Larry Silverstein explaining what he meant by 'pull it'

KreeL said:
I am simply pointing out, that explosive evidence, such as the recently released NIST video of the collapse of 7, where you hear the boom, and then the penthouse disappears, and the account from Barry about his experience inside 7, that to simply rule out explosives because there isn't a picture of one is simply not smart. When you see cause and effect, you can reasonably theorize that explosives were indeed used.
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The accounts of Barry Jennings inside WTC 7 prove without a doubt that explosive devices were not used to demolish WTC 7.

Period.

Get a new hobby, boy.
 
KreeL said:
Barry attests that this explosion was before the collapse of the twin towers.
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Impossible. When he and Hess broke out a window to get air and call for help, they saw:

1) swirling clouds of dust and paper
2) burning cars and emergency vehicles

The ONLY explanation for this scene is that WTC 1 and 2 had collapsed already.
Prior to the collapses the streets and surrounding air column were not in that state. Any claim to the contrary is patently false and/or an outright lie. It doesn't matter which..

We know you're trolling, but you're also antagonistic to reality itself - reality confirms you're trolling. :D
 
KreeL said:
I am simply pointing out, that explosive evidence, such as the recently released NIST video of the collapse of 7, where you hear the boom, and then the penthouse disappears,
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Complete bullcrap. You have no idea how sad your are to repeat these anti-truths.

The controlled demolition hypothesis, as outlined by you, is not a reasonable idea - it is a malicious and false claim intended to shift the blame from those who are actually responsible for the attacks onto others who are not.
 
alienentity said:
Impossible. When he and Hess broke out a window to get air and call for help, they saw:

1) swirling clouds of dust and paper
2) burning cars and emergency vehicles

The ONLY explanation for this scene is that WTC 1 and 2 had collapsed already.
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We know AlienEntity has seen the video where the firefighters have to leave Jennings and Hess trapped in the building while building One comes down, and then they come back. So J & H's call for help came, at the very least, before the collapse of WTC 1 (and most likely before even that).

Look at a map of the WTC complex and tell us how debris from WTC 2's destruction blew out floors in WTC 7.
 
ergo said:
We know AlienEntity has seen the video where the firefighters have to leave Jennings and Hess trapped in the building while building One comes down, and then they come back. So J & H's call for help came, at the very least, before the collapse of WTC 1 (and most likely before even that).

Look at a map of the WTC complex and tell us how debris from WTC 2's destruction blew out floors in WTC 7.
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Nope. Unless you can provide the video (which you won't, because there is no such footage) your words mean nothing.

I am providing video which has both Jennings and Hess describing the scene in clear, irrefutable terms. Something you cannot do to support your claim.

Also, note the testimony of EMT Nicole Ferrell:
' I believe it was 7. Maybe it was 5. It was
at the back end of it because I do remember the
telephone company. So I think it was the back end of
7, I think right over here at that point, and they
couldn't get out. Then I had ran down the block and I
flagged a ladder company and they brought the ladder,
which they had like a vestibule that you couldn't like
really reach the people because the ladder wouldn't
reach. So they went and got other resources, they went
inside the building, and I told my partner that it
wasn't safe and that we need to go because everything
around us was like falling apart.'

And in the words of Jennings and Hess:
 
The final nail in the coffin for the truther lie about Jennings and Hess is a very simple (and again irrefutable) piece of video evidence which was released recently under FOIA.

Note that it was released AFTER the truther myth had already taken root; yet both KreeL and Ergo cling to the original myth unmodified by reality, and impervious to facts.

The footage shows Hess yelling out of a window, on the North face of WTC 7, close to the E corner. It was impossible for him or Jennings to see either of the towers from that window.
Needless to add, the footage is taken AFTER the tower collapses..... just as Hess and Jennings described.

 
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alienentity said:
The footage shows Hess yelling out of a window, on the North face of WTC 7, close to the E corner. It was impossible for him or Jennings to see either of the towers from that window.
Needless to add, the footage is taken AFTER the tower collapses..... just as Hess and Jennings described.
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After tower 2 collapses. I asked you to describe how debris from tower 2 blew out floors in WTC 7, trapping Jennings and Hess.

But it doesn't matter. AE, a five-year-old can figure this out. Jennings arrived at WTC 7 after the first plane hit WTC 1 and before the second plane impact. Between 8:46 and 9:03 am. When he and Hess got up to the 23rd floor, they called around and were told to get the hell out of there. WTC 2 fell at 9:59 am, and WTC 1 at 10:28. What kept them in the building for almost an hour and half before WTC 1 fell? Use your head.
 
ergo said:
After tower 2 collapses. I asked you to describe how debris from tower 2 blew out floors in WTC 7, trapping Jennings and Hess.

But it doesn't matter. AE, a five-year-old can figure this out. Jennings arrived at WTC 7 after the first plane hit WTC 1 and before the second plane impact. Between 8:46 and 9:03 am. When he and Hess got up to the 23rd floor, they called around and were told to get the hell out of there. WTC 2 fell at 9:59 am, and WTC 1 at 10:28. What kept them in the building for almost an hour and half before WTC 1 fell? Use your head.
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Again, you disregard the facts. When Jennings broke out the window (on the North side), he immediately saw many burning emergency vehicles and cars and buses.
This happened AFTER WTC 1 collapsed, not before. This is not speculation, it's fact.

None of your core myths and subsequent obfuscation can change reality. You can hide within your fantasies, but that's all they are - they simply do not account for the facts on the ground. Period.

ps, even in my video I've included footage of the lobby and street around WTC 7 just after the collapse of WTC 2. There is no evidence of burning buses, cars or firetrucks.

Please show us a video, or still footage, of the North side of WTC 7, before the collapse of WTC 1 which shows such burning vehicles as seen on post WTC 1 collapse footage. You cannot do this because it doesn't exist. Your myth does not square with reality. And it never will. The smart thing to do is to abandon the false myth and accept reality.
 
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Whatever point you think you're making about the North side windows is completely nonsensical and irrelevant.

What trapped Jennings and Hess in the first place if WTC 1 hadn't fallen yet? What time are you proposing they arrived at the building??
 
ergo said:
Whatever point you think you're making about the North side windows is completely nonsensical and irrelevant.

What trapped Jennings and Hess in the first place if WTC 1 hadn't fallen yet? What time are you proposing they arrived at the building??
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Why are you so sure the south tower had not collapsed? Are you saying Jennings could not be wrong? The timeline seems to suggest otherwise.
 
Jennings 'I saw police cars on fire, buses on fire'

Hess said he was looking North and West, and couldn't see the towers, but in his mind they were still there.

Again, none of these trolls or truthers will be able to supply a picture of Barclay st with scores of burning vehicles before WTC 1 collapses. But the FOIA footage shows this perfectly.... AFTER WTC 1 collapsed.

There is no gap in our information, there is no confusion. Reality is clear.

But the myth survives......
 
ergo said:
Whatever point you think you're making about the North side windows is completely nonsensical and irrelevant.

What trapped Jennings and Hess in the first place if WTC 1 hadn't fallen yet? What time are you proposing they arrived at the building??
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False. It is exactly relevant to Jennings' claim that he saw the towers fall. He clearly could not have.

There was NO WAY for him to know whether WTC 1 had collapsed or not. He made an assumption. Further, we can use video and photo evidence to determine what time it was when Hess and Jennings first looked out onto Barclay st.
We can prove, without doubt, that the burning vehicles were only seen after WTC 1 had collapsed.


Your question about what 'trapped Jennings and Hess' is based on the false assumption that WTC 1 had not collapsed. But in fact it had.
Therefore your question is irrelevant to what actually happened. At best it is a red herring.
 
ergo said:
Whatever point you think you're making about the North side windows is completely nonsensical and irrelevant.

What trapped Jennings and Hess in the first place if WTC 1 hadn't fallen yet? What time are you proposing they arrived at the building??
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You answered your own question. WTC 1 did collapse. That is what trapped them.
 
NoahFence said:
You answered your own question. WTC 1 did collapse. That is what trapped them.
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It's strange that he asks me what time I think events happened when I've just provided him with MY OWN VIDEO, complete with timeline of events.

Comprehension is obviously not a strong suit.....
 
alienentity said:
Your question about what 'trapped Jennings and Hess' is based on the false assumption that WTC 1 had not collapsed. But in fact it had.
Therefore your question is irrelevant to what actually happened. At best it is a red herring.
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:eye-poppi

So in the half hour between WTC 2's collapse and WTC 1's collapse, what the hell were they doing in building 7? Why didn't they leave, as they had been told to do?
 
ergo said:
:eye-poppi

So in the half hour between WTC 2's collapse and WTC 1's collapse, what the hell were they doing in building 7? Why didn't they leave, as they had been told to do?
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Better listen to Barry tell you. You never listened to Barry? Why ask a question Barry already answered. Looks like you know as much about Barry, as you do Physics. Nothing.

They were stuck, praying under a desk. But listen to Barry, and come up with your take. Good luck, maybe you can do better listening to Barry than you do with physics. good luck

WTC 7 was damaged by the collapsing towers, and Barry confirmed that. Barry found the ground floor damaged by the towers that collapsed. You don't try to do your own research, you troll and post nonsense.
 
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ergo said:
:eye-poppi

So in the half hour between WTC 2's collapse and WTC 1's collapse, what the hell were they doing in building 7? Why didn't they leave, as they had been told to do?
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I am going to go with, they were 23 floors up, the building was falling down around them (stated in an earlier post), and Jennings stated multiple times that there was debris in the hallway. At one point he was knocked to the ground. There could be several explanations, none that have anything to do with controlled demolition.

Clearly pointed out in this thread. Explosions were explosions, but not explosives. The explosives wouldn't live through the events that transpired. If the explosions were explosives then the building wouldn't have stayed up as long as it did. Fact.
 
plague311 said:
I am going to go with, they were 23 floors up, the building was falling down around them (stated in an earlier post), and Jennings stated multiple times that there was debris in the hallway.
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So Plague 311 thinks they arrived at building 7 shortly before WTC 2 fell, which would be shortly before 9:59am, a full hour and 14 minutes after the first tower was struck, and a good 50 minutes after everyone realized this was a terrorist attack. That's when they decided to go to the OEM.

The call to evacuate building 7 came at ____ am, but Jennings and Hess were in there anyway, even though the emergency headquarters had been moved.

They were on floor 23 and WTC 2 was "falling down around them" and debris knocked out some floors and they couldn't get out.

Look at a map. How did debris from WTC 2 knock out floors in building 7?
 
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