JFK Conspiracy Theories: It Never Ends

[Robert Prey]

And yet we see the front of Kennedy's head being blown up in the Zapruder film.

You see what you want to see. That's why I rely on the un-impeachable observations of the Parkland Witnesses.

 

[Tomtomkent]

Here's an idea for you. Fill a balloon with water to the point where it might burst Then place the balloon about once inch from your face. Then take a needle and burst the balloon right in front of your face. If you get a face-full of water, you have just experience the "jet effect."

You're welcome.

Now lets compare the effect to "back splatter" from a rifle shot. Infact let's use the description of entrance and exit wounds that Rob himself posted.

Amazingly the large ejection of body matter in the film is not consistent with the description of an entry wound. As RP described it in his own source. Neither does the film at any point show the back of JFKs head exploding outwards in a catastrophic exit wound that removed all brain matter. (Remember the quote from the guy who was suppossed to clean out the brain said it was not there, and other quotes suggest it was largely gone).

So we have jet effect ejection on entry but no catastrophic exit wound consistent with the fatal shot. Or the fatal shot has not been caught on film meaning mrs kennedy waspicking up brains that had yet to be splattered.

Or the explosive ejection consistent with an exit wound was an exit wound, and the autopsy was correct, which of course means the statements not supported by material evidence were wrong.

 

[RoboTimbo]

You see what you want to see. That's why I rely on the un-impeachable observations of the Parkland Witnesses.

No, we see reality. You see a delusional CT.

Why does the right front of Kennedy's head blow out?

 

[Tomtomkent]

You see what you want to see. That's why I rely on the un-impeachable observations of the Parkland Witnesses.

Then where is the material evidence they are unimpeachable? Where is the evidence they could not have been wrong and everybody else was?

 

[Robert Prey]

How can you be objective about yourself?

Why does the Zapruder film contradict your quotes about the back part of Kennedy's head having the large wound? You've never answered that.

The Z film is a rorschach test. It can mean whatever you want it to mean. Perhaps it's a vagina.

 

[Dave Rogers]

You see what you want to see. That's why I rely on the un-impeachable observations of the Parkland Witnesses.

Am I the only one who sees the contradiction inherent in this pair of statements?

Dave

 

[Robert Prey]

Then where is the material evidence they are unimpeachable? Where is the evidence they could not have been wrong and everybody else was?

Mostly dead an buried, or classified to the year umteen thousand.

 

[EventHorizon]

Am I the only one who sees the contradiction inherent in this pair of statements?

Dave

Not at all. I'm still trying to figure out which of the statements to nominate for a Stundie though. There are way too many to choose from.

 

[uke2se]

You see what you want to see. That's why I rely on the un-impeachable observations of the Parkland Witnesses.

You mean witnesses that might remember wrong, be lying or be misquoted vs infallible video evidence?


Yeah, you lose I'm afraid.

 

[Walter Ego]

Am I the only one who sees the contradiction inherent in this pair of statements?

Dave

Translation: The Zapruter does not show an exit wound on the back of Kennedy's head so I'm going to deny the evidence I can see with my eyes and rely on the contradictory statements from my "unimpeachable" Parkland witnesses most of whom later admitted they were mistaken because it supports my conspiracy theory.

 

[RoboTimbo]

The Z film is a rorschach test. It can mean whatever you want it to mean. Perhaps it's a vagina.

Your failures have reduced you to resorting to the absurd. The Zapruder film is in no way a Rorschach test. Why do you think it is?

Answer the question. Why does the right front of Kennedy's skull blow out from an exit wound as seen in the Zapruder film?

 

[Tomtomkent]

Mostly dead an buried, or classified to the year umteen thousand.

So you don't have the evidence. And yet you are able to know which narrative is true with out seeing it, or producing it?

How?

You argue people see what they want to in a film. Everybody else in the world is fallible except your witnesses. What makes their psychology and cognitive skills different from everybody else in the world? Or is there a double standard in your reasoning where everybody is truthful, honest and above all correct ONLY if their story fits your narrative?

 

[Walter Ego]

Your failures have reduced you to resorting to the absurd. The Zapruder film is in no way a Rorschach test. Why do you think it is?

Countdown to when Robert is going to pull out the "evidence" of Uncle Jim Fetzer (one of his "experts"), author of The Great Zapruder Film Hoax: Deceit and Deception in the Death of JFK , and claim the Zapruter film is a fake.

3... 2.... 1...​

 

[Tomtomkent]

You mean witnesses that might remember wrong, be lying or be misquoted vs infallible video evidence?


Yeah, you lose I'm afraid.

No only the ones whose narrative disagrees with RPs do that.


By the way, RP nevere adressed a lot of issues. Not least his "proof" of conspiracy being guys "complicate" with LHO wanting to shoot JFK.

Except he later argued LHO did not even hold the rifle and photographs had to be faked to connect LHO to a plan he never had.

Which means the Odio statement can not have been about guys complicate with LHO doinganything like RP claimed.

So where IS the evidence of conspiracy? Seriously, evereything RP claims relies on a conspiracy. Faked photos, planted rifle, dead mens palmprint, fake autopsy, all of it is "buroed", "whitewashed" and "covered up". But with no evidence of conspiracy. And the conspiracy that was advocated? Not the same one.

Did two guys who happened to be complicate do all this?

Or did RP hope we would forget he proved A conspiracy, before describing A DIFFERENT conspiracy?

 

[Tomtomkent]

Am I the only one who sees the contradiction inherent in this pair of statements?

Dave

Apparently RP can't. Apparently we all see what we want. Except the people he needs to be infallible. The evidence that contradicts him are all liars or whitewashes, with out material evidence to support it.

How fun it is.

 

[Walter Ego]

Originally Posted by Robert Prey

Mostly dead an buried, or classified to the year umteen thousand.

Robert is grasping at straws. 99.99 percent of the documents relating to the JFK assassination have been released by the Freedom of Information Act and later by the JFK Records Act. The documents have been available for years and yet the conspiracy proponents have found no trace of a conspiracy.

Robert will claim of course it will be in that fraction of one per cent of documents still withheld or redacted that will contain the proof of the validity of his "unimpeachable" Parkland witnesses.

 

[Tomtomkent]

Answer the question. Why does the right front of Kennedy's skull blow out from an exit wound as seen in the Zapruder film?

Why does so much ejected matter not suggest the small entry wound proposed byhis statements?

Why is there no massive ejection on the exit wound?

Why did all the folks who coroborated the film "lie"?

 

[Robert Prey]

You mean witnesses that might remember wrong, be lying or be misquoted vs infallible video evidence?


Yeah, you lose I'm afraid.

Like the rest of your Amen chorus, you are long on accusations, and short of specifics. Name one witness I have cited who you claim is lying or mis-quoted, or changed story and prove it. Just one. I'm sure I'll be waiting till hell freezes over.

 

[RoboTimbo]

Like the rest of your Amen chorus, you are long on accusations, and short of specifics. Name one witness I have cited who you claim is lying or mis-quoted, or changed story and prove it. Just one. I'm sure I'll be waiting till hell freezes over.

You haven't quite got the theory of what a strawman is, but you're perfecting the practice of it.

Why does the Zapruder film show an exit wound in the right front of Kennedy's skull while your witness quotes say there was no wound there? How do you account for the contradicion?

 

[Robert Prey]

GrassyKnoll Bullet Proved

Your failures have reduced you to resorting to the absurd. The Zapruder film is in no way a Rorschach test. Why do you think it is?

Answer the question. Why does the right front of Kennedy's skull blow out from an exit wound as seen in the Zapruder film?

Shot from the Grassy Knoll-- Proved. Again​

I know this is useless to those who refuse to accept the plain truth, even when it's so obvious, but I'm going to point out one more time with specific examples of how the frontal impact of that fatal bullet to the right temple had to create a jet effect of blood and tissue. This is what must happen as you can see in the following slow-motion video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfDoQwIAaXg