Triumph of the Bigoted, Intolerant Left: Buchanan Fired

Upchurch said:
The problem is, Robert, that the "moral" values you are in favor of are not traditional for everyone nor are they particularly moral. They would be more accurately described, perhaps, as evangelical moral values. (I would argue fanatical or extremist evangelical moral values, but I digress.)

For example, they are not even traditional for the GOP.
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You're not using Robert's definition of 'traditional morals'. For Robert, 'traditional morals' are morals that he agrees with.
 
Spindrift said:
You're not using Robert's definition of 'traditional morals'. For Robert, 'traditional morals' are morals that he agrees with.
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And the left needs to be tolerant towards intolerance, as well as not being bigoted towards bigots.

Or something.
 
Robert Prey said:

Buchanan Fired. Leftist Tyranny Triumphant
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There's a guy, lives not far from relatives, whose lawn is always emblazoned with about 15-20 protest signs proclaiming all manner of hatred of Obama, the left, Democrats (and their party), as well as those lauding the right, the USA, patriotism, the Consititution...well, you get the idea (and I'm not exaggerating even a little). The best part is how, if you look carefully, you can see, tucked alongside his house, a confederate flag affixed to his fence. No, this is not in any southern state.

Now, who knows why such a deep-thinker, convinced as he is by his cause, would be so timid with respect to the one display. I find it funny.

Oh, Mr. P? Care to share your address? Wouldn't it be a happy coincidence?
 
There is a point at which stating a political position becomes a crime, and that doddering old racist twit is sticking his toe across it and complaining when people tell him not to go there.

The howling monkey is giving aid and comfort to domestic terrorists by trying to convince people that they have a right to rise up and demand an end to multiculturalism. The demand is occassionally delivered in the same package with a charge of ANFO and a few pounds of nails.

That gravelly-voice fascist is really pushing that line of yelling "FIRE" in a theater.

If that drooling moron knew half as much as he mistakenly thinks he knows about world history, he would know that no culture that preserved its own culture against all outside influence ever amounted to much of anything.

Right now, we are trying to disengage ourselves from a war with a bunch of spear-chuckers who do not want outsiders coming into their country and bringing in new cultural concepts.

Maybe the ranting psychopath should take a look at what used to be Yugoslavia. Same racial group, same language, and they have been knocking each other in the head over religious differences for centuries.

Don't let the your coat tails hit your ass on the way out, Pat.
 
leftysergeant said:
There is a point at which stating a political position becomes a crime
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Not in this country, there isn't. There may things done in the pursuit of a political position that may be criminal, but stating a political position will never be one of them. That's just flat out wrong.
 
This isn't even an issue of "leftists reigning supreme" because it has nothing to do with leftist ideology. It has to do with an asshat getting his just desserts.
 
Robert Prey said:

Buchanan Fired. Leftist Tyranny Triumphant

My days as a political analyst at MSNBC have come to an end.

After 10 enjoyable years, I am departing, after an incessant clamor from the left that to permit me continued access to the microphones of MSNBC would be an outrage against decency, and dangerous.

The calls for my firing began almost immediately with the Oct. 18 publication of "Suicide of a Superpower: Will America Survive to 2025?"

A group called Color of Change, whose mission statement says that it "exists to strengthen Black America's political voice," claimed that my book espouses a "white supremacist ideology." Color of Change took particular umbrage at the title of Chapter 4, "The End of White America."

Media Matters parroted the party line: He has blasphemed!

A Human Rights Campaign that bills itself as America's leading voice for lesbians, bisexuals, gays and transgendered people said that Buchanan's "extremist ideas are incredibly harmful to millions of LBGT people around the world."


http://www.creators.com/conservative/pat-buchanan.html
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That full letter is a load of nonsense! How is his first amendment right being denied? MSNBC is a business and their customers no longer wish to listen to Pat so MSNBC, as a private company, chooses to no longer have him on the air. Its called business and I guess Pat is bad for it.
 
Lowpro said:
This isn't even an issue of "leftists reigning supreme" because it has nothing to do with leftist ideology. It has to do with an asshat getting his just desserts.
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Biscuit said:
That full letter is a load of nonsense! How is his first amendment right being denied? MSNBC is a business and their customers no longer wish to listen to Pat so MSNBC, as a private company, chooses to no longer have him on the air. Its called business and I guess Pat is bad for it.
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^ These.
 
Biscuit said:
That full letter is a load of nonsense! How is his first amendment right being denied? MSNBC is a business and their customers no longer wish to listen to Pat so MSNBC, as a private company, chooses to no longer have him on the air. Its called business and I guess Pat is bad for it.
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One may well ask was Fox censoring Glenn Beck or violating his first amendment rights when it let him go? Or was it simply exercising a business decision?
 
Reading the comments on the page that robert;prey linked to goes a long way to informing me as to the POV that robert has. Basically that private media companies have some sort of constitutional mandate to allow Pat to speak on their private platform. Anything less marks the end of America somehow. One comment went so far as to say 'I doubt we will make it to 2025' [as a country because of this.]

Some people in this country need to stop waiving the constitution around and sit down to read the thing.

I would also note that nowhere in Pat's missive does he deny being a racist or a bigot. His only defense is that some people in the media have NOT accused him of being a racist and a bigot. He does not deny the charges in any explicit manor.

I am not a racist or a bigot myself and if I was accused of such things my first defense would not be, "Well that guy over there has never accused me of such things!"
 
leftysergeant said:
Ever hear of a concept called "inciting to riot?"
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Yes. That's not what Buchanan was doing. He was being a crotchety old racist. There's a demonstrable, significant difference. Don't double down on something that you are ridiculously wrong on.

ETA: To be kinder, if you are able to find a single instance of Buchanan legitimately inciting to riot, I will gladly retract my statement and say that you are right. But you won't be able to.
 
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Corsair 115 said:
One may well ask was Fox censoring Glenn Beck or violating his first amendment rights when it let him go? Or was it simply exercising a business decision?
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Well... that one was actually a result of a intolerant bigoted left wing crusade. But I swear we were not responsible for what happened to Pat! Ask the illuminati they might know.:rolleyes:
 
leftysergeant said:
Ever hear of a concept called "inciting to riot?"
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Then back up your earlier claim by showing how what Buchanan wrote crosses the line into incitement to riot or other criminalized hate speech, instead of just being his usual appeal to bigotry stuff.
 
Mexico is populated largely by mestizos - one big part of its gene pool is indigenous to the Americas, another derived from Spain which is a European country. If Buchanan is pro-European then his argument really boils down to European vs. indigenous. And yeah, over the years white people have been the victims of native Americans - right? Right. Makes a whole lot of sense.

I think Buchanan does tap into some real fear and maybe it's irresponsible to fan those flames but on the other hand it's maybe instructive to see white superiority sentiment called out for what it is. He's not making any bones about it. If white fear is a real phenomenon let's face it as a nation. I don't want it promoted but we might as well acknowledge it exists.

IMO.
 
Biscuit said:
Well... that one was actually a result of a intolerant bigoted left wing crusade. But I swear we were not responsible for what happened to Pat! Ask the illuminati they might know.:rolleyes:
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The Illuminati aren't talking. Perhaps the Reptilian Overlords might be willing to say something...
 
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