I made my prediction. Honestly! So it was quite a surprise to see the planned date 3/20. The exact same date that I predicted.

But of course, the really hard part is for tomorrow 3/21 which is the date I predicted for a military incident between Iran and the U.S. lol. :D If THAT prediction turns out to be true, then I'm a fricken Nostradamus. Ha ha.
 
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