Triumph of the Bigoted, Intolerant Left: Buchanan Fired

[Upchurch]

Ever hear of a concept called "inciting to riot?"

Yes, but "inciting to riot" is not a political position nor, as A Laughing Baby pointed out, is that what Buchanan doing.

 

[leftysergeant]

Then back up your earlier claim by showing how what Buchanan wrote crosses the line into incitement to riot or other criminalized hate speech, instead of just being his usual appeal to bigotry stuff.

He's what William Pierce called a "legal." A propogandist promoting the aggenda of the Organization, while pretending not to.

 

[TimCallahan]

This is what the CREDO site, one of those asking that Buchanan be fired, said of him (hilites added):

Buchanan has just published a book which says that increasing racial diversity is a threat to this country and will mean the "End of White America."1 To promote his book, he went on a white supremacist radio show whose host has said things like "MLK's dream is our nightmare," and "interracial sex is white genocide."2

 

[Biscuit]

The Illuminati aren't talking. Perhaps the Reptilian Overlords might be willing to say something...

We can probably trace this all they way the gay agenda!

In case anyone is wondering the hierarchy from least to most important goes

the left, the rabid left, bigoted left, intolerant left, bigoted and intolerant left, rabid bigoted intolerant left, lamestream media, illuminati, reptilian overlords, gay agenda.

 

[Ladewig]

Whose tradition?
Whose morals?
Whose values?

Jeez, haven't you been paying attention? The morals and traditions of white, heterosexual, Christian (but not Mormon and only a few Roman Catholics), American males whose ancestors immigrated to the U.S. from the "good" European countries before 1920. Although to put an even finer point on it, from Mr. Robertson's perspective, we are talking about people born before 1945.

 

[TimCallahan]

This is what the CREDO site, one of those asking that Buchanan be fired, said of him (hilites added):

Buchanan has just published a book which says that increasing racial diversity is a threat to this country and will mean the "End of White America."1 To promote his book, he went on a white supremacist radio show whose host has said things like "MLK's dream is our nightmare," and "interracial sex is white genocide."2

Also, look at Laedwig's post #5 and Upchurch's post #29 for other outrageous things Buchanan has said.

 

[Ladewig]

We can probably trace this all they way the gay agenda!

In case anyone is wondering the hierarchy from least to most important goes

the left, the rabid left, bigoted left, intolerant left, bigoted and intolerant left, rabid bigoted intolerant left, lamestream media, illuminati, reptilian overlords, gay agenda.

Wait. Where does "Kenyan usurper" fit into the mix?

Also, shouldn't the atheists and their agenda be somewhere in there? Actually, I am guessing not. Atheists, Jews and Muslims can simply be lumped into the category of people who hate Jesus.

 

[Minoosh]

... Atheists, Jews and Muslims can simply be lumped into the category of people who hate Jesus.

And maybe Mormons too, their Jesus is weird. At any rate they're "obviously not Christians" according to Fox.

ETA: Oh, I see you already included (i.e. excluded) Mormons. My bad.

 

[Upchurch]

This is what the CREDO site, one of those asking that Buchanan be fired, said of him (hilites added):

Buchanan has just published a book which says that increasing racial diversity is a threat to this country and will mean the "End of White America."1 To promote his book, he went on a white supremacist radio show whose host has said things like "MLK's dream is our nightmare," and "interracial sex is white genocide."2

link?

 

[crimresearch]

He's what William Pierce called a "legal." A propogandist promoting the aggenda of the Organization, while pretending not to.

A legal criminal. That's a really useful concept for rational analysis of real life issues...

 

[crimresearch]

So again, has anyone got any evidence that Buchanan was actually fired, instead of just flouncing when told he couldn't air his garbage book on their dime?

 

[Biscuit]

So again, has anyone got any evidence that Buchanan was actually fired, instead of just flouncing when told he couldn't air his garbage book on their dime?

From his "woe is me" letter that prey linked to I got the impression that MSNBC decided not to renew his contract. Which is, of course, the same thing as violating his first amendment rights.

Nowhere do I see Pat or MSNBC saying he was fired.

 

[JoeTheJuggler]

Ever hear of a concept called "inciting to riot?"

Yes. And it is easily distinguished from "stating a political position".

In fact, the test to deem a speech act "incitement" (not just to riot but to commit any illegal act) is a very very strict one described in the Brandenburg v. Ohio decision. (In that case, a KKK leader publicly calling for violence against blacks, Jews and anyone who supports them was deemed NOT to be a crime but to be speech protected under the First Amendment.)

To be incitement, there has to be the intention of causing imminent (not eventual or at some vague time) illegal action, and there has to be an actual likelihood of it doing so. (That is, three elements-- intention, imminence and likelihood-- all have to be present.)

 

[Biscuit]

The very idea of consumers coming together to put collective pressure on a company to do or not do something just reeks of socialism! For those same consumers to go after the advertisers that make that product possible is communist at the very least!

I honestly don't understand how the voices of MSNBC's viewers working together to inform MSNBC of what they do and don't want to watch is anything other than free market apple pie americana.

 

[JoeTheJuggler]

So again, has anyone got any evidence that Buchanan was actually fired, instead of just flouncing when told he couldn't air his garbage book on their dime?

From his "woe is me" letter that prey linked to I got the impression that MSNBC decided not to renew his contract. Which is, of course, the same thing as violating his first amendment rights.

Nowhere do I see Pat or MSNBC saying he was fired.

Wow--so the "fired" allegation was just a creation of Robert Prey?

 

[leftysergeant]

To be incitement, there has to be the intention of causing imminent (not eventual or at some vague time) illegal action, and there has to be an actual likelihood of it doing so. (That is, three elements-- intention, imminence and likelihood-- all have to be present.)

There are armed formations training up for the mission now.

 

[JoeTheJuggler]

There are armed formations training up for the mission now.

What does that mean?

The point at which a speech act becomes incitement to commit an illegal act it is no longer anything that might be called "stating a political position".

 

[madfoot]

There are armed formations training up for the mission now.

 

[Biscuit]

Wow--so the "fired" allegation was just a creation of Robert Prey?

Every story I read says "parted ways" and nothing about being fired so until robert of the family prey can back up his claim in the threads title I am going to go ahead and say he made it up.

Probably because he hates the freedom of the press.

 

[A Laughing Baby]

Conspiracy theory forum is the one ABOVE this one. It's easy to get confused.