JFK Conspiracy Theories: It Never Ends

[Robert Prey]

More stellar reading comprehension from Robert. You seem to have highlighted the wrong word. I've put in red the words that you've ignored. Of course this doesn't match the drawing you've posted at all. It would if those two very important adjectives were reversed, but alas they are not. So coming as a shock to no one (other than Robert) the testimony actually matches this drawing far more closely:

http://www.environmentalgraffiti.com/history/news-jfk-autopsies-and-conspiries-photos?image=6

Two more shots to the feet.

Wow, that drawing of yours isn't at all consistent with the quoted text. But here is another way to interpret it:


"There is a large irregular defect of the scalp and skull on the right involving chiefly the parietaal bone but extending somewhat into the temporal and occipital regions. In this region there is an actual absence of scalp and bone producing a defect which measures approximately 13 cm. in greatest diameter"-- Autopsy Report, p,. 540, WR.

This region meaning the occipital region, which he just noted in the previous sentence. But all this just goes to show what I originally said, namely, that the report is ambiguous and inconsistent with itself.

 

[Tomtomkent]

To diagnose your problem, look up the word "doublethink."

Well done! You read 1984 once. Shame you still don't seem to have been able to understand the report you are commenting on. You are still mistaking a bullet travelling from behind JFK and exiting his head for one exiting the "behind" of his head.

Doubleplussgood job!

 

[Robert Prey]

So the rifle, the body, the palm print, the bullets, and the autopsy records don't count.

I have seen you dismiss them from your case, but as you never managed to prove them to be flawed, I will happily still cite them.

All those items have been completely discredited as to reliable evidence, but even if all true and even if LHO did fire shots, that does not disprove the mountain of evidence for conspiracy. All that leads to, even if true, is one shooter. But the wounds and the eye-witnesses on the scene and at Parkland, prove Conspiracy. And then there is the Odio incident as well. You have proven nothing, and dis-proven nothing.

 

[Tomtomkent]

Wow, that drawing of yours isn't at all consistent with the quoted text. But here is another way to interpret it:


"There is a large irregular defect of the scalp and skull on the right involving chiefly the parietaal bone but extending somewhat into the temporal and occipital regions. In this[/B ]region there is an actual absence of scalp and bone producing a defect which measures approximately 13 cm. in greatest diameter"-- Autopsy Report, p,. 540, WR.

This region meaning the occipital region, which he just noted in the previous sentence. But all this just goes to show what I originally said, namely, that the report is ambiguous and inconsistent with itself.

Why on earth do you find that ambiguous? Especially as the "inconsistancy" is your lack of comprehension.

I wouldn't worry Robert, autopsies often include photographs to aid comprehension. You yourself posted two of them that show the exit wound was NOT on the rear of the head.


Where is your material evidence Robert?

 

[RoboTimbo]

All those items have been completely discredited as to reliable evidence, but even if all true and even if LHO did fire shots, that does not disprove the mountain of evidence for conspiracy. All that leads to, even if true, is one shooter. But the wounds and the eye-witnesses on the scene and at Parkland, prove Conspiracy. And then there is the Odio incident as well. You have proven nothing, and dis-proven nothing.

Baloney.

 

[RoboTimbo]

None of your cowardly dodging, Robert.

But how does someone's drawing square with what we see in the Zapruder film where you were also kind enough to note that

Were you lying or simply mistaken when you said the wound is in the right front of the head? Or were you lying or simply mistaken when you said it wasn't?

How did Oswald's rifle get to the 6th floor of the TSBD? How did his handprint get on an inaccessible place on the rifle? How did the bullets that killed officer Tippitt get out of the Oswald's revolver that he was carrying when he was arrested in the theater?

None of your cowardly dodging now, Robert.

Answer the questions, Robert.

 

[TheRedWorm]

Why on earth do you find that ambiguous? ...<snip>...

It's just another dodge, like his 'one question at a time' BS.

 

[Tomtomkent]

Baloney.

Of course it is. Robert seems to think that if he declares something void with out evidence it is discredited. Like his laughable attempt to tell us the autopsy means the exact (and literal) opposite to the words he has copied and pasted.

Or indeed his habit you are joking about. Robert thinking something is baloney means he is unable to make a factual argument.

 

[Tomtomkent]

It's just another dodge, like his 'one question at a time' BS.

It's an outright lie. He doesn't understand what is being said so he feels he can claim it ambiguous. Just like photos being "obvious fakes" because they disagree with the Parkland quote. Any reasonable adult would recognise the possibility the eye witness testimony could be in error. (And would also comprehend the difference between 20 people, 40 people and "all staff").

Nobody else appears to have any trouble understanding it.

 

[I Ratant]

There is no other way to interpret this as saying that the bullit came from behind and that the direction it had when exiting the skull was from behind and thus toward the front.
So I entirely fail to see your problem.

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RP sees his problem every time he looks into a mirror.

 

[I Ratant]

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We feel your pain. Not!

 

[Tomtomkent]

None of your cowardly dodging, Robert.


Answer the questions, Robert.

If he hasn't by now he can't. I wonder if he will get around to telling us who lied about thepalm print being found on the rifle? Or who else at the autopsy was dishonest or unreliable? He seems to like making assertations. But not giving the most basic details of the assertions.

 

[bynmdsue]

How did Oswald's rifle get to the 6th floor of the TSBD? How did his handprint get on an inaccessible place on the rifle? How did the bullets that killed officer Tippitt get out of the Oswald's revolver that he was carrying when he was arrested in the theater?

"Maaaan, the only reason you think those things are true is because the DPD and the FBI said so. You gonna trust them? They're in on it too man!"

 

[CurtC]

"There is a large irregular defect of the scalp and skull on the right involving chiefly the parietaal bone but extending somewhat into the temporal and occipital regions. In this region there is an actual absence of scalp and bone producing a defect which measures approximately 13 cm. in greatest diameter"-- Autopsy Report, p,. 540, WR.

This region meaning the occipital region, which he just noted in the previous sentence. But all this just goes to show what I originally said, namely, that the report is ambiguous and inconsistent with itself.

Wow, I see what they mean about poor reading comprehension. There's no way that "this region" would be referring to the occipital part, when he's talking about a 13 cm hole that he already told us was chiefly in the parietal bone, and extended only "somewhat" into the occipital bone.

Do you yourself even believe the stuff you post, or is this just a game of cat-and-mouse for you?

 

[Robert Prey]

Wow, I see what they mean about poor reading comprehension. There's no way that "this region" would be referring to the occipital part, when he's talking about a 13 cm hole that he already told us was chiefly in the parietal bone, and extended only "somewhat" into the occipital bone.

Do you yourself even believe the stuff you post, or is this just a game of cat-and-mouse for you?

The autopsy drawing by Paul O'Connor is consistent with the statement above properly interpreted as the occipit being absent of bone. The bullet travels from the right temple blasting out the thru the parietal and the occipt. It hardly has any consistency with a small entrance wound in the back of the head. But your mis-interpretation confirms the ambiguity.

 

[EventHorizon]

There's only one person in this thread misinterpreting that statement.

 

[Walter Ego]

Stop The Insanity

Gawd, is this thread still going on with Robert and everyone else arguing in circles over the sames tired issues? Will it still be going on rehashing the same points on the 50th anniversary of the assassination? (That's two years from now for anyone counting.)

Please see my suggestion here for an entirely new and much more entertaining thread we can have if we can get the 7-year-old to play ball with Robert.

 

[RoboTimbo]

Robert, 7forever says you're wrong. He says the ejecta from the exit wound that you yourself have noted in the right front of Kennedy's head as you have seen in the Zapruder film is "fake red thing". He also says the limo driver shot Kennedy.

So, like everyone else, he knows you're way out in left field and have no rebuttal to his evidence. I can pretty well guarantee that nobody will think any less of you if you slink away from answering him and choose cowardly dodging instead.

 

[Walter Ego]

Robert, 7forever says you're wrong. He says the ejecta from the exit wound that you yourself have noted in the right front of Kennedy's head as you have seen in the Zapruder film is "fake red thing". He also says the limo driver shot Kennedy.

And he's only seven years-old!

Yes, I know this would be hold up in court and every other theory would be destroyed and laughed at. The shot from the rear, the storm drains, the north grassy knoll...it's all garbage. Don't you see that I am all by myself and that is exactly where the truth would be this muddied old cover-up. Everyone is my enemy. Doug Horne, Fetzer, Groden, Dan Robertson, if he insists on the right temple entrance, Vince Palamara, Oliver Stone and the list goes on. They didn't have the balls to the tell the truth so they used the grassy knoll because it didn't directly accuse the government of killing Kennedy. The whole scene in the movie is the biggest editing snow job ever. They made it look like it came from the right side but it came from the front.

Can we add Robert to that list of villains who are spreading false JFK conspiracy theories? I have suspected from the beginning that Robert is a disinfo agent doing the bidding of the Secret Service and I think we have the proof right here. Can Robert proved he is not a disinfo agent? I hope for his sake that he can.

 

[Tomtomkent]

The autopsy drawing by Paul O'Connor is consistent with the statement above properly interpreted as the occipit being absent of bone. The bullet travels from the right temple blasting out the thru the parietal and the occipt. It hardly has any consistency with a small entrance wound in the back of the head. But your mis-interpretation confirms the ambiguity.

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I believe you may have mistaken the terms "autopsy drawings" with "a drawing by somebody who was there after the fact". I can't find site that attaches that drawing with the autopsy report. Only with the cropped and rotated photo you have supplied claiming the exit wound is at the back of the head.

Please provide a citation to confirm that drawing was part of the autopsy.