Morgellons Still a Mystery

Look, I'm getting tired of everyone weaving these puns into a serious conversation.

Have you no respect? I see you warp the conversation, and it makes me want to woof like a dog.

You people think you have to twine humor into everything.

ETA: Quite a while, Checkmite....quite a while ;)
 
Hellbound said:
Look, I'm getting tired of everyone weaving these puns into a serious conversation.

Have you no respect? I see you warp the conversation, and it makes me want to woof like a dog.

You people think you have to twine humor into everything.

ETA: Quite a while, Checkmite....quite a while ;)
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Are you be-weft of a sense of humor? :p
 
ectoplasm said:
For Orac's take on the study, click here.
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From Orac's piece:

Predictably, although this study is still more evidence that there is not clearly definable physical cause of Morgellons disease, the advocates are not backing down. For example, Randy Wymore, an Oklahoma State University pharmacologist who is one of the most famous and reputable mainstream scientist who thinks there might be something to Morgellons disease is already making excuses. Unfortunately, it's probable that no amount of evidence will convince such people, at least until we find treatments that are effective in alleviating their symptoms. Maybe not even then.
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Like I said. :eek:
 
I'm curious of the number of cases have dramatically dropped since the original "outbreak". I'm guessing they have.
 
I think I had it once. I sliced my finger open and there was thread in it after my visit to the ER.
 
Threads found in sticky oozing wounds, film at 11.

We live in a much too peaceful society, when this is what people spend their time on. " Gee my open wound has bits of stuff in it, i must be special..."
 
randman said:
Btw, the fibers I saw reported were not even on abscesses or skin that had been scratched a lot. Makes me a skeptic then when they presume it must be people scratching a lot and then fibers getting stuck to them. Maybe the selection of people to test wasn't random after all?
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Unless you're a nudist, or have just taken a shower, you're going to have fibers on the skin. Some people just make a bigger deal of it than others, that's all.
 
aggle-rithm said:
Unless you're a nudist, or have just taken a shower, you're going to have fibers on the skin. Some people just make a bigger deal of it than others, that's all.
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Exactly. If I would freak out every time I have fibres in a wound, I'd be at the doctor every time I have a wound. I mean, it starts with fibres from my clothes, and continues with fibres from plasters.

Heck, the fact that I recognise the source of the fibres says enough. Sure, sometimes I wonder why I have a red fibre in there (to name a weird colour, since I rarely wear red), but I won't skip the steps "what did I wear?" and "were there fibres on the thing I got the wound from?".
 
randman said:
Morgellons seems to be more than psychological. Just because the CDC doesn't understand it doesn't mean it's just in the sufferer's minds.

Maybe it's just very hard to figure out. I remember when chronic fatigue syndrome was similarly dismissed and may still be by some, but appears connected to viral infections.

There's just a lot of stuff science and medical science hasn't figured out yet.
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This is going to border on ad hom. But I'm wondering why we should take your word on a biological science subject when you don't accept that we evolved from another species.
 
Almo said:
This is going to border on ad hom. But I'm wondering why we should take your word on a biological science subject when you don't accept that we evolved from another species.
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I also don't accept that we evolved from a different species. There is no missing link, because species are a human cons.....

Oh, right. You're not anti-evolution. Never mind.
 
randman said:
Don't know what's going on but doesn't really pass the smell test.
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:rolleyes: Type 1, or what I call informal, logic--ie, that "smell test" you refer to--is best applied in areas where you have extensive background information. As you know next to nothing about biology--seriously, you once argued that whales evolved from Mesozoic sea lizards based on gross morphological similarities, ignoring the innumerable structural and developmental differences between the two groups--your application of Type 1 logic is, if not entirely invalid, at least certainly not evidence of anything. This is not an ad homonym, by the way--there are known criteria for the application of Type 1 logic, and you fail to meet them, thus your application of this type of logic is inapprorpriate.

Maybe it's just very hard to figure out.
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Not really, no. I noted ever since I was a kid that if I had a small abrasion--not enough to bleed, but enough to scrape off a layer of skin--it'd pick up whatever was in the environment. If I wore blue pants, I'd get blue fibers stuck in it. If I wore black pants, the fibers would be black. It's simple to deduce what the fibers were from. The fact that studies quoted in this thread show that my reasoning is sound supports the idea that the fibers are from the environment, not any disease. And until you can present a plausible mechanism for how a human body can produce artificial fibers (meaning not found anywhere else on Earth except where humans have developed manufacturing processes specifically for the production of these materials), all that you're doing is saying "I don't care about evidence".

This actually happened to me this morning. I scraped my hand a bit in the desert yesterday--again, just enough to rip off some of the dead skin at the surface. I wore blue jeans. I got blue fibers on that part of my hand. I washed my hand, and it magically went away!!
 
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