On 9/11, WTC7 Collapse Was Firemen's Concern (controlled demolition debunked)

[twinstead]

Steel regains it's strength. Wait, isn't that what I said?

Is that your final answer? Are you saying that any strength steel loses due to heat, when that heat is removed, it regains the strength it lost?

 

[332nd]

Steel regains it's strength. Wait, isn't that what I said?

Yeah that's what you said. Now then, ignoring for the moment the fact that the fires were still going, how does the steel regain regain its strength?

 

[KreeL]

Yeah that's what you said. Now then, ignoring for the moment the fact that the fires were still going, how does the steel regain regain its strength?

Intense fire in the impact zone. We all saw it. We also failed to see it anymore 15 minutes later. What happened to it? It moved on. It consumed the tinder in the area and moved. Like any normal fire does. Once it moved, the steel regained it's strength as it cooled. Indeed, we see an office worker leaning on it a short time after. She was waving, not jumping. Why? Because the fire moved on.

The fire wasn't magic on 9/11. Neither was the steel.

 

[TJM]

She was waving, not jumping. Why? Because the fire moved on.

She did jump.

 

[332nd]

Intense fire in the impact zone. We all saw it. We also failed to see it anymore 15 minutes later. What happened to it? It moved on. It consumed the tinder in the area and moved. Like any normal fire does. Once it moved, the steel regained it's strength as it cooled. Indeed, we see an office working leaning on it a short time after. She was waving, not jumping. Why? Because the fire moved on.

The fire wasn't magic on 9/11. Neither was the steel.

Explain how steel regains its strength after it cools.

 

[KreeL]

She perished in the collapse. She didn't jump.

 

[TJM]

She perished in the collapse. She didn't jump.

Wrong.

 

[KreeL]

Explain how steel regains its strength after it cools.

Tempering comes to mind. Steel does regain it's strength as it cools.

 

[NoahFence]

Tempering comes to mind. Steel does regain it's strength as it cools.

You think that happens within minutes???

 

[332nd]

Tempering comes to mind. Steel does regain it's strength as it cools.

No, were are talking about the steel frame of the towers & WTC 7. How would it regain its strength after the fire went out?

 

[Edx]

Tempering comes to mind. Steel does regain it's strength as it cools.

STEEL AT FULL STRENGTH!!!

ONCE THE FIRE GOES OUT THIS WILL RETURN TO FULL STRENGTH!!!!

 

[KreeL]

Since the WTC was a giant heatsink. Yes. It happened within minutes of the fire passing by. The problem your theory faces is that you claim the steel weakened in the tremendous energy release from the onset of the impact. This is simply not true. The mouth on the wound in the either tower never 'closed'. The steel analyzed by NIST showed lower temperatures than anyone here is stating as fact.

The real fact is this is all conjecture on your part to bolster your theory. Bazant's theory (where this springs from) was also based on conjecture. No proof whatsoever. Zip, nada, zilch. This is what you have to live with.

 

[332nd]

Since the WTC was a giant heatsink. Yes. It happened within minutes of the fire passing by. The problem your theory faces is that you claim the steel weakened in the tremendous energy release from the onset of the impact. This is simply not true. The mouth on the wound in the either tower never 'closed'. The steel analyzed by NIST showed lower temperatures than anyone here is stating as fact.

The real fact is this is all conjecture on your part to bolster your theory. Bazant's theory (where this springs from) was also based on conjecture. No proof whatsoever. Zip, nada, zilch. This is what you have to live with.

Uh-huh... What did the NIST say the temperatures were? Then you can finally explain how the steel regained its strength.

Eta bolded: BWAAAAAAHAHAH! So not only did the steel regain its strength after the fire (that was still going) but it didn't weaken after a jetliner crashed through it!

 

[KreeL]

It reformed? Oh my, redtail, you are grasping at straws now, brother.

 

[332nd]

It reformed? Oh my, redtail, you are grasping at straws now, brother.

How else could a plane hit it and not weaken it?

Oh, & explain how the steel could regain its strength. Stop running from the question.

 

[KreeL]

How else could a plane hit it and not weaken it?

Oh, & explain how the steel could regain its strength. Stop running from the question.

Your question does not make sense, redtail. Please re-word it. Are you saying steel does not regain it's strength when cooling? Please explain.

 

[Edx]

Your question does not make sense, redtail. Please re-word it. Are you saying steel does not regain it's strength when cooling? Please explain.

Hay Kree, I posted some pictures above, didja see them? Do you think the steel looks like it will be fine when its cooled?

 

[KreeL]

While it is cooling it's regaining strength. Yes, I believe that. How do you think they made steel blades? They heated the steal, shaped it, cooled it, and like magic it's strong again. I think you missed the point, buddy.

 

[TJM]

While it is cooling it's regaining strength. Yes, I believe that. How do you think they made steel blades? They heated the steal, shaped it, cooled it, and like magic it's strong again. I think you missed the point, buddy.

What are your steel blades supporting while they're being heated.?

 

[332nd]

Your question does not make sense, redtail. Please re-word it. Are you saying steel does not regain it's strength when cooling? Please explain.

Stop dancing around the fact we are talking about the steel in the WTC. Stop trying to make it seem as if I & others are talking about any steel any where. Explain how the steel in the towers & 7 would regain its strength after there was no more fire.

Oh, & since you brought it up, explain how steel doesn't weaken after a jetliner crashes through it.