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How do you define "Atheist"?

Is it possible to discuss atheism without first defining "God"?

Any believers out there?

Define God. (You also have to define "Create").
 
Agnostic = I do not have the integrity to make up my mind one way or the other. I cannot get over my desire for an afterlife and my wishful thinking is too powerful for me to let go of the desire for a sky daddy to tuck me in at the end of the day. However, I am not sufficiently irrational or deluded to LIE to myself about it and fabricate evidence in my imagination and still believe it as reality.
This is a dreadful mischaracterisation of agnosticism, and does a disservice to those of us who are intellectually honest about the subject.

Can you prove a god does or does not exist? If your answer is "no" then you are agnostic.
 
God: a supernatural being that humans are morally obligated to obey and worship.
 
God: a supernatural being that humans are morally obligated to obey and worship.

why on earth would one worship a monster that allegedly flooded the whole planet and killed almost everything on it?
If it exist, we should kill it.
 
Is it possible to discuss atheism without first defining "God"?

Before you go down that road, visit the Coherent definition of God thread:
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=226776


Can you prove a god does or does not exist? If your answer is "no" then you are agnostic.

Hey, maybe I can say I am an atheist about 'belief' (emotions etc.) and an agnostic about evidence. Although, the minute chance that there is some god is so unsatisfying that I feel I concede the argument when I say I am agnostic.
 
why on earth would one worship a monster that allegedly flooded the whole planet and killed almost everything on it?
If it exist, we should kill it.

And thus you are an atheist, at least with respect to YHWH.
 
Can you prove a god does or does not exist? If your answer is "no" then you are agnostic.

Poppycock.
Absolute bloody nonsense.

Are you agnostic regarding His Noodliness? No evidence of worth or merit has ever been put forth for god(s). That's why I'm an atheist. Same with any other ludicrous or paranormal claim.
Why do we have to walk on eggshells when it comes to non-belief/belief in sky daddies?
 
Do we really need to have the discussion about atheism and agnosticism not being mutually exclusive again?
 
Do we really need to have the discussion about atheism and agnosticism not being mutually exclusive again?
Well, it's needed with respect to the fact that some people still don't get it. It's unnecessary given the fact that it won't actually help.
 
By whom are they obligated?

We've had this discussion before - At least in previous threads, AvalonQX has stated that he defines morality based on YHWH's opinions and actions. So, by that definition of morality, one would be morally obligated to worship YHWH.
 
Imagine there's no questions
'bout meanings of words
No inane topics
No jobs for OED nerds
Imagine all the people staying 'wake in schools

Imagine no one wonders
What is meant by "Mind"
No damned semantics
Not an ax to grind
Imagine all the people thinking through their posts

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope you'll do what I did
Get a word-list off Amazon

Imagine no confusion
From language use
No hit-and-running
No playing obtuse

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope you'll do what I did
Get a word-list off Amazon
 
While I generally agree that a person who does not believe in any gods is an atheist, we do go round and round on this subject. Here's a long thread that discusses "Are newborn babies atheist?"

So I like to add to my definition, "An atheist is someone who is aware of the concepts of gods and deities and does not believe in them." To me the whole atheist-by-default thing is misleading.

That's why I specified the distinction between active and pacifist atheism. Newborn babies fall into the category of passive atheism, while active atheists are covered by your definition.

From Psalm 14:1: The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

This means that every atheist who does good work is proof the Bible is wrong.
Or do you genuinely believe that a person cannot be both an atheist and choose to do good?
 

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