Ed Rob Menard's FOTL Claims

[BaaBaa]

Development in the Keith Thompson story:

http://www.guelphmercury.com/news/local/article/681560--guelph-freeman-a-suspect-in-break-and-enter

His self-declared "victory" in court embolded him to stop paying his mortgage (and to this day he still brags about "getting" a judge to bow "to him"). His house was repossessed last month. He broke and entered it, placarding it with the usual talismans/notices, and he is now in jail.

What a winner. *Slow clap*

I posted this on my brothers' Fb, as he lives in Guelph. Turns out dudes' house is kittycorner from theirs....

" I have met him a couple of times seemed like a nice enough guy, kind of a granola type. "


Small freakin' world....

 

[D'rok]

Or here from Mr Menard :-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uL0revtwAVs

FFS.

Among other nonsense about how to avoid paying your bills, Menard is literally telling people that by signing a $1.00 Canadian stamp (something that does not exist in Canada), they can become the Postmaster General (an office that does not exist in Canada) and a teller of the Bank of Canada (a job that does not exist in Canada).

It really is like a black hole of stupid. So much idiocy concentrated in one place.

 

[jargon buster]

Wow, man I've just flashed on a far out concept - Mr Menard is actually a situtationist postmodern living installation art project,man. His precepts mean what they mean to you at the time of meaning and therefore can never be the responsibility of the artist him/herself!!! It's the new Duchamp, Warhol, McLaren & Westwood all rolled into one

Or maybe he's after a place in this list, he could actually be David Thorne (No5), his methods smack a little of Rob.

http://www.thinkdigit.com/Internet/Top-10-Trolls-in-Internet-History_3261.html

 

[Jon.]

a $1.00 Canadian stamp (something that does not exist in Canada)

Sure it does. There are two of them.

 

[X]

I would love to make my student loan magically disappear.
But wishful thinking does not financial security make.
I borrowed the money, I shall repay it.


Why does it seem that so much of Freemanism is trying to get out of paying for things already received? Personally, I call that theft (excluding extenuating circumstances rendering such repayment impossible).

 

[jargon buster]

Among other nonsense about how to avoid paying your bills, Menard is literally telling people that by signing a $1.00 Canadian stamp (something that does not exist in Canada), they can become the Postmaster General (an office that does not exist in Canada) and a teller of the Bank of Canada (a job that does not exist in Canada).

It really is like a black hole of stupid. So much idiocy concentrated in one place.

I did notice him say "I have some people trying this and they should be doing it by the time this video comes out"
Same old Rob, always the talker never the doer

 

[D'rok]

Sure it does. There are two of them.

Oops. My bad. However, there is definitely no Postmaster General of Canada nor does the Bank of Canada have tellers.

 

[fitzgibbon]

Wow, man I've just flashed on a far out concept - Mr Menard is actually a situtationist postmodern living installation art project,man. His precepts mean what they mean to you at the time of meaning and therefore can never be the responsibility of the artist him/herself!!! It's the new Duchamp, Warhol, McLaren & Westwood all rolled into one

DONATIONS ALWAYS WELCOME

You may be on to something. He's the anti-Humpty Dumpty. His words mean precisely what you want them to mean; neither more nor less.

Makes more sense than anything I've heard emanating from FMOTL²

Fitz

 

[Jon.]

Oops. My bad. However, there is definitely no Postmaster General of Canada nor does the Bank of Canada have tellers.

And here we see the difference between a skeptic and a FMOTL. (Hint: it's in the first three words.)

 

[abaddon]

WOW... I do not remember making that claim. Nor do I remember empowering D"Rok to speak for me.


But you go ahead, ask questions about me, and accept as truth the lies that others say about me.

Yes I do believe homonyms exist.

Of course, you will prefer to believe D'Rok, or anyone else who attacks me, for expressing ideas you do not hold. Right?

Why, no.

Explain why you claimed that a judicial order was the same as the court itself ordering toner cartridges.

Or else deny you said it.

You pick.

 

[TheRedWorm]

How do FOTLers stay out of jail?

NSFW

 

[Bishop]

I wonder how Clifford's "private prosecution" is coming along.

 

[TSR]

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So, you charge $800 for a DVD that says "look into your own heart, and act on what's there (and never mind the law)"?
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Several times.
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No because going to jail and and thereby becoming a prisoner of conscious was his goal.

Again, you tell people that they don't have to abide by laws because they do not apply to them.

Ghandi knew better, and went gladly. He did *not* say "I don't consent". He did not make up mumbo jumbo to justify his violation of that law. I don't even recal a single time that he plead anything but "guilty".

Do you see the difference?
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As above.
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Yes, you were exposed as a wack job.

Now, I've answered your questions, you answer mine: Ghandi did what he did despite the fact that he knew the law applied to him and so there would be consequences.

You claim the law does not apply to you in the first place. But are too timid to lead a demonstration of, let's say, a motorcade of transports which are unregistered, in which you travel unlicensed and without insurance, which you have spent time telling the press is going to happen at thus and such a time in thus and such a place.

Ghandi, you are not.

DO YOU SEE THE DIFFERENCE?
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Hey, Rob: you seem to have missed both saying"thank you" for answering your questions, and answering mine.

I'm sure this was just an oversight on your part which you will hasten to correct...
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[BritPunk]

I would love to make my student loan magically disappear.
But wishful thinking does not financial security make.
I borrowed the money, I shall repay it.


Why does it seem that so much of Freemanism is trying to get out of paying for things already received? Personally, I call that theft (excluding extenuating circumstances rendering such repayment impossible).

And how can they claim they act in honour in their contracts when so much of their time seems to be taken up with weaseling their way out of paying debts they voluntarily entered into?

 

[Horatius]

And how can they claim they act in honour in their contracts when so much of their time seems to be taken up with weaseling their way out of paying debts they voluntarily entered into?

Ah, but you see, they think they didn't enter into contracts "voluntarily", they think they were tricked into signing on behalf of their "strawman".

Or something.

I suspect a lot of this comes down to these guys just not being very bright, and not understanding exactly what having a mortgage or a car loan really means. How often have we seen them say things like, "Gee, over the course of the mortgage, you'll pay X times what the house was really worth!", as if no one had ever heard of compound interest, or amortization before. Or even as if online mortgage calculators weren't available. Heck, even the banks themselves will tell you exactly what you're paying back.

 

[arayder]

Rob,

Still waiting to hear your explanation for the hobo chic for your centre piece on the national broadcaster. Why not a suit to show of your fabulous FMOTL wealth? Hot medium; you squandered a golden opportunity. Surely you must've had your rationale; what was it?

Fitz

I have no desire to discuss fashion with you. My clothes were clean, comfortable, warm, and the sweater has personal significance for me. People who know me know I am no slave to fashion.

Interesting. Who's your press agent? Anyone worth their salt (perhaps literally salt in FMOTL-world) would've told you to forego a little bit of transient comfort in order to present an image of success that the foolishness of your words gainsays.

T'isn't a fashion comment. Like all things having to do with FMOTLism, it has to do with exhibiting something akin to the sense God gave a goat.

BTW, when can we expect your next national broadcaster interview? This I want to tape.

Fitz

Right you are.

Here Bobby uses his usual trick of diverting the discussion by pretending the subject of the discussion is fashion.

In fact the topic is his scruffy appearance as an indicator of the disheveled state of his brand of freemanism.

Furthermore, I consider his use of fezzes and berets to cover his balding head and oversized tunics and sweaters to cover his beer belly to be consistent with his attempts to deceive regarding freemanism in general.

 

[Hektor]

I have some sympathy for some people who have massive debt problems and turn to Freemanism out of desperation. I'm a middle class grad student. I have access to cheap credit and a scholarship. I also know how to budget and save. Unfortunately, a major gap in our education system is that many people, particularly those who are poor, don't have as firm an understanding on how debt works or how to budget, and those with poor credit ratings are sometimes forced to use payday loans rather than credit cards in an emergency.

Of course, probably what I find most offensive about Freemanism is that these people are told "this works" and will solve all their problems. If for some crazy way Rob's nonsense actually worked (and you know, he would have to provide actual evidence of it working) and it wasn't stealing like he claims, I would be hard pressed to not endorse choosing to be a Freeman-on-the-land rather than believing in credit counseling and other forms of education. Instead though, we have ample evidence that you can't pay your mortgage with your birth certificate. More offensive is that apart from "do your own due diligence" the Freeman seem more interested in using a desperate person to attempt to score a point rather than warning that person that they might lose their house, have their credit rating ruined, etc. Oh and Rob will throw them under the bus and claim "they did it wrong" without showing how to do it right.

 

[JLord]

Sure it does. There are two of them.

If those are the only $1 stamps in Canada they might become pretty valuable to freemen. It says they are collectors stamps as well. But I could see someone paying a high premium for a stamp that allows you to become postmaster and bank teller.

What if Rob has already stocked up on these stamps and the entire freeman nonsense was just part of a long con to make money in stamp collecting?

 

[arayder]

Why, no.

Explain why you claimed that a judicial order was the same as the court itself ordering toner cartridges.

Or else deny you said it.

You pick.

He’s already moved on to his latest rant in which social intercourse is the same as sexual intercourse, meaning being summoned to court is being raped.

I think our boy is going ‘round the bend.

 

[D'rok]

Lest we forget, a few weeks ago Menard promised The Big Reveal. Where is it? What happened to the new material that we were promised? Such a tease.