Ed Rob Menard's FOTL Claims

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BritPunk said:
YouTube removed the video from the WFS homepage? Did you consent to that?
The message clearly states CBC, no mention of YT. It appears to have been embedded in your site, not a YT link.
Is there really no communication between you and your admin?
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Do you not know how LINKS work? Sheesh... you are a waste of time.
 
BritPunk said:
Because you obviously do NOT understand basic concepts of law. I believe in looking at an argument from both sides. You only look at one.
And you claim you do not need to get into debt to go to school at that level.
So the question remains, why have you not taken advantage of this "fix" to get a free education?

Please be a little more consistent in your arguments.
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You mean concepts like EQUALITY?
 
FreemanMenard said:
$67.5 MILLION dollars worth of Student loans discharged in 2006. Been many more since then. All successfully too.
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You really aren't afraid of the big lie, are you?

And to be clear, the lie here is not that some large amount of student loans were discharged (don't have the exact amount at my fingertrips), the lie is that you personally or FOTLism generally had anything whatsover to do with it.

Taking personal credit for a government program - in this case the BC Government Student Loan Forgiveness Program - takes a really special kind of gall, especially from someone who claims to reject the government.

How do you tell yourself these whoppers and not come to despise yourself for your own mendacity?
 
FreemanMenard said:
Do you not know how LINKS work? Sheesh... you are a waste of time.
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Perhaps, but at least I haven't wasted other people's money on a package of old toot. Or wasted their opportunity to sort out their legal issues in a way that will leave them with their property and dignity intact.

And the message on your site, as mentioned before, makes no mention of YT, only CBC. How am I expected to know how your admin runs your site. Do you?
 
D'rok said:
So, Rob. Keith (Canadian Freeman in Court - WINS BIG) is in jail awaiting trial. Did he do it wrong or were the courts corrupt?
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No comment from our resident guru on the latest Freeman win?
 
Here are the facts about student loan forgiveness in BC circa 2006:

Murray Coell, B.C.'s Minister of Advanced Education, said the province's policy has been to put and keep tuition at near the national average. He said during the sharp tuition increases of a few years ago, the government increased the availability of loans, and is now forgiving some of the debts racked up during that time.

"Last year we forgave $65 million in student loans for approximately 25,000 students," he said. "What we want to do is reward people for achieving success in their studies."

http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/....html?id=e470d876-898e-4f2d-81bf-38a8582ac130
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Here is the current program:

http://www.aved.gov.bc.ca/studentaidbc/repay/repaymentassistance/loanforgiveness.htm


Funny...seems to be the government, not Menard or his minions, that we should thank for this.
 
FreemanMenard said:
I have no desire to discuss fashion with you. My clothes were clean, comfortable, warm, and the sweater has personal significance for me. People who know me know I am no slave to fashion.
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Interesting. Who's your press agent? Anyone worth their salt (perhaps literally salt in FMOTL-world) would've told you to forego a little bit of transient comfort in order to present an image of success that the foolishness of your words gainsays.

T'isn't a fashion comment. Like all things having to do with FMOTLism, it has to do with exhibiting something akin to the sense God gave a goat.

BTW, when can we expect your next national broadcaster interview? This I want to tape.

Fitz
 
FreemanMenard said:
I have no desire to discuss fashion with you. My clothes were clean, comfortable, warm, and the sweater has personal significance for me. People who know me know I am no slave to fashion.
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I'm going to do something unnatural and defend Rob. Rob's fashion choices are truely irrelevant to issues at hand.

Especially when it is his legal argument that is the subject and is truly so very flawed. In case you've ever wondered why we keep asking for that one case Bob, it is because you have made a legal argument - namely that you can withdraw your consent to be governed by statute law.

The test for anything is to see if it does as claimed. Doesn't matter if the claim is that water boils at 100^C, or if you can withdraw consent to be bound by statute law. In the case of water we apply heat and use a thermometer and in the case of FMOTL we see what the courts say. So far, freeman arguments have failed at every turn. You claim they haven't but can't clearly identify a court or case where they have been accepted. At this point having examined evidence we conclude that your legal argument holds no weight.

Normally, this would relegate you to "are you still here?" status, but the fact that you peddle this twaddle and may take in some poor sod who understands the words but not the meaning we will keep this going to ensure the facts are out there.

Now, given that had defend Rob, I must now go and cleanse myself.
 
The test for anything is to see if it does as claimed. Doesn't matter if the claim is that water boils at 100^C, or if you can withdraw consent to be bound by statute law. In the case of water we apply heat and use a thermometer and in the case of FMOTL we see what the courts say. So far, freeman arguments have failed at every turn. You claim they haven't but can't clearly identify a court or case where they have been accepted. At this point having examined evidence we conclude that your legal argument holds no weight. water
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:)
 
Border Reiver said:
I'm going to do something unnatural and defend Rob. Rob's fashion choices are truely irrelevant to issues at hand.
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Actually, it's more germane to the whole premise than all that.

The connection between dress and judgment by others is well-known, thoroughly documented and dissected. Even those with repellent viewpoints dress well to at least temporarily disarm the casual viewer. If Rob can't (or chooses not to) recognise such a well-known process, can one really believe that he has a grasp of legal esoterica that is supposed to humble professionals whose judgment is considered and knowledge acknowledged on matters of far greater import and weight than FMOTLism?

Fitz
 
Maybe Rob dresses like a tramp because thats his target audience, he wants to fit in and make them feel at home.

Go back up the thread to the two photos I posted of him, maybe the suit jacket just wasn't drawing enough thickos into his web.
 
BritPunk said:
****, that's a $1.00 stamp with my signature on it down the drain:eek::eek::eek:
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That's ok...you can still call yourself a postmaster, stick the stamp on your forehead, and travel as a parcel to Portugal for a nice holiday!

(link for the uninitiated)
 
fitzgibbon said:
Interesting. Who's your press agent? Anyone worth their salt (perhaps literally salt in FMOTL-world) would've told you to forego a little bit of transient comfort in order to present an image of success that the foolishness of your words gainsays.

T'isn't a fashion comment. Like all things having to do with FMOTLism, it has to do with exhibiting something akin to the sense God gave a goat.

BTW, when can we expect your next national broadcaster interview? This I want to tape.

Fitz
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Speaking as a trained and qualified employment adviser - The general rule is to dress as the level you aspire to be. If you want to be a manager, dress and present yourself as the managers do.

If you want to be a hobo in a van, dress like a hobo in a van.
As JB has shown, you did know this at one point, why have you given it up?
And didn't CBC give you any costume and make up facilities?
 
As JB has shown, you did know this at one point, why have you given it up?
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When he wore the suit he probably still believed it all himself, now he knows its garbage he may as well stop trying to attract anyone with any sense and just concentrate on the great unwashed elements of society.
It's a shame they don't have any money, he's sort of stuck in a 'catch 22' now.
 
Border Reiver said:
I'm going to do something unnatural and defend Rob. Rob's fashion choices are truely irrelevant to issues at hand.

Especially when it is his legal argument that is the subject and is truly so very flawed.
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I agree with you that it isn't a valid response to a legal claim - in fact, it's no better than the common freeman reply of "Well, you're just a shill/troll/agent of the government, so your argument is wrong." But you have to remember that Menard makes very few arguments that don't rely on his own personal claims and experience. At the core of almost everything he preaches is his assurance that he's already been there and already knows for a fact that it's true, and therefore anything that seems to contradict it must be false.

In this way, he opens himself up to attacks on his credibility and character. In the case of his dressing like a street bum, it sharply calls into question his methods of easily gaining financial success.
 
Wow, man I've just flashed on a far out concept - Mr Menard is actually a situtationist postmodern living installation art project,man. His precepts mean what they mean to you at the time of meaning and therefore can never be the responsibility of the artist him/herself!!! It's the new Duchamp, Warhol, McLaren & Westwood all rolled into one :D

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