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Merged bullet hole in the windshield of JFK's limo/ You might be...

What's to debunk? You can't debunk insanity. You can't debunk stupidity. All you can do is point and laugh. "Hey, everyone, look at the stupid stuff this one's saying!" That's what's going on here. You're just too dense to understand it.
Sorry, but that's the truth.
 
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William Greer describes a wound path only he could have been responsible for and this is smoking gun evidence for any prosecutor around the world. This testimony makes perfect sense of everything including, understanding that the north grassy knoll was a red herring provided by Kennedy's killers to confuse the remaining folks on elm. Without that dummie shot after Greer fired, people wouldn't have had an alternative recollection for the fatal shot. This testimony will be ignored or they will try to spin it as something it is clearly not. The bullet entered over his right eye and it exited the right rear, as seen by Jackie, Hill, Kellerman, and the killer himself, Greer.



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7forever said:
Nobody has debunked me, you silly. I used the killer's own testimony to show the correct wound path and that is something new. I used Altgens two pics which depict a bullet hole that it totally inconsistent with the government's pics. The Altgens pics were taken right after the first shots came into the limo and right after the driver fired the fatal shot and the dummie shot from the north knoll. The truth destroys everything in its path and that is exactly what's been done here. No challenge from any person on here and there never will be. Ridiculing me or the evidence proves you have no challenge and in the real world you would be totally screwed because you would have to deal with it just like Casey Anthony's pathetic defense will face before she's fried.

Greer fired the fatal shot and the throat wound came from the south grassy knoll which is something I learned from others who've investigated this case. Connally was shot from the rear between 234-238 and those three bullet wounds would be believed by any neutral panel or jury in this world, with ease. And, in that delivery of common sense every known theory would be debunked which is something I've done quite well by showing simple angles.
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This then delves into philosophy. What exactly right and wrong? You say you are right, they say you are wrong. Who gets to judge? You may very well think you are totally right. Does that mean you are right?

Do you think your evidence would hold up in a court of law when put head-to-head against the competing evidence, for example? How confidant are you? Is there anybody whom you trust who, upon seeing your evidence would say it's unconvincing, that would make you think twice about your position?
 
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What's to debunk? You can't debunk insanity. You can't debunk stupidity. All you can do is point and laugh. "Hey, everyone, look at the stupid stuff this one's saying!" That's what's going on here. You're just too dense to understand it.
Sorry, but that's the truth.
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DO YOU THINK JACKIE WAS MISTAKEN OR WAS SHE LYING? She saw the hole on the rear of his skull just like over 40 others did.
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"And just as I turned and looked at him, I could see a piece of his skull and I remember it was flesh colored. I remember thinking he just looked as if he had a slight headache. And I just remember seeing that. No blood or anything."

" I was trying to hold his hair on. From the front there was nothing --- I suppose there must have been. But from the back you could see, you know, you were trying to hold his hair on, and his skull on." She means there was nothing in front that she could see but there must have been because the hole was on the rear. It was a small hole over the right eye, likely covered by his low hairline.

However, new analysis reveals that the original court tape actually reads:

"... I could see a piece of his skull sort of wedge-shaped, like that, and I remember that it was flesh colored with little ridges at the top
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I SIMPLY FIGURED OUT THE CORRECT ENTRANCE LOCATION that is corroborated by tons of witnesses and the violent backward motion caused from a frontal shot.
 
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This then delves into philosophy. What exactly right and wrong? You say you are right, they say you are wrong. Who gets to judge? You may very well think you are totally right. Does that mean you are right?

Do you think your evidence would hold up in a court of law when put head-to-head against the competing evidence, for example? How confidant are you? Is there anybody whom you trust who, upon seeing your evidence would say it's unconvincing, that would make you think twice about your position?
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Well, at least you are asking me a serious question and not being jerk. That's the thing...this is a message board and there's no judge or jury just whomever is posting and apparently lone nuts are here mostly and me. What I've been able to do is debunk the most popular conspiracy theory, the grassy knoll with ease by simply showing the angle could not have caused the right rear exit. The right rear exit is, as far as I know, a universally agreed upon location for the massive exit wound which Kennedy suffered. The only thing left to do is to find and identify the entrance location and see if it hangs together without being challenged to any significant degree. It not only hangs together but the ease with which these other angles are shown to be impossible is clear.

Yes, I know this would be hold up in court and every other theory would be destroyed and laughed at. The shot from the rear, the storm drains, the north grassy knoll...it's all garbage. Don't you see that I am all by myself and that is exactly where the truth would be this muddied old cover-up. Everyone is my enemy. Doug Horne, Fetzer, Groden, Dan Robertson, if he insists on the right temple entrance, Vince Palamara, Oliver Stone and the list goes on. They didn't have the balls to the tell the truth so they used the grassy knoll because it didn't directly accuse the government of killing Kennedy. The whole scene in the movie is the biggest editing snow job ever. They made it look like it came from the right side but it came from the front.
 
7forever said:
Well, at least you are asking me a serious question and not being jerk. That's the thing...this is a message board and there's no judge or jury just whomever is posting and apparently lone nuts are here mostly and me. What I've been able to do is debunk the most popular conspiracy theory, the grassy knoll with ease by simply showing the angle could not have caused the right rear exit. The right rear exit is, as far as I know, a universally agreed upon location for the massive exit wound which Kennedy suffered. The only thing left to do is to find and identify the entrance location and see if it hangs together without being challenged to any significant degree. It not only hangs together but the ease with which these other angles are shown to be impossible is clear.

Yes, I know this would be hold up in court and every other theory would be destroyed and laughed at. The shot from the rear, the storm drains, the north grassy knoll...it's all garbage. Don't you see that I am all by myself and that is exactly where the truth would be this muddied old cover-up. Everyone is my enemy. Doug Horne, Fetzer, Groden, Dan Robertson, if he insists on the right temple entrance, Vince Palamara, Oliver Stone and the list goes on. They didn't have the balls to the tell the truth so they used the grassy knoll because it didn't directly accuse the government of killing Kennedy. The whole scene in the movie is the biggest editing snow job ever. They made it look like it came from the right side but it came from the front.
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And that, fence sitting lurkers everywhere, is why conspiracy theories never gain any traction in the real world. Partly because each and every purveyor of a specific theory is convinced that everyone who does not believe exactly as he (and yes, it's almost always a "he") does is his "enemy", even if they agree with him on certain key points (e.g., Oswald did not act alone). Of course the other main reason they never take hold is that the sort of big, sexy-crazy Hollywood thriller type conspiracy theories that CTists are invariably the most interested in are the kinds that are (alas) the least likely to be true.
 
7forever said:
Yes, I know this would be hold up in court and every other theory would be destroyed and laughed at.
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This is where we have an issue. I wholeheartedly disagree. Unfortunately, the ONLY way any of us could be proved right is if this happened. And you know as well as I do that it won't.

So. Where does that leave us?
 
7forever said:
DO YOU THINK JACKIE WAS MISTAKEN OR WAS SHE LYING? She saw the hole on the rear of his skull just like over 40 others did.
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"And just as I turned and looked at him, I could see a piece of his skull and I remember it was flesh colored. I remember thinking he just looked as if he had a slight headache. And I just remember seeing that. No blood or anything."

" I was trying to hold his hair on. From the front there was nothing --- I suppose there must have been. But from the back you could see, you know, you were trying to hold his hair on, and his skull on." She means there was nothing in front that she could see but there must have been because the hole was on the rear. It was a small hole over the right eye, likely covered by his low hairline.

However, new analysis reveals that the original court tape actually reads:

"... I could see a piece of his skull sort of wedge-shaped, like that, and I remember that it was flesh colored with little ridges at the top
[qimg]http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac98/77forever/WallPaint199.jpg[/qimg]

I SIMPLY FIGURED OUT THE CORRECT ENTRANCE LOCATION that is corroborated by tons of witnesses and the violent backward motion caused from a frontal shot.
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I don't think Jackie was lying or mistaken. I think (correction, KNOW) the things you post are either stupid or insane, and bear no resemblance to any events that occurred that day. You can't differentiate between hyperbole and reality, think fuzzy crap you post shows things they clearly don't, and couldn't qualify to clean the head in a real police department, let alone lead an investigation. My dog has more intelligence than you do, and you clearly should get a vasectomy so you can't reproduce.

Yes, I am trying to say the things you say don't do anything to convince anyone of anything other than the fact you're a doofus. Major league doofus. If you were lucky, the crew on a submarine might use you for a TDU weight, but even then, I don't think you could qualify to do that correctly.

Clear enough?
 
7forever said:
With any cover-up, glaring inconsistencies are everywhere that cannot be explained away or challenged by those unwilling to accept the harsh reality that the official story is complete and utter nonsense and would never hold up in any court in this world.
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Oh?

“The idea for the book [Reclaiming Histoy] originally started with a 21-hour ‘trial’ that took place in London in 1986,” Bugliosi stated.

“There were real witnesses, real evidence, and real jurors.”

The object of the trial, which was produced by London Weekend Television, was to reexamine the findings of the 1964 Warren Commission, which supported the plausibility of a “single bullet” theory and concluded that Oswald was not part of a larger conspiracy to assassinate then-President Kennedy.

In the London studio, a Dallas Federal Courthouse was painstakingly reconstructed. Jurors were imported from Dallas, and witnesses included such key figures as Ruth Paine, Buell Fraser, Charles Brehm, Bill Newman, Harold Norman, Judyth Baker, Ted Callaway, Johnny Brewer, and forensic pathologist Cyril Wecht.

Said Bugliosi, “It’s the closest thing to a trial that Lee Harvey Oswald ever had or will have.”

As the prosecuting attorney, Bugliosi was responsible to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Oswald killed Kennedy. The defending attorney, Gerry Spence, whom Bugliosi called “one of the finest criminal defense attorneys in the world,” needed to find the reasonable doubt.

“We fought it out,” said Spence.

“It was a powerful experience—as real as a real trial because it was a real trial with real witnesses who had never had a chance to testify before, a real federal judge, a real jury from Texas, and a really fine prosecutor.”

Bugliosi noted that he and Spence both spent five months working on the mock trial.

http://www.lawcrossing.com/article/1283/Prosecutor-Vincent-Bugliosi-Writes-New-Book-on-JFK/
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Gee, it seems our conspiracy theorist is mistaken. I'm shocked, shocked!
 
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The only thing 7 has proven is that his mom has good taste when it comes to basement flooring.
 
The government's wound path is impossible

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7 is lost forever in his fantasy.
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A thousand lone nuts could say I'm wrong but it still proves nothing because not one person on here will challenge what makes the most sense. The angle from the window is right to left therefore is not a possible angle for the official entrance and exit. I have this beat from every side, which includes the north grassy knoll.

Oswald's view...right to left impossible

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Groden's pic apparently depicts both impossible angles by the government but the headshot is paramount and it's not possible from the right to left angle from the sixth floor.

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The left to right angle is theoretically possible but is the opposite angle from the 6th floor. THEY LIED.

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THIS IS THE LONE NUT FANTASY RIGHT HERE, ILLUSTRATED CLEARLY AND DEFINITELY. IT IS TOTAL AND COMPLETE BS. IT DID NOT HAPPEN THIS WAY BECAUSE THE SHOT CAME FROM THE FRONT.
 
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The driver killed kennedy beyond any doubt

It's totally obvious that the driver fired the fatal shot. That's just common sense. The only thing that a jury would need to conclude this fact is eliminating every other theory which I have done with ease. The north grassy knoll is the real enemy to the truth not the shot from the rear because no honest person believes the fatal shot came from the rear. It just didn't happen that way.

The grassy knoll was a right side shot, not a front shot. The angle from the fence would have exited the left side of his head, not the right rear. Hollywood helped the government push a lie that was closer to the truth but still a lie.

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I proved my case without any challenge!

Nobody can touch the truth and never will. Insults prove you have nothing and no defense. I disproved every known theory and the driver is the only shooter left standing.LOL Greer and Specter talk about the wound path only Greer could have fired. It wraps around this great and ironic account from the killer himself.:D


Mr. Specter.
Did you just mention, Mr. Greer, a hole in the President's head in addition to the large area of the skull which was shot away?
Mr. Greer.
No. I had just seen that, you know, the head was damaged in all this part of it but I believe looking at the X-rays, I looked at the X-rays when they were taken in the autopsy room, and the person who does that type work showed us the trace of it because there would be little specks of lead where the bullet had come from here and it came to the--they showed where it didn't come on through. It came to a sinus cavity or something they said, over the eye.
Mr. Specter.
Indicating the right eye. (GREER POINTED OVER HIS RIGHT EYE):D
Mr. Greer.
I may be wrong.
Mr. Specter.
You don't know which eye?
Mr. Greer.
I don't know which eye, I may be wrong. But they showed us the trace of it coming through but there were very little small specks on the X-rays that these professionals knew what course that the bullet had taken, the lead.Mr. Specter.
Would you describe in very general terms what injury you observed as to the President's head during the course of the autopsy?
Mr. Greer.
I would--to the best of my recollection it was in this part of the head right here.
Mr. Specter.
Upper right?
Mr. Greer.
Upper right side.
Mr. Specter.
Upper right side, going toward the rear. And what was the condition of the skull at that point?
Mr. Greer.
The skull was completely--this part was completely gone.
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I'll tell you what makes perfect sense, my forum-spamming friend.

Space aliens.

No lie! Space aliens were so incensed at JFK's declararion of a moon landing program they fired an orbiting laser beam at the Dallas motorcade.

This is why we had to fake the moon landings. No WAY were we going to risk their wrath again!
 
7forever said:
A thousand lone nuts could say I'm wrong but it still proves nothing because not one person on here will challenge what makes the most sense. The angle from the window is right to left therefore is not a possible angle for the official entrance and exit. I have this beat from every side, which includes the north grassy knoll.
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All the repetitive useless silly ignorant crap crapped to save bandwidth.
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Way back when.... in 1993, with a full-scale drawing of Dealey Plaza made from architectural drawings, placing the limosine at the Z-313 location, with Oswald at the 6th floor Texas School Book Depository window, this is the view.
Everyone but the most deluded will and have found this fits ALL the parameters for the head shot.
The bullet transits JFK's head from the rear, exits to hit the windshield chrome, where an indentation that a 6.5mm bullet nose was fitted, breaks up, with some particles hitting the windshield on the inside, some falling down into the right front seat area, and at least going forward over the windshield to lightly tap Tague on his cheek.
The bullet fragments found in the front seat area have CE-numbers, BTW.
You really don't know jack this, do you.
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7forever said:
A thousand lone nuts could say I'm wrong but it still proves nothing because not one person on here will challenge what makes the most sense. The angle from the window is right to left therefore is not a possible angle for the official entrance and exit. I have this beat from every side, which includes the north grassy knoll.
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Uh...people here have been challenging you. You're just too stubborn to acknowledge it.

The actual seating alignment of the limo removes any need for magic bullets of limo driver assassins. I don't get where you're coming from on this. Do you or do you not acknowledge the real alignment? If you do, why do you keep showing the image of the magic bullet path and the wrong alignment?

Does it give you even a moment's pause that the plot you have contrived for the conspirators makes absolutely no sense? Why would they frame Oswald as the lone gunman but have the limo driver involved in full view of everyone??? Why not just let Oswald handle all the shooting and let the chips fall where they may?

Maybe if you post the same collection of odd, perverse and meaningless pictures another 30 or 40 times here it will eventually sink in to our thick heads, but wouldn't your time be better spent going to the press or the authorities with your slam dunk case?
 
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