Merged So there was melted steel

[Zeuzzz]

Bah, wrong thread

 

[NoahFence]

Do you accept that automobiles could account for the metal? Not all of it of course, but a good deal of it?

Do you accept that the subway could account for a steady flow of oxygen?

 

[Zeuzzz]

Do you accept that automobiles could account for the metal? Not all of it of course, but a good deal of it?

Yes I can accept that, considering the underground car parks we know existed. But what sort of metal are you proposing was the primary fuel for the furnaces?

Do you accept that the subway could account for a steady flow of oxygen?

Yes, maybe for a day or so, but not a chance for six weeks worth of O2 fuel!

 

[The Platypus]

Do you accept that automobiles could account for the metal? Not all of it of course, but a good deal of it?

Do you accept that the subway could account for a steady flow of oxygen?

That's crazy talk!

People online say that it was Israeli, reptilian shapeshifting alien, globalist elite bankers from the freemasons and the illuminati, working with Bush and Cheney, using super top secret futuristic technology like space beams, HAARP and super nano therm?te and that's the "truth"!

 

[Mr. Skinny]

Yes I can accept that, considering the underground car parks we know existed. But what sort of metal are you proposing was the primary fuel for the furnaces?

Metal makes poor fuel. However, car interiors, gasoline, office furnishings, plastics, etc. burn rather well

Yes, maybe for a day or so, but not a chance for six weeks worth of O2 fuel!

Why not? No one sealed the subway tunnels post collapse.

 

[NoahFence]

Yes I can accept that, considering the underground car parks we know existed. But what sort of metal are you proposing was the primary fuel for the furnaces?

Who said metal was fuel? I didn't. If I had to propose what was the fuel, I'd say the rubber which is known to be a pain to put out, along with paper, and every other combustable in there.

Yes, maybe for a day or so, but not a chance for six weeks worth of O2 fuel!

Was the subway blocked off in some manner upstream / downstream from the site? I didn't think of that, but common sense would again say it's unlikely. There were unaffected train stations before and after the WTC that were no doubt still in use.

 

[Zeuzzz]

Why not? No one sealed the subway tunnels post collapse.

Do we have accounts of people traveling down subway tunnels all the way to points of collapse and damage? would be nice to see maps/plans of the subway tunnels in relation to the world trade centers, including information on their depth.

 

[NoahFence]

Do we have accounts of people traveling down subway tunnels all the way to points of collapse and damage? would be nice to see maps/plans of the subway tunnels in relation to the world trade centers, including information on their depth.

Just tell us at what point you'll be convinced of something without us having to account for the next thing you just thought of, and we'll say it.

 

[The Platypus]

Do we have accounts of people traveling down subway tunnels all the way to points of collapse and damage? would be nice to see maps/plans of the subway tunnels in relation to the world trade centers, including information on their depth.

Wow, the goalposts are moving all over the place...

 

[LSSBB]

Was the subway blocked off in some manner upstream / downstream from the site? I didn't think of that, but common sense would again say it's unlikely. There were unaffected train stations before and after the WTC that were no doubt still in use.

Also, there were not just subways, there were all sorts of piping, conduit, service access and what have you.

 

[Zeuzzz]

Ok i'm convinced that a few underground fires could have had enough oxygen supplied to stay sustained (six weeks however (if true) seems like a very long time for the dispersed fuel). The rubble above them was not a solid mass, there would have been numerous air holes and pipes as stated above to keep fires going underground for a short time.

Its the NASA data released to the whitehouse and government agencies that I want to see to clarify the temperature scale on colors in the AVIRIS thermal image of ground zero.

 

[DGM]

I would very much like to see that data so I can understand the temperature scale attributed to the pictures, I presume that the "White House and other government agencies" released it at sometime in their extensive investigations?

I think you need to explain to me why I should respond to you (or take you seriously) after you added this moronic statement? Bottom line, Why should I waste my time on you?

 

[Zeuzzz]

I think you need to explain to me why I should respond to you (or take you seriously) after you added this moronic statement? Bottom line, Why should I waste my time on you?

I don't know the answer to that maybe just put me on ignore if you want to ignore my posts or questions?

 

[DGM]

I don't know the answer to that maybe just put me on ignore if you want to ignore my posts or questions?

Maybe you should just ask a question. Why did you add the "White House" bit?

 

[Zeuzzz]

Maybe you should just ask a question. Why did you add the "White House" bit?

I didn't personally add that bit it was more a quote, as my above post 1415 shows. The "White House" bit was based on the data that "NASA scientists, Robert Green and Frank Loiza" sent to the White House (source: St. Louis Post-Dispatch, 2/10/2002)

 

[DGM]

I didn't personally add that bit it was more a quote, as my above post 1415 shows. The "White House" bit was based on the data that "NASA scientists, Robert Green and Frank Loiza" sent to the White House (source: St. Louis Post-Dispatch, 2/10/2002)

If you want the data, why don't you just look it up? You found the picture you posted. (It is on-line).

 

[Zeuzzz]

If you want the data, why don't you just look it up? You found the picture you posted. (It is on-line).

Because DGM this is a forum. A lot of people here that have been active for years are a lot more knowledgeable about such matters as me (I've only just started re-engaging in this for a week or so).

If I find a bogus site claiming to have the data that is a spurious twoofer site then I'll get the rap for endorsing such a site here. I'd rather ask.

 

[DGM]

Because DGM this is a forum. A lot of people here that have been active for years are a lot more knowledgeable about such matters as me (I've only just started re-engaging in this for a week or so).

If I find a bogus site claiming to have the data that is a spurious twoofer site then I'll get the rap for endorsing such a site here. I'd rather ask.

So are you just lazy? You found the picture you quoted, why ask us what the source was? You're getting into this late in the game. Why should I do all your work for you? In high school, did you have your teachers carry your books? Welcome to the adult world.

 

[Zeuzzz]

You found the picture you quoted, why ask us what the source was?

I know the exact source: NASA AVIRIS thermal image of ground zero on 9/16/01.

You're getting into this late in the game.

I know.

Why should I do all your work for you?

You don't have to. Answering my questions would be nice, however.

In high school, did you have your teachers carry your books?

I didn't go to "high school". I went to College, and then subsequently University.

Welcome to the adult world.

Bonjour.

 

[DGM]

Bonjour.

J'espère que vous éventuellement trouver votre chemin