The Incredible odds of fulfilled bible prophecy

As others have already pointed out, the bible has stated that women's "compensation" for child-bearing is extreme pain during the process. So do you have another source that says that God decided to let women live a few years longer than the 120 year figure he gave for men in his infallible holy book?
Even if you found such a verse, what would that mean?
God punishes women with labor pains and then feels bad about it. So instead of removing labor pains, he lets them live longer...
Such a punishment/reward system is simultaneously reactionary, arbitrary and bizarre.

In other words, God sounds like Michael Scott from the Office.
 
Even if you found such a verse, what would that mean?
God punishes women with labor pains and then feels bad about it. So instead of removing labor pains, he lets them live longer...
Such a punishment/reward system is simultaneously reactionary, arbitrary and bizarre.

In other words, God sounds like Michael Scott from the Office.
Well, look at it this way: how many 120 year old women suffer labour pains?
 
Even if you found such a verse, what would that mean?
God punishes women with labor pains and then feels bad about it. So instead of removing labor pains, he lets them live longer...
Such a punishment/reward system is simultaneously reactionary, arbitrary and bizarre.

In other words, God sounds like Michael Scott from the Office.

Ricky Gervais from The Office.
 
As others have already pointed out, the bible has stated that women's "compensation" for child-bearing is extreme pain during the process.

Also periods seem to be covered by the Bible. Although the bible and biblical scholars seem to be all over the place on what exactly menstruation is. Some claim it's a product of being sexually active, others say it's a curse, some say it is proof of evil, others say it (as well as painful childbirth) is punishment resultant from original sin, etc.

DOC really needs to think his arguments through better.
 
To be fair the American The Office wasn't bad. They didn't bugger it up as they usually did when they rewrote British comedies. They actually did an American version of Fawlty Towers and wrote Basil Fawlty out of it! I once saw a bit of the American version of Red Dwarf. It was appalling.


I enjoy both versions of the Office equally well, I think. Jenna Fischer tends to make me appreciate the US version more than I might otherwise.

I saw the Farty Towels of which you speak and if there was such a thing as a mortal sin, that would be one.

I haven't seen it, but whoever thought an American Red Dwarf would be a good idea needs to take a long, hard look at himself and then die in a fire.
 
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I enjoy both versions equally well, I think.

I saw the Farty Towels of which you speak and if there was such a thing as a mortal sin, that would be one.

I haven't seen it, but whoever thought an American Red Dwarf would be a good idea needs to take a long, hard look at himself and then die in a fire.

If you Google youtube red dwarf comedy connections you can see a clip of the American version. Lister looks like a handsome hunk from Baywatch.
 
Maybe they were using chariots propelled by wind power.

And now I have a sudden mentle image of Adam Savage dressed as a Roman Centurian ridding his Segway... And I couldn't find the photo on the net for trying.
 
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Eeeewww.

For the record the oldest man was was 120 years. So I guess you can interpret that anyway you wish.

Maybe God let's women live longer as compensation for being the child bearers.

Right. Well, that's sorted then.:rolleyes:

Here's some more unfulfilled prophecies for DOC to explain, from
www.infidels.org/library/modern/theodore_drange/bible.html
1. According to Ge 2:17, Adam will die the same day that he eats the fruit, but that did not come about, since, according to Ge 5:5, Adam lived to age 930. [Note that the same Hebrew word for "die" is used as elsewhere in the Old Testament, standing for physical death.]

2. According to Ge 4:12,14, Cain will be a fugitive and a vagabond, and constantly subject to assassination, but that did not come about, for, according to Ge 4:16-17, Cain had a wife and family, and lived in the same area all his life, and built a city.

3. According to Jos 17:17-18, Ephraim and Manasseh will drive out the Canaanites, but according to Jg 1:27-29, they did not drive out the Canaanites.

4. Jer 34:5 prophesied that Zedekiah will die in peace, but according to 2Ki 25:7 and Jer 52:10-11, that did not happen. Instead, he saw his sons killed, was carried off in chains, blinded, and eventually died in prison.

5. Am 7:17 prophesied that Amaziah's sons will die by the sword, but according to 2Ch 26:1,21, Amaziah's son Uzziah died of leprosy.

6. According to Jon 3:4, Nineveh will be overthrown in 40 days, but then God changed his mind about having Nineveh overthrown. (See Jon 3:10.)

7. According to Mt 12:40, Christ will be buried for three nights, but he died on a Friday and by Sunday the tomb was empty. Between Friday and Sunday, there are just two nights, not three.

8. According to Mt 19:28 and Lu 22:30, all 12 disciples will sit on 12 thrones as judges. But actually, not all 12 disciples could reign, for Judas, who was one of them, was excluded. (See Mt 26:24-25.)

9. In Mt 26:34 and Lu 22:34, it is prophesied that before the cock crows, Peter will deny Jesus three times, but according to Mk 14:66-68, Peter denied Jesus only once before the cock crowed.

10. According to Lu 23:43, the thief will be with Christ in paradise on that very day. But Christ's body was buried that day and, according to Ac 2:27,31, his soul went to hell, not to paradise.

More will be said about Biblical contradictions in Sections D.4 and D.5, below. Some other examples that are a little more like unfulfilled prophecies are the following.

11. According to Ge 15:18, 17:3,8, and Dt 1:7-8, Abraham's descendants will own all the land between the Nile River and the Euphrates River, but it never happened: they never owned all that land. God broke his promise, as conceded in Ac 7:5 and Heb 11:13.

12. According to Ge 49:13, the tribe of Zebulun will dwell at a seashore, but, instead, as may be gathered from various later verses as well as extra-Biblical sources, they dwelled inland, not at any seashore.

13. According to Jos 8:28, the city of Ai will be destroyed forever. In actuality, Ai did have later inhabitants. (See Ezr 2:1,28 and Ne 7:32.)

But these still look a little bit like Biblical contradictions. I think the very best examples of unfulfilled prophecies are ones like the following.

14. According to Ex 3:8, the Israelites will live in a large land, flowing with milk and honey, and according to 2Sa 7:10, they will not be disturbed anymore, but as a matter of historical fact Israel (and vicinity) has been a relatively small and mostly barren land, and the Israelites have been continually harassed from all sides.

15. Many verses prophesy that the throne of David will endure forever and that there will never be a time without a man upon that throne. But in point of historical fact, the Davidic line of kings ended with Zedekiah. 450 yrs. later, the Maccabeans had a brief reign. But for 2000 years, there has been no Davidic king.

16. According to Isa 14:23, Babylon will become wet, but that never happened. According to Jer 51:36, Babylon will become totally dry, but that never happened either. According to other verses, [11] Babylon will never be inhabited by people again, but in fact Babylon has been continually inhabited by people since that time. [Note 1Pe 5:13.] It is now part of Iraq.

17. According to Isa 17:1, Damascus will be destroyed, but in fact Damascus is one of the few ancient cities that has never been destroyed. [The fact that so many were destroyed makes prophecies of the future destruction of ancient cities rather unremarkable.] If Isaiah had predicted that Damascus would never be destroyed, then that would have been remarkable.

18. According to Isa 19:5, Eze 30:12, and Zec 10:11, the Nile River will dry up, and according to Eze 29:9-12, Egypt will become desolate for 40 years, with no man or animal passing through it and with all Egyptians dispersed, but as a matter of fact the Nile River has never dried up and in the whole history of Egypt no such calamitous events have ever occurred.

19. According to Isa 19:18, five Egyptian cities will speak the language of Canaan, but linguists and archeologists assure us that no Egyptian cities have ever spoken the language of Canaan.

20. According to Isa 29:17, Lebanon will become a fruitful field, but that has never happened to Lebanon!

21. According to Isa 34:9-10, Edom (the land between the Dead Sea and Gulf of Aqaba) will become burning pitch: no one will ever pass through it again. But in truth that has never happened to Edom. People have passed through it for thousands of years.

22. According to Isa 52:1, the uncircumcised and unclean will never enter Jerusalem, but in fact such people have continually entered Jerusalem for thousands of years.

23. According to Jer 42:17, Jews who choose to live in Egypt will all die and leave no remnant. But history shows that Jews continued to live there for centuries, later establishing a cultural center at Alexandria.

24. Zep 3:13 prophesied that the remnant of Israel will not sin or lie or be afraid, but in truth they were never so moral nor so fearless.

25. Many verses [12] prophesy that Christ's second coming will occur soon. Some of them specifically say that it will be within his listeners' lifetime, i.e., before that generation (there with Jesus) passes away. But in truth more than 19 centuries have elapsed since then and the event still has not occurred. Of all the examples of unfulfilled prophecies, this one strikes me as the one that is clearest and most powerful.

Sorry if this is list already posted up!
 
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What I wonder is this, If there was a prophecy in the Bible that said: "DOC has to jump off a cliff tomorrow", would you do it?

Prophecies are rarely if ever that specific. It would read:

And on the 7th day a man shall leap into a vast chasm and then make in my honor a dish of grilled meat, So I have spoken so it shall be. : Nay-Sayer 14:55
 

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