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JFK Conspiracy Theories: It Never Ends

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TheRedWorm said:
I asked this one a couple of times, but you didn't even acknowledge the post. Please do so now.




Can you give me a plausible action behind all the shots fired that day?
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Oh, there are all kinds of plausible actions but your question lacks specificity. If you are asking for a exact locations, shooters and number of shots, I only answer that I have proven beyond any reasonable doubt, in several ways, nine ways to Sunday, that it was a conspiracy. That it was not a solo event because the Odio incident notwithstandfing, there was more than one shooter.
 
Robert Prey said:
Oh, there are all kinds of plausible actions but your question lacks specificity. If you are asking for a exact locations, shooters and number of shots, I only answer that I have proven beyond any reasonable doubt, in several ways, nine ways to Sunday, that it was a conspiracy. That it was not a solo event because the Odio incident notwithstandfing, there was more than one shooter.
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Looks like we need a Shot Myself in the Foot with My Own Evidence award and a Walked Off the Cliff Because of My Blindfold one also.

Whatever will your next escapade be, Robert?
 
RoboTimbo said:
I think I may see why Robert has been such a failure at explaining the shot we see in the Zapruder film.

Robert, in this video at about 5:30 which direction do you think the bullet is coming from?
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It appears to going left to right, through a mass of jello, like crap thorugh a goose, with no jet effect because the consistency of jello won't do that. But the right temple of a human skull will.
 
Consistancy is an issue. Burden of proof is a larger one. He seems to have trouble telling when somebody is saying a statement is a lie and when they are asking for evidence it is true.

I wonder why he assumes it is the worlds job to prove him wrong and not his job to provide evidence.

All his evidence consists of statements. Coroboration is limited in worth, because it can not usurpmaterial evidence. The corpse of JFK is the best evidence, not people who claim to have seen it. The autopsy has photographs that can be tested and verified.

The excuse your evidence is buried, whitewashed or covered up is a special pleading. It all just means that all you have, all you can offer is speculation. You have no way of knowing that the Parkland witnesses are not the conspirators telling naughty lies to dishonour the upstanding pathologists.
 
Walter Ego said:
Robert quoted that very same forensic website on entrance and exit wounds. He probably wishes he hadn't because the Zapruter film directly contradicts his claim about a shot from the front.



The highlighted text describes exactly what we see in the Z film. Robert, I note, has been seesawing between saying the film does show a shot to the front of the head and that it's a Rorschach test that shows whatever you want it to show... but then consistency is not his strong point (to put it mildly).
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Perhaps you missed this -- the quarter inch entrance wound, round, symmetrical, just like it's a typical entrance wound.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ojkl...=i2y7MGtleKY
 
Robert Prey said:
It appears to going left to right, through a mass of jello, like crap thorugh a goose, with no jet effect because the consistency of jello won't do that. But the right temple of a human skull will.
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If there are no jet effects, why did you post the video originally claiming jet effects?
 
Robert Prey said:
It appears to going left to right, through a mass of jello, like crap thorugh a goose, with no jet effect because the consistency of jello won't do that. But the right temple of a human skull will.
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You know that is ballistics jelly, a medium designed to analogue human tissue. It acts exactly like human flesh. Like on your temple.

Does steel plate act exactly like a human body?
 
Walter Ego said:
Robert quoted that very same forensic website on entrance and exit wounds. He probably wishes he hadn't because the Zapruter film directly contradicts his claim about a shot from the front.



The highlighted text describes exactly what we see in the Z film. Robert, I note, has been seesawing between saying the film does show a shot to the front of the head and that it's a Rorschach test that shows whatever you want it to show... but then consistency is not his strong point (to put it mildly).
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Perhaps you missed this. I shows the entrance wound, about a quarter of an inch in diameter, rounded, symmetrical, just like an entrance wound should be as previously described.

(go to previous page if the url doesn't come up).

http://www.youtube.com/verify_age?n...F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Di2y7MGtleKY
 
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The original autopsy photos, which according to the photographers, are not the ones they took, are classified till the year 2017.
 
And is behind JFK's ear.
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Way back when when I got interested in this crap, I found that some knowledge of photography, anatomy, forensics, architecture and human behavior would be nice for anyone to have.
RP has none of this knowledge.
 

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Walter Ego said:
Another Stundie from Robert. The kid has a talent.

The original autopsy photos cannot be both untampered with and tampered with at the same time. And they are not classified either. Remember that JFK Records Act I mentioned earlier?

Or maybe the tampered with photos are unclassified and the untampered with photos are classified. It's hard to tell. Robert World is an odd place .
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The original autopsy photos are classified till 2017.
 
A Suitable Case For Treatment?

RoboTimbo said:
Looks like we need a Shot Myself in the Foot with My Own Evidence award and a Walked Off the Cliff Because of My Blindfold one also.

Whatever will your next escapade be, Robert?
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Many, many pages ago, I expressed the wish that Robert deliver that Final Nail, hopefully before Thanksgiving, so we could wrap this thread up and move on but the recent turn of events re the Z film and those entrance and exit wounds is providing so much chock-full-of-kook infotainment that maybe we can prolong this a bit if only to see what other hilarity Robert can provide.

It would be nice (and appropriate) to set the 22nd as deadline for that final belly laff from Mr. P, but that's beyond my control. Let me also note that Robert does seem serene in his own mind that he has proved his case for conspiracy (beyond a reasonable doubt, no less) but that's not much of an accomplishment when you can tailor reality to your own ends, picking what you need and discarding what you don't.

Robert Prey said:
My assumptions are correct and being common knowledge, are immune from attack.
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Yeah, he really said that. Robert should be studied by scientists for the good of mankind. He is a textbook example of the conspiracy mind lock. I'm sure he'd enjoy all the attention too.
 
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Tomtomkent said:
Wait... you aren't saying lots of people could have looked at something, said it indicated onething and been wrong are you? What if it was a big number like 20? Surely you would need material evidence to support a claim like that.

Now I wonder how that reflects on Parkland.
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In a court of law, with 20 witnesses each independently corroborating the same observations, would be a slam dunk.
 
Robert Prey said:
The original autopsy photos are classified till 2017.
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The Zapruder film isn't. Why does it show the massive exit wound out the right front of Kennedy's skull?

Your whole house of cards has fallen into the basement, Robert. Your failure to answer that simple question is proof.

So when are we going to get your Running Away Tail Between Your Legs post with the Promised Nail?
 
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The original autopsy photos are classified till 2017.
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True, but most of them have been leaked.

On November 23, 1963, James K. Fox, photographer with the Intelligence Division of the US Secret Service, was given the autopsy film holders by JFK's personal physician, Admiral George Burkley, and told to develop them. On three occassions, he supervised their processing. According to Fox, Secret Service Agent Roy Kellerman said to make himself copies as they would be history someday. He made three sets of black and white autopsy photo prints at the Secret Service lab. On November 27, 1963, additional official copies were made at the National Photographic Interpretation Center (NPIC).

In 1981, those pictures were sold to JFK researcher Mark Crouch. During this time copies of the photos were given to several JFK researchers. Fox died in 1987. Writer David Lifton published the Fox set in "Best Evidence" (1988 Carrol & Graf Reprint). Later the photos were published in other books. Crouch retired from research in 1993 and sold his JFK assassination collection, including negatives made from the photos, to researcher Walt Brown who continues to make them available to researchers.

http://www.jfklancer.com/photos/autopsy_slideshow/index.html
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There are also color photos purloined and sold for big bucks by assassination ghoul and conspiracy huckster Robert Groden.

The color photos were obtained by JFK researcher and amateur photographer Robert Groden who served as an upaid consultant to the House Select Committee on Assassinations. Groden photographed the color autopsy photos without permission. Groden was paid by "The Globe" tabloid at their 1991 printing of those photos and has also published them in his books
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Yes, the photos in circulation ARE the official autopsy photos.
Unofficially obtained and reproduced.
RP is now shifting to the other foot as his target.
 
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