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Dragon Family lawsuit against the United Nations

Mojo said:
No, you can't publish it because the cabal's mind control won't allow you to. If you want to prove that you aren't under their control you need to publish their secret information.
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I don't need to be mind controlled for that. It's common sense self-preservation. Plus, to be responsible, posting such information may actually be more harmful for society than beneficial. One has to have a grasp of the big picture in order to really know how to handle such sensitive information in constructive ways.
 
Anders Lindman said:
You mean that mind controlled alter personalities could be a conscious state. That's not the impression I got from learning about mind control. The altered personalities are unconscious 'asleep', even while they are performing their tasks as I understand it.
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If the "ordinary personality" doesn't remember being the "altered personality", there is no way of telling whether the "altered personality" was conscious. It may be that people's "ordinary personalities" do not remember being in their altered personalities, but that doesn't mean that the altered personality is not conscious.

And if your task is, as has been suggested, to make the cabal seem improbable by posting nonsense about it on internet forums, you could be doing all this while unconscious, and just saying that you are conscious because that is what the mind control has programmed you to do.

And even if the alters are conscious states, and I was myself in such state right now, that would mean that my whole life all the way back to childhood would be such mind controlled state. That's hardly probable.
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You may think that you have memories all the way back to your childhood, but these could have been implanted by the cabal. Alternatively they could be real memories, and the cabal has merely implanted enough memories for you to be unaware of the discontinuities resulting from the mind control. You have even stated that this is possible yourself.

In any case, it's no less probable than the rest of your conspiracy theories.
 
Here is a speculative conspiracy theory for the bigger picture:

If what Svali has described is true (such as in these articles: http://svalispeaks.wordpress.com/category/the-illuminati-how-the-cult-programs-people/ ) then the 'Illuminati' or the cabal or the 'family' or the shadow society or whatever name to give this secret collective, use mind control on all its own members.

And if it's true that mind control alter personalities function on a mechanically programmed subconscious level, then the members will not be able to do individual higher rational reasoning. BUT, the whole collective is a tightly interconnected and well-organized group that as a whole could potentially have huge reasoning and analytical capabilities, and that would explain how they can carry out very advanced operations like the false flag 9/11 attacks for example, and it would explain how the cabal can operate secretly over centuries or even millenia.

It would also explain how they can have plans and agendas that span decades and centuries. Because they operate not as individuals but as a collective machine, very much similar to the Borg hive mind in Star Trek.
 
Anders Lindman said:
Ha! You are in other words admitting that you suspect there IS such secret cabal information. And that there even are some people who post such information. Understood.
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Misunderstood would be more accurate. My statement was that I believe you have no evidence, and come here to discredit those who do. It is my belief that you think there are those who have evidence. I have not stated that there are.

In those words or any other.

You fail to grasp the concept. Understood.
 
Anders Lindman said:
Mind control might seem like an unlikely thing, but I did some research about it and it seems to be a HUGE topic throughout history. And it's understandable that for example spies have been mind controlled in the past to be able to keep secrets. If the members of the cabal are mind controlled, then it would be really good to deprogram those members and dissolve the shadow cabal into the public society, WITHOUT legal prosecutions and things like that.

There are several types of mind control. The members of the cabal, as Svali described in the video I posted above, get totally mind controlled already as children. So there could be people working in society as seemingly ordinary people but that are members of the cabal, a shadow society that perpetuates itself almost unconsciously. So it could be very a serious situation.
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Mind control might seem like an unlikely thing, but I did some research about it and it seems to be a HUGE topic throughout history. And it's understandable that for example spies smurf cabal have been mind controlled in the past to be able to keep secrets. If the members of the smurf cabal are mind controlled, then it would be really good to deprogram those members and dissolve the shadow smurf cabal into the public society, WITHOUT legal prosecutions and things like that.

There are several types of mind control. The members of the smurf cabal, as Svali described in the video I posted above, get totally mind controlled already as children. So there could be people working in society as seemingly ordinary people but that are members of the smurf cabal, a shadow society that perpetuates itself almost unconsciously. So it could be very a serious situation.
 
Anders Lindman said:
At least I'm not mind controlled in cabal sense of having the entire ordinary daily life mind controlled. Because cabal members have roles in society where they work directly for the cabal. I do NOT work for the cabal, at least not directly. My continuous memory of NOT working for the cabal is evidence for this. There are many types of mind control, and some conspiracy researchers even claim that people can be mind controlled through television and movies etc. But the mind control in the case of the members of the cabal is a very thorough and total kind of mind control, beyond even MK Ultra and things like that.
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At least I'm not mind controlled in smurf cabal sense of having the entire ordinary daily life mind controlled. Because smurf cabal members have roles in society where they work directly for the smurf cabal. I do NOT work for the smurf cabal, at least not directly. My continuous memory of NOT working for the smurf cabal is evidence for this. There are many types of mind control, and some conspiracy researchers even claim that people can be mind controlled through television and movies etc. But the mind control in the case of the members of the smurf cabal is a very thorough and total kind of mind control, beyond even MK Ultra and things like that.
 
Anders Lindman said:
Because I'm consciously aware! And I'm aware of NOT working for any cabal. The real mind controlled members are not consciously aware when they are in their mind controlled personality. They are then unconscious! Like robots. They then have no self-awareness. Pretty scary stuff.
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Because I'm consciously aware! And I'm aware of NOT working for any smurf cabal. The real mind controlled members are not consciously aware when they are in their mind controlled personality. They are then unconscious! Like robots. They then have no self-awareness. Pretty scary stuff.
 
Anders Lindman said:
I meant as a general continuous memory of my past. Exact details I don't remember. Hardly anybody does. It's enough to remember a continuous daily life. Some people are mind controlled to be activated only for short periods of time, and then even with false memory implanted. That kind of mind control is probably very difficult to disprove, but I meant the continuous cabal member kind of total mind control. I can guarantee that I don't work for any secret cabal at least in the total sense of being a member of such cabal.
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I meant as a general continuous memory of my past. Exact details I don't remember. Hardly anybody does. It's enough to remember a continuous daily life. Some people are mind controlled to be activated only for short periods of time, and then even with false memory implanted. That kind of mind control is probably very difficult to disprove, but I meant the continuous smurf cabal member kind of total mind control. I can guarantee that I don't work for any secret smurf cabal at least in the total sense of being a member of such smurf cabal.
 
Anders Lindman said:
Think about all the memories from your life. Do you really think someone could artificially have programmed that into you without some sci-fi super technology? The idea of someone being able to program into another person a whole lifetime memory is ludicrous. I think you are joking with me here.
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Do you know how reliable memory is?

What about confabulation?
 
Dancing David said:
Do you know how reliable memory is?

What about confabulation?
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Think about someone close to you who you have known for many years. Do you believe such memory could be programmed into you? Sure, the memory may weak in many places but overall as a combined memory of say a loved one that's something very firm and is hardly something that can be produced as some kind of false memory.
 
Anders Lindman said:
And if it's true that mind control alter personalities function on a mechanically programmed subconscious level, then the members will not be able to do individual higher rational reasoning.
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I have already pointed out that your behavour on this forum is entirely consistent with your being under mind control.
 
Border Reiver said:
The Hive Mind?

Dammit the tyranids are here 38,000 years too soon....
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Rupert Sheldrake said that termites may be examples of such collective hive mind. He mentioned an experiment where a steel plate was put between two sides of termites and they built a mound with the knowledge about both sides even though they were separated by the plate. So some form of collective communication was going on.
 
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