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Dragon Family lawsuit against the United Nations

Anders Lindman said:
Then my hypothesis is false. But then the question is: Who the heck was Woodrow Wilson talking about in the below quote? :confused:

"Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men's views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of somebody, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it." -- Woodrow Wilson, 28th President of the United States
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Man, that is so lame, did you even consider checking source?
http://books.google.com/books?id=MW...ntered"#v=onepage&q="Since I entered"&f=false

He is discussing COPORATIONS AND CORPORATE POWER!
 
Anders Lindman said:
Is it really obvious? Let's look at it again:

"Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of somebody, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, ... the man with only a little capital is finding it harder to get into the field, more and more impossible to compete with the big fellow."

So you see, there is some organized, interlocked and COMPLETE power that the BIGGEST men are very afraid of. The biggest men would obviously already a be a part of that power if Wilson was referring to monopolies. Just to hammer in my point, here is another part of that quote:

"If they could vote secretly they would vote overwhelmingly that the present organization of business was meant for the big fellows and was not meant for the little fellows; that it was meant for those who are at the top and was meant to exclude those who are at the bottom; that it was meant to shut out beginners, to prevent new entries in the race, to prevent the building up of competitive enterprises that would interfere with the monopolies which the great trusts have built up."
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You should read the whole thing, it is not about the Vatican
http://books.google.com/books?id=MW...ntered"#v=onepage&q="Since I entered"&f=false
 
Mojo said:
Neither of these responses is anything to do with the question I asked.

You claim that there is some sort of "cabal" ruling the Western world. You suggested that this "cabal" was responsible for 9/11, and claimed that if the "official story" was not correct it would be evidence for the existence of this "cabal". Then, when it was pointed out that a conspiracy internal to the US government would not be evidence for your international "cabal", even if its existence might mean that the "official story" was wrong, you tried to move the goalposts by saying that it "depends on what definition of "cabal" is used."

Sometimes you claim that your "cabal" is international, involving (for example) the Vatican and ruling the whole Western world, and sometimes you imply that it is internal to the US government. It can't be both.

Describe the "cabal" that you claim exists.
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The cabal is likely an international shadow society that uses mind control on its own members. Members of the cabal can be found in many different positions in society.
 
Sceptic-PK said:
Is there any idea too stupid for you to entertain?
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I have now listened to the first interview I posted above: http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=223408

Near the end of the first audio Sale talks about this cabal! And the interviewer mentions mind control. Sale talks about how the CIA is divided into a public part and a huge rogue part. It's not only the CIA, and I suspect that it's not even the biggest part of the cabal. The cabal is huge. Could Sale just be making stuff up? Maybe. Maybe not.
 
Mojo said:
So evidence that the "official story" isn't correct would not necessarily be evidence that your "cabal" exists.
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Fuji Bank is not American and the steel from ground zero was hastily shipped to Asian countries. So, the cabal is international. See my posts in the 9/11 section for explanations of how Fuji Bank was involved.
 
Anders Lindman said:
Fuji Bank is not American and the steel from ground zero was hastily shipped to Asian countries. So, the cabal is international. See my posts in the 9/11 section for explanations of how Fuji Bank was involved.
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For a start sticking the word "and" between two unrelated statements doesn't make them connected. For example:
"Fuji Bank is not American and the steel from ground zero was hastily shipped to Asian countries."
Or
"Fuji Bank is not American and scrap metal was sold to markets where it would fetch a better price."
"The Pentagon is a shape and Winnie the Pooh likes honey."

Nothing you have posted here suggests there is a cabal. Just you WANT there to be one.
 
Tomtomkent said:
For a start sticking the word "and" between two unrelated statements doesn't make them connected. For example:
"Fuji Bank is not American and the steel from ground zero was hastily shipped to Asian countries."
Or
"Fuji Bank is not American and scrap metal was sold to markets where it would fetch a better price."
"The Pentagon is a shape and Winnie the Pooh likes honey."

Nothing you have posted here suggests there is a cabal. Just you WANT there to be one.
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The spot price of steel could have been manipulated! That's how huge the conspiracy is. So I would say that the "and" is relevant. It shows how the cabal is international (unless the companies who bought the steel from ground zero were all American).
 
Anders Lindman said:
The spot price of steel could have been manipulated! That's how huge the conspiracy is. So I would say that the "and" is relevant. It shows how the cabal is international (unless the companies who bought the steel from ground zero were all American).
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Was the spot price of steel manipulated? Show your work.
 
Anders Lindman said:
I have now listened to the first interview I posted above: http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=223408

Near the end of the first audio Sale talks about this cabal! And the interviewer mentions mind control. Sale talks about how the CIA is divided into a public part and a huge rogue part. It's not only the CIA, and I suspect that it's not even the biggest part of the cabal. The cabal is huge. Could Sale just be making stuff up? Maybe. Maybe not.
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Did Sale offer evidence? If not then yes Sale is making stuff up.
 
Anders Lindman said:
The spot price of steel could have been manipulated!
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And you could be a pedophile. :rolleyes:

Do you know why it would be wrong to make that accusation? No, not because it would be against this forum's Membership Agreement. It would be wrong because I have no positive evidence that you actually are.

But you might be!
 
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Anders Lindman said:
Fuji Bank is not American and the steel from ground zero was hastily shipped to Asian countries. So, the cabal is international.
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Can I play this game too?

How about:

"The hijackers were from countries other than the USA. So, the cabal is international."

You can do that with pretty much anything.
 
Anders Lindman said:
Fuji Bank is not American and the steel from ground zero was hastily shipped to Asian countries. So, the cabal is international. See my posts in the 9/11 section for explanations of how Fuji Bank was involved.
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How about you stick to a meaningless diversion that didn't involve the deaths of over 3000 people maybe? You're an amusing chew toy but you're forgetting your place when you delve into areas that actually matter. Your little lawsuit thing is fine but it's in exceptionally poor taste to exhibit your abysmally poor quality of work and complete ineptitude on a topic that involved the deaths of so many people.
 
Mojo said:
Can I play this game too?

How about:

"The hijackers were from countries other than the USA. So, the cabal is international."

You can do that with pretty much anything.
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Although much, if not most, terrorism, are false flag operations, to say that the cabal and terrorists are the same thing is incorrect.
 
Craig4 said:
How about you stick to a meaningless diversion that didn't involve the deaths of over 3000 people maybe? You're an amusing chew toy but you're forgetting your place when you delve into areas that actually matter. Your little lawsuit thing is fine but it's in exceptionally poor taste to exhibit your abysmally poor quality of work and complete ineptitude on a topic that involved the deaths of so many people.
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I have heard that the 9/11 victims may be faked, so-called vicsims. So you need first to prove that there are actual victims before you can use that as some kind of accusation.
 
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