Suggestions for Ouija Board experiments

I agree with ExMinister. I don't think there's anything paranormal about it, but Ouija boards totally "work". I've seen the strange misspellings too, and also weird abbreviations that no one would have consciously used, especially back before txt msgs.
 
Make a Ishihara OuiJa board and get colour blind then non colour blind people to use it.
 
I agree with ExMinister. I don't think there's anything paranormal about it, but Ouija boards totally "work". I've seen the strange misspellings too, and also weird abbreviations that no one would have consciously used, especially back before txt msgs.

I have also witnessed instant corrections.

For example, I was writing down the "messages" as they were spelled out one by one, and following a question about a name of a person it started :

M-I-C-H.....

At that point I said, ahh it's "MICHAEL". The glass then shot over to "NO", and then continued to spell:

N-I-C-H-O-L-A-S

"M" and "N" are together on the board in this case, and the glass was too large to easily dfferentiate, so I apparently, "mistakenly" used an "M" instead of the "N".

Why it was so important for this correction to take place place remains a mystery.
 
If you can manage to rule out deliberate deception (by using the board alone, for example), the next obvious explanation is the ideomotor effect.

But the ideomotor effect is usually associated with tiny, subtle muscle movements, as with a pendulum or dowsing rod where at no time does the person perceive their hand to move. The movement takes place below the level of consciousness.

With the Ouija board, the person perceives that their entire hand/arm is moving, with whole words and phrases, in big sweeping motions, and a dialogue is being carried out with a person who is perceived as not them.
When I drove home from the supermarket the other day I was thinking about something else entirely. Who was the person who was turning the wheel, changing gear etc from the time I stopped paying attention until the time I suddenly realised I was pulling into my drive?

Driving, cycling, sight-reading, simultaneously translating a foreign language - there are numerous occasions when people essentially hand over control of some or all of their muscles to their unconscious minds, with minimal or even zero input from their conscious minds.
 
When I drove home from the supermarket the other day I was thinking about something else entirely. Who was the person who was turning the wheel, changing gear etc from the time I stopped paying attention until the time I suddenly realised I was pulling into my drive?

Driving, cycling, sight-reading, simultaneously translating a foreign language - there are numerous occasions when people essentially hand over control of some or all of their muscles to their unconscious minds, with minimal or even zero input from their conscious minds.

Yes, see my thread on BBC Horizon: Out of Control.
 
When I drove home from the supermarket the other day I was thinking about something else entirely. Who was the person who was turning the wheel, changing gear etc from the time I stopped paying attention until the time I suddenly realised I was pulling into my drive?

Driving, cycling, sight-reading, simultaneously translating a foreign language - there are numerous occasions when people essentially hand over control of some or all of their muscles to their unconscious minds, with minimal or even zero input from their conscious minds.

True. I was reading Sam Harris' book Free Will recently where he discusses research that seems to indicate that even the decisions we think we are making consciously can be shown on brain imaging to have been made in some other part of the brain before they even reach conscious awareness.

I guess what intrigues me about Ouija so much is the idea that we seem to be in dialogue with a part of the brain that does not normally have a voice.

Granted, this is what seems to happen in schizophrenia - a separate voice (or voices) is perceived as "not me." The voice has opinions and even a personality that seems distinctly separate, again often contrary or negative or even taken as demonic. It can't be controlled by the sufferer, and is evidently perceived as a separate line of thought or inner voice that seems to be running alongside the main or "me" voice.
 
So, we can only access what we know, or knew and perhaps activate alternate personalities.

Sounds a bit like my lucid dream experiments. What I do is when in a lucid dream, find a dream person (since these can be an expression of myself) and ask them if there's anything my subconscious would like to tell me. My problem so far is that I can't stay lucid long enough, or retain dream memory well enough for this to work.

Now if I could do this with a Ouija board in a self induced meditative state, maybe it would be more successful. Although really what use is it, other than to find where I put the car keys and scare myself with loopy alternate personalities?
 
Although really what use is it, other than to find where I put the car keys and scare myself with loopy alternate personalities?

Peter: Let's drink[Ouija] until we each uncover repressed memories about a trusted religious offender.

Cleveland: Peter, that's crazy talk...Oh My God, Minister Washington, how could you???????

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My experiment was to place my fingers on the thingy and press down too hard, then watch the girls fingers slip off as she started to move it.
 
My experiment was to place my fingers on the thingy and press down too hard, then watch the girls fingers slip off as she started to move it.

I'm sure lots of people hoax with it and maybe she was. But if she wasn't doing it consciously, if it was her subconscious (as opposed to yours), it would be her fingers that would appear to you to be doing the moving.
 
I have also witnessed instant corrections.

For example, I was writing down the "messages" as they were spelled out one by one, and following a question about a name of a person it started :

M-I-C-H.....

At that point I said, ahh it's "MICHAEL". The glass then shot over to "NO", and then continued to spell:

N-I-C-H-O-L-A-S

"M" and "N" are together on the board in this case, and the glass was too large to easily dfferentiate, so I apparently, "mistakenly" used an "M" instead of the "N".

Why it was so important for this correction to take place place remains a mystery.
Could someone explain to me why strange events like this appear in anecdotes all the time, but never appear on video or film when controls are in place to prevent cheating??
 
Could someone explain to me why strange events like this appear in anecdotes all the time, but never appear on video or film when controls are in place to prevent cheating??

It may be strange and unusual but nevertheless probably still down to the ideometer effect. I am not trying to indicate anything "paranormal" is happening with this personal anecdote. It was very interesting and for me, real and relevant, but I am seeking rational explanations, not supernatural ones.
 
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Could someone explain to me why strange events like this appear in anecdotes all the time, but never appear on video or film when controls are in place to prevent cheating??

Why wouldn't this happen on video or film? This happens often with the use of a Ouija board. All it really indicates (to me) is that it's coming from a different level of awareness. That's why you can't anticipate what it's going to say. It really is a part of the mind that seems to have a mind of its own, so to speak.

And how could a person be cheating in this instance anyway?
 
You sit and wait. And wait. :)

The long version is that I would sit cross-legged on the bed with the board in front of me, the fingertips of one or both hands resting lightly on the planchette. Feeling like a total dork, I might ask into the air if there was anyone there who wanted to talk to me. Or not, since I assumed I was talking to myself. I think, as a skeptic, you could just as easily bypass that part (ha). In fact, you hold your arms the same way you would to type, with the amount of pressure you would have on the keyboard while just resting your fingers on the keys.

And then you wait.

OK, thanks :)
 
A bit off topic, but automatic writing seems like another closely related way to Ouija boards to get the subconscious to play alphabet soup. Tried it years ago without success.
 
A bit off topic, but automatic writing seems like another closely related way to Ouija boards to get the subconscious to play alphabet soup. Tried it years ago without success.

I never had any luck with that either. I even tried automatic typing once with no success. At least there is some limit to my weirdness.
 
A sure fire test: Throw the Ouija Board into the lake.
If it floats, it's a witch-burn it!
If it sinks, the gullible will latch onto something else.
 
A sure fire test: Throw the Ouija Board into the lake.
If it floats, it's a witch-burn it!
If it sinks, the gullible will latch onto something else.

Of all the woo subjects on this forum, I think ouija is qualatively different to the myriad of other subjects posted here, and nothing to do with gullibility.

It is also perhaps the most easiest to scientifically scrutinise, even if only to investigate its remarkable ability to tap into the brain's unconscious creative potential. There are many mundane outcomes to ouija sessions, but some can be quite impressive from the creative point of view.

There was an American woman who was an ouija "expert" who wrote a book on the subject, not surprisingly entitled "Ouija". With her long experience, she identified one common characteristic from ouija sessions with a variety of people with different personalities and interests. She said, words to the effect, that when an individual has pre-judged the likely output of a session, or is specifically interested in gaining some kind of targeted information from the "messages", that is usually what they get. In other words, ouija can be all things to all people. If you expect demons, that is what you get. If you are interested in poetry, or history, that is what you get. She had examples of poetry that she claimed came through the board, although it no doubt came from her own head. It was good poetry, although not very good, but nevertheless it was again remarkable for its creativity, that, so we are told, emanated through the planchette, effortlessly.

I say don't knock it until you try it. You can try it with your own controls in place, video cameras etc, very easily and cheaply. It seems to work most times. In the end, whatever the outcome, it will be your experiment, and although it become no more than just part of your own anecdotal experience, at least you may feel sufficiently convinced that it is worthy of peer reviewed scientific evaluation.
 
I found one of these boards and decided to see what the fuss was about.
The milton bradley version is just a flat particle board with the sticker of numbers and letters covering it, and a plastic pointer that is suspended by 3 pegs.

Unsurprisingly, it does absolutely nothing. But I guess I forgot I needed a bloodied bible, 3 virgins and a full moon. Sigh.
 

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