Was Communism *Ever* a Viable Alternative Economic System?

WildCat said:
Your link seems to be lacking in evidence. Lots of assertions though.

Seeing as it's Berkeley I'll go out on a limb and guess their rationale is that since R&D is tax deductible it's all funded by government.
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yes they also make a claim without backing it up.
but its kinda hard asking them, so i asked you as you made a claim.
i merely linked to them because they seem to disagree with you and have a tiny bit of a better reputation than you :)
 
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MG1962 said:
LOL the T34 is considered one of if not the most innovated tank in history
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DC said:
and also Communists can do research and invent technology

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_space_program
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And I also note that both your examples of "innovation" are because of competition with western militaries. Competition is essential for innovation, because without it there is little incentive to innovate. Thus the Trabby was good enough for East Germans for decades, no need to make it any better.
 
WildCat said:
And I also note that both your examples of "innovation" are because of competition with western militaries. Competition is essential for innovation, because without it there is little incentive to innovate. Thus the Trabby was good enough for East Germans for decades, no need to make it any better.
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Wooooooooooosh there goes the goal posts
 
DC said:
ha and there i thought for once you would bring up evidence for one of your claims. but again nothing, as usual from you.
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Do you think the Trabant compares favorably to West German cars?
 
WildCat said:
Do you think the Trabant compares favorably to West German cars?
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im still waiting for the evidence for your claims earlier.......
but as usual i will wait and wait and wait and nothing will come from you.
 
MG1962 said:
It was innovative - look there are 230,000 hits on google for this tank. Try clicking on anyone of them. They will all tell you pretty much the same story
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So you can't name a single innovation?

I'm not denying it was a good tank, perhaps the best of WWII. But that has little to do with innovations. Quite the opposite, what made the T-34 so effective was its simplicity and low production costs.

eta: it was basically typical of Russian military hardware, take existing innovations and make them more rugged. Brute force rather than finesse.
 
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DC said:
im still waiting for the evidence for your claims earlier.......
but as usual i will wait and wait and wait and nothing will come from you.
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So where is the innovation from non-capitalist countries? Where are the parts for your computer made? Who makes the train you take to work? Who launched the satellites that beams signals to your TV? Who makes your TV?

And feel free to list some examples of technology developed by Soviet Bloc countries.
 
WildCat said:
So where is the innovation from non-capitalist countries? Where are the parts for your computer made? Who makes the train you take to work? Who launched the satellites that beams signals to your TV? Who makes your TV?

And feel free to list some examples of technology developed by Soviet Bloc countries.
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i asked you to backup a claim of yours. untill then i will not list anything you request, why should i?

but just so you know, our railway company is a public company. belonging to the people. :rolleyes:
 
WildCat said:
So you can't name a single innovation?

I'm not denying it was a good tank, perhaps the best of WWII. But that has little to do with innovations. Quite the opposite, what made the T-34 so effective was its simplicity and low production costs.

eta: it was basically typical of Russian military hardware, take existing innovations and make them more rugged. Brute force rather than finesse.
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Feel free to show me examples of tanks prior to the T34 with sloping armor. A main turret gun that projects the front of the tank. An interleave suspension on a 26 ton vehicle, or the ability for a tank to continue if it lost one of its tracks.

But how about this. Show me some sources that say I am wrong. So far all you have presented as evidence is your opinion. The Germans clearly liked what they saw - they built the Panther, which except for a softer seat and swastika was a T34
 
DC said:
i asked you to backup a claim of yours. untill then i will not list anything you request, why should i?

but just so you know, our railway company is a public company. belonging to the people. :rolleyes:
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Your railway company made the train? :rolleyes:

Go ahead DC, show some innovations from non-capitalistic societies. I can't think of a single one.
 
Hundred million people killed by communism and some people think the jury's still out.
 
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