Of course it is my point, what do you think "Lost Bird" is all about
No it wasn't, Patrick.
Once again, you are caught in one of your many lies, not to mention a huge mistake that demonstrates again just how careless you are in your "research."
By the way, when are you going to put up or shut up?
Of course it is my point, what do you think "Lost Bird" is all about AdMan? It was my first big insight in terms of the Apollo Fraud mechanism, its nefarious machinations, the Armstrong/Moore interview giving me my first insight into the reality of the fraud per se. Lost Bird is all about the astronauts being threatened in the real-time context of the mission were their coordinates known with accuracy during the real-time of the simulated missions themselves.
If Houston says, "Hey McDonald Observatory!!!, shine the blue green argon laser at 00 41' 15" north, 00 23' 26" east" , if the coordinates are known with accuracy in real-time and assuming it to be dark in Texas at the time the go ahead signal to shine the argon light is given, well then, the astronauts are busted big fat time, because they should be able to see the argon light, video it as did Surveyor 7 video/image the argon light from even weaker lasers in January of 1968.
If instead of at 00 41'15" north and 23 26' 00" east, the Apollo 11 boys floated a bit west of there to let's say the "CAT"S PAW", then were the mission real, they would have been instructed to photo and video this that and the other thing in real time, instructed explicitly to show the geologists back home CAT"S PAW RELEVANT LANDMARKS. AND THEY WOULD HAVE, PHOTOGRAPHED REAL-TIME RELEVANT LANDMARKS IN REAL-TIME, PERHAPS EVEN CONSTELLATION PATTERNS WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN USEFUL, INTERESTING, BEAUTIFUL, ARTISTIC, WERE ANY OF THIS GENUINE, WHICH IT IS NOT. Ditto for the Apollo 12 situation and in a very real sense every one of the other missions.
I will get to "Losing the Bird" in the other cases soon enough. I am still mopping cislunar space with Kranz's stanky vest and enjoying it too much to move on quite yet. But the pattern is clear. The PRECISE destination is FOREORDAINED/PREDETERMINED YET UNKNOWN IN REAL-TIME, A DESTINATION DEFINED!!! AND YET NOT FOUND, AND ONE DEFINED INDEPENDENT OF ANY REAL CHANCE FOR LUNAR LANDSCAPE MODIFICATION/IMPROVISATION.
"Lost Bird" only makes sense as a game for perps to play when the astronauts are up in space, rather pretending to be there, pretending to be on the moon.
There is no significance to "losing the bird" back here with the astronauts on earth. Once here, they are no longer vulnerable to being discovered as the thespians they are, and bad ones at that.
Why do you think the thread was/is entitled LOST BIRD AdMan, are you saying I was pointing out the absurdity of hiding the bird outside the context of the REAL TIME DRAMA of the missions? OF course you are welcome to your views, any views, about my points and Apollo in general. But if you misunderstand me here, you misunderstand EVERYTHING I have been writing about in a sense for my last 2500 posts. If I am "lying", as you seem to be fond of claiming, then you have been arguing against a point I made, the point's correctness not relevant here, about which you do not understand anything. To say I am "lying" here is to say you do not even understand my basic claim. Seems rather ridiculous to me, but suite yourself.
This is my claim to fame AdMan, what shall make me famous, LOST BIRD. If you think I am "lying" you have not understood a word I have written. My being unaware of Armstrong's photographing a mock up of LITTLE WEST CRATER with a 70 mm camera was an excellent and valid point by Erock, but it hardly undoes my work here, and the power of the theme. This theme is grounded in NASA's own reports, the MISSION REPORT, THE VOICE TRANSCRIPT, THE LAM-2 MAP(DoD created and fraudulent), THE APPROACH MAP(DoD created and fraudulent), and gathers powerful support from one non NASA document, the testimony(TRENCH BOOK CHAPTER) of H.David Reed, the NASA launch FIDO for the Eagle's lunar surface simulated launch.
Erock totally nailed me on that point AdMan, and credit to him where credit is due. He got me good. I appreciate Erock's talent in this debate, what he brings to it, very much. But so what as well? Erock's most excellent point does not invalidate LOST BIRD and I move on now with this fact that Erock helped me to learn.
As I mentioned previously, every mistake I have made here has lead to something helpful for me, for MY SIDE. The best case in point has been the Julian Coordinate thing leading to the truth with regard to the Department of Defense Map Makers creating the fraudulently marked LAM-2 flown map of Michael Collins and the fraudulent approach map as well. This has been by far my biggest win by way of learning from a mistake, though I am sure there will be others, all the bigger as I go along.
