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Continuation - The PG Film - Bob Heironimus and Patty

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Sorry I am on a download limit for now Voodoosix. When I move to a town I'll be able to get unlimited downloads of bigfoot videos and lightning fast speed. But carry on the good fight.
 
No worries ABP, im probably not saying anything that hasnt been covered here already.

i think i did make a strong case for being able get get a pretty accurate height estimation of the PGF subject given the one known (or supposedly known) dimension we are offered. the objections made by Bill Munns were overcome in my control tests, and given the pretty clear image and angle of the foot i think a fairly accurate determination can be made.

if i were still in the military and viewing this subject through a ranging scope and had to make a call as to weather my range was correct by making a similar estimation- id be very comfortable taking that shot.

what we are looking at is well within the range of being a human in a suit- size wise and dimensionally.
 
Voodoosix said:
when we shot the Team Tazer Bigfoot video, there was scene where a guy was walking with wooden BF feet on in the back ground.

the tracks were later found by the son of a neighbor and posted almost immediately as real. the feet werent even something id halfway consider convincing but fooling people is easier than can be imagined apparently. theyve since been removed as we notified the people as to what they had found, but we could easily have let it ride if were of that sort.
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If you take the quality of the stompers out of the equation, how easy would it have been to debunk the tracks on other factors such as the entry/exit points of the trackway?
 
@VoodooSix I love your practicality. Welcome.

But your comment also makes me think "Why hasn't anyone ever shot a BF as a trophy?"
After all, humans can hunt to extinction animals that are a lot more difficult to hit from a goodly distance than a big frickin' ape...
 
@KK, the feet were carved with a chainsaw, were pretty crude and 18" long. i didnt think anyone would assume they were real. the tracks were left in a field in the snow... you could easily see where the wearer walked out and put them on, as his tracks changed from boots to bigfoot (and back) in the middle of the field.

@RP, i always found it odd that we have to pass laws and protect endangered animals to keep them safe, even making hunting of non endangered animals limited to seasons and bag limits to keep from killing too many. unlike any other rare species however, the elusive Sasquatch is so much better than the hunters (or fishermen, whalers etc) that we dont even have to bother protecting them because theyre not just the masters of their environment... they are the masters of every environment since they can migrate and move undetected- anywhere (even urban settings and desert environments according to accounts).

if they were to open a season on any other rare known animal- hunters could go get it, yet no one has been able to bring in a sasquatch under any circumstance.

while the idea that a large primate living in North America isnt impossible, the idea that a 7-12ft tall species that can weigh over 1000lbs... and can slink around undetected like ninjas (Gigantoninjacus wacki?) is so improbable that the likelihood is pretty much zero%.

these things are more rare than something that is extinct, at least we has evidence for extinct animals.
 
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I'm sure somewhere along the line this has been covered and I haven't seen it.
If so I apologize.

But I noticed something else that's curious.
If Patty is a nursing female why all the hair?
If you look at pictures of gorillas' and ape family females they dont have hair on their chests. Nor do humans.

Why does Patty have so much hair?
 
that falls under the "other animals" rule.

if any animal that either exists or once existed any of their traits can be attributed to bigfoot. for example-

cats have furry boobies so it's possible that bigfoots have hairy breasticles.

bats hear ultra sonic frequencies so sasquatches may be able to hear gas seepage from trail cam batteries.

etc...
 
Voodoosix said:
that falls under the "other animals" rule.

if any animal that either exists or once existed any of their traits can be attributed to bigfoot. for example-

cats have furry boobies so it's possible that bigfoots have hairy breasticles.

bats hear ultra sonic frequencies so sasquatches may be able to hear gas seepage from trail cam batteries.

etc...
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Dude, the sasquatches read your mind. That's just bigfoot 101 stuff right there. Then you get into the ultrasound blasts. They zap you!

Everyone knows the hair on their breasts is a sign of beauty to the bigfoots. It's like bigfoot lipstick. Geez, this new guy dont know nuthin! :D
 
It looks like we have a new one.. reading AOL.. something about a or the "Red Deer Cave Men" People. I need to look at that chart again.. ugh.
 
Voodoosix said:
that falls under the "other animals" rule.

if any animal that either exists or once existed any of their traits can be attributed to bigfoot. for example-

cats have furry boobies so it's possible that bigfoots have hairy breasticles.

bats hear ultra sonic frequencies so sasquatches may be able to hear gas seepage from trail cam batteries.

etc...
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Love it! Furry boobies.
 
kitakaze said:
One thing I was surprised to discover is that Greg Long had a falling out with Kal Korff, who wrote the foreward to The Making of Bigfoot, got the book published, pitched the book to the publisher, wrote small portions of the book and assisted in editing the book.

Greg Long had his lawyer send Korff a letter threatening to sue for libel and slander if Korff were to claim responsibility for anything to do with the book.
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About two years ago I got Amazon to change Korff's status from "Author:" to "Foreword:" I had to scan in some front matter from the book and e-mail it in. I thought that would be the end of it. But the last time I looked, it had been changed back. I'm not going to try again--my opponent likely has more staying power, and it's too much trouble for me. But maybe someone should pass the info about this to Greg and ask him to tell Amazon to fix it correctly once and for all.
 
kitakaze said:
And now Part Two of Part Two - Talking With Bob Heironimus Part Two:
Bob and Bob, lived on the exact same street nine doors apart, as they had since before the film was shot in October, 1967.
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Gimlin didn’t live nearby Heironimus “since before ... 1967”; in that year, and until about 1970, he lived in Union Gap, just east of Yakima, on 2614 Rudkin Rd. His address was in the 1967 & 1968 Polk City Directories, which a librarian looked up for me; she was at the Yakima Valley Museum: 509-248-0747.
Greg Long—I asked Merritt about Bob Gimlin.
Merritt—Bob was workin’ breakin’ horses and stuff, so he didn’t come up a lot. He had a nice place there in Union Gap. He had a nice ranch house and corrals.
—The Making of Bigfoot, p. 127
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I can't post my PhotoBucket map of his place, because I haven't made 15 comments here yet.
Excuse me if this misunderstanding was cleared up in the years after 2010.
 
kitakaze said:
And now Part Two of Part Two - Talking With Bob Heironimus Part Two:

Bob started laughing. "The legs felt kind of like hip boots, you know? And you can see my wallet! Forgot to take my wallet out." He laughed again.

That wallet thing, I thought to myself. That was something I had heard before. Right under what was a completely unreal folding crease on Patty's leg there was a bulge that had been famously called by Bigfooters as a hernia on Patty's leg. I thought of the argument that the bulge could not possibly be Bob's wallet because it was too low on the leg. "So which pocket was the wallet in?" I asked. "My side pocket,' he replied. "Yeah, the Bigfooters call that a hernia." Bob started chuckling.
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Kit: “My bad. When I said side pocket, I meant front pocket.”
—(From comment 570)
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[World’s Greatest] Hoaxes claimed computer enhancement showed Bob’s belt buckle under the gorilla costume. When I asked Bob if that was true, he said, “I don’t know, but if they had looked, they would probably have seen my wallet bulging.”
—“Bob Goes Public,” section 11-K, Part 3 of “Coffee with Bigfoot” by Jim Pearson, Marlene’s Upper Valley Press, February 2007

Philip Morris—And the guy who wore the suit had his clothes on. I’ll bet he had his billfold or keys in his pocket, because you can see a distortion in the suit from them.
—The Making of Bigfoot, p. 456
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But Ronald Hall, who’s been sewing the chest piece onto Morris suits since the Sixties, disagrees:
Roger Knights—Even in a tight-fitting suit, would such items as keys or a wallet show through?
Ronald Hall—No, because the material and hair on those suits was too thick.
Roger Knights—What size object might be detectable?
Ronald Hall—(Laughing) Maybe if there was a can in the pocket.
—Ronald Hall, proprietor of Austin Canvas and Awning, which sewed the chest piece onto Morris’s ape suits (see The Making of Bigfoot, p. 450), phone-interview with RK in 2004
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“Kerchak”—Can anyone explain how a wallet or car keys can make a bulge through a layer of street clothing, a pair of rubber waders, AND a fur suit? That’s three layers.
—posted on BFF (in “The Self-Contradictions of Bob Heironimus” (p. 12) 01 DEC 2011
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Again, I apologize if this is redundant. (I posted the Q and A with Ronald Hall long ago on BFF 1.0.)
 
wolftrax said:
For reasons I'll get into at another time, I find it EXTREMELY hard to believe he wore his clothes under the suit, especially since it wasn't the first time he wore it.
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I haven't read this whole thread, I just dipped in here for a few pages, following a link, so pardon me if this was hashed out later on. Here's what's said in TMOB:
Philip Morris—The guy who wore the suit must have had his clothes on because the suit was really tight on him.
—The Making of Bigfoot, p. 450
Greg Long—Bob Heironimus had told me he had kept his clothes on when he put on the suit! This was a powerful piece of evidence.
—The Making of Bigfoot, p. 450
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But I assume that Ronald Hall’s estimate that a 250-pound man could fit into a Morris suit (said during my phone interview of him in 2004) meant one who was clothed. I suspect that most of the carnies who wore the suit kept their clothes on too, so Heironimus’s doing so was nothing extraordinary. Taking clothes off would have been a time-waster and an annoyance (scratchy inside, maybe). And for what? The clothes actually were a plus, since they added gorilla-like bulk.
 
Yep, that's me (photo taken in 2009). I mentioned on that page that I liked to come up with humorous wordplay. Here are some real obscurities collected by others that I like to publicize, from a website devoted to them, conflations.com. (These are inadvertent mash-ups):
When the going gets tough, make lemonade.
The devil is in the pudding.
Put your nose to the wheel.
That's the way the cookie bounces.
Throw your towel in the ring.
Preaching to a dead horse.
To forgive is human; to forget, divine.
Nobody's human.
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