Ignosticist
Critical Thinker
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I hope on day they"ll join us.
And the world will be as one
I hope on day they"ll join us.
DreamersAnd the world will be as one
This is a dreadful mischaracterisation of agnosticism, and does a disservice to those of us who are intellectually honest about the subject.Agnostic = I do not have the integrity to make up my mind one way or the other. I cannot get over my desire for an afterlife and my wishful thinking is too powerful for me to let go of the desire for a sky daddy to tuck me in at the end of the day. However, I am not sufficiently irrational or deluded to LIE to myself about it and fabricate evidence in my imagination and still believe it as reality.
God: a supernatural being that humans are morally obligated to obey and worship.
How do you define "Atheist"?
This may be a very educational thread.
God: a supernatural being that humans are morally obligated to obey and worship.
Is it possible to discuss atheism without first defining "God"?
Can you prove a god does or does not exist? If your answer is "no" then you are agnostic.
why on earth would one worship a monster that allegedly flooded the whole planet and killed almost everything on it?
If it exist, we should kill it.
And thus you are an atheist, at least with respect to YHWH.
Can you prove a god does or does not exist? If your answer is "no" then you are agnostic.
Well, it's needed with respect to the fact that some people still don't get it. It's unnecessary given the fact that it won't actually help.Do we really need to have the discussion about atheism and agnosticism not being mutually exclusive again?
God: a supernatural being that humans are morally obligated to obey and worship.
By whom are they obligated?
While I generally agree that a person who does not believe in any gods is an atheist, we do go round and round on this subject. Here's a long thread that discusses "Are newborn babies atheist?"
So I like to add to my definition, "An atheist is someone who is aware of the concepts of gods and deities and does not believe in them." To me the whole atheist-by-default thing is misleading.
From Psalm 14:1: The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.