Vaccine/autism CT discussion

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Clayton Moore said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Febrile_seizure




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Symptoms




May in this instance means may or may not.

Can in this instance means may or may not.



A febrile seizure is the effect of a sudden rise in temperature (>39°C/102°F) rather than a fever that has been present for a prolonged length of time.

Kinda looks like a sudden rise in temperature doesn't jive with a concerned parent on high alert.
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Clearly you were not a concerned parent, but were more interested in beer and football.
 
Kid Eager said:
What an odd question. Surely there was a point to you posting an 11 month old unsubstantiated claim?
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Sounds substantiated to me. Why don't you research it? I provided it, you research it. Sounds fair.

Have you listened to the link?

Very interesting at 1 hour and 50 minutes.

I'm at 2 hours 8 minutes. A doctor whose son is autistic is being interviewed.
 
Clayton Moore said:
Sounds substantiated to me. Why don't you research it? I provided it, you research it. Sounds fair.

Have you listened to the link?

Very interesting at 1 hour and 50 minutes.

I'm at 2 hours 8 minutes. A doctor whose son is autistic is being interviewed.
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Is listening to links what you call research?
 
Clayton Moore said:
Sounds substantiated to me. Why don't you research it? I provided it, you research it. Sounds fair.

Have you listened to the link?

Very interesting at 1 hour and 50 minutes.

I'm at 2 hours 8 minutes. A doctor whose son is autistic is being interviewed.
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I see - so it's unsubstantiated despite 11 months elapsing since the show. How utterly non-eventful...
 
tsig said:
Is listening to links what you call research?
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Sometimes.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rober...kirby/vaccine-court-autism-deba_b_169673.html


Vaccine Court: Autism Debate Continues
Posted: 02/24/09 08:37 PM ET

But last week, the parents of yet another child with autism spectrum disorder (ASD) were awarded a lump sum of more than $810,000 (plus an estimated $30-40,000 per year for autism services and care) in compensation by the Court, which ruled that the measels-mumps-rubella (MMR) vaccine had caused acute brain damage that led to his autism spectrum disorder.

The family of 10-year-old Bailey Banks won their case quietly and without fanfare in June of 2007, but the ruling has only now come to public attention. In the remarkably clear and eloquent decision, Special Master Richard Abell ruled that the Banks had successfully demonstrated that "the MMR vaccine at issue actually caused the conditions from which Bailey suffered and continues to suffer."

Bailey's diagnosis is Pervasive Developmental Disorder -- Not Otherwise Specified (PDD-NOS) which has been recognized as an autism spectrum disorder by CDC, HRSA and the other federal health agencies since at least the 1990s.

In his conclusion, Special Master Abell ruled that Petitioners had proven that the MMR had directly caused a brain inflammation illness called acute disseminated encephalomyelitis (ADEM) which, in turn, had caused the autism spectrum disorder PDD-NOS in the child:
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The Court found that Bailey's ADEM was both caused-in-fact and proximately caused by his vaccination. It is well-understood that the vaccination at issue can cause ADEM, and the Court found, based upon a full reading and hearing of the pertinent facts in this case, that it did actually cause the ADEM. Furthermore, Bailey's ADEM was severe enough to cause lasting, residual damage, and retarded his developmental progress, which fits under the generalized heading of Pervasive Developmental Delay, or PDD [an autism spectrum disorder]. The Court found that Bailey would not have suffered this delay but for the administration of the MMR vaccine, and that this chain of causation was... a proximate sequence of cause and effect leading inexorably from vaccination to Pervasive Developmental Delay.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WQtRI7A064&feature=related

Bill Gates Admits Vaccines Are Used for Human Depopulation


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-f-kennedy-jr/central-figure-in-cdc-vac_b_494303.html

Central Figure in CDC Vaccine Cover-Up Absconds With $2M

A central figure behind the Center for Disease Control's (CDC) claims disputing the link between vaccines and autism and other neurological disorders has disappeared after officials discovered massive fraud involving the theft of millions in taxpayer dollars. Danish police are investigating Dr. Poul Thorsen, who has vanished along with almost $2 million that he had supposedly spent on research.

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Snipped for compliance with Rule 4. Do not copy and paste lengthy tracts of text from elsewhere. Instead, cite a short passage and post a link to the source.
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Clayton Moore said:
Bill Gates Admits Vaccines Are Used for Human Depopulation
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LOL, wait - you're serious? Bwahahahahaha! :D

Comments from your own YouTube link:

"Bill Gates is not advocating the removal of all CO2, but the removal of all CO2 from energy production which is excess with respect to what is needed for biological growth. Next time actually watch the presentation instead of blindly listening to a conspiracy theorist dumbass who blatantly quote-mines Bill Gates."

"That is idiotic. He is saying that vaccines, health care and reproductive services will lower the population not by KILLING people in mass, but by preventing unwanted births and taking care of the people we already have! With a healthier and more educated population, the lower the birthrate will be. That is what the aim will be, lowering the worlds population to zero is a fools errand and not at all what he is suggesting."
 
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Clayton, Party of One?

Looks like I kicked tail and I did it all a Lone.

Time for you skeptics to chew on some humble pie.
 
Clayton Moore said:
Sometimes.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rober...kirby/vaccine-court-autism-deba_b_169673.html


Vaccine Court: Autism Debate Continues
Posted: 02/24/09 08:37 PM ET
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No, it doesn't.
On February 12, the federal "Vaccine Court" in Washington issued a sweeping ruling in three highly touted "test cases" against families who claimed that their childrens' autism had been caused by vaccines. The Special Masters in those three cases found that Petitioners failed to establish causation between MMR vaccines, the mercury-laced vaccine preservative thimerosal, and autism.
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This child developed ADEM, which is also a side effect of measles itself, at rates in the neighborhood of 1000 x more that from the vaccine.

Your point?
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Clayton Moore said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WQtRI7A064&feature=related

Bill Gates Admits Vaccines Are Used for Human Depopulation
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No, in fact he doesn't.

If you actually listened to the speech, what he said is that vaccines reduce childhood mortality, which in turn removes a major motivator in third world countries to have multiple children, when he then hopes would result in a lowering of population growth.

So, your point ... ?
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Clayton Moore said:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-f-kennedy-jr/central-figure-in-cdc-vac_b_494303.html

Central Figure in CDC Vaccine Cover-Up Absconds With $2M
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You can, of course, support this "central figure" nonsense?

What am I saying, of course you can't, since he wasn't primary author or researcher on either the Danish study nor the Pediatrics article.

But even if he was. the answer is: So?

What impact does this have on the science that was done?

I'll answer that one for you too: Absolutely none.

So for the third time ... your point?
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Clayton Moore said:
Looks like I kicked tail and I did it all a Lone.
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Hmmm.

"Made a post that no one has responded to in roughly 15 minutes" == "kicked tail" in your world?

And all alone? Which of these citations did you personally write or produce?

But thanks for the admission that the point of the exercise isn't truth or protecting kids, it's "kicking tail" on an obscure Internet forum...
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Clayton Moore said:
Time for you skeptics to chew on some humble pie.
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So you need us to chew it up and spit it back into your mouth for you, too?

< edited suggestion as to whose job it is to feed CM vomit >
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With all this terrible vaccine stuff going around surely the average human lifespan has gone way down over the last fifty years. Right?
 
Travis said:
With all this terrible vaccine stuff going around surely the average human lifespan has gone way down over the last fifty years. Right?
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I think there were 400,000 cases of Autism, total in 2010. A diminished, dependent segment of the population. Does that connect?
 
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