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Jobless Occutards Going On Strike In Oakland

Anyone think this will be anything other than a massive failure?

They definitely need a better organized leadership. The Occupy movement may well become the Civil Rights Movement of the 21st century, if the PTB continue to grind down the poor and the middle classes the way they are currently.
 
Yeah, funny thing...I've talked to about 20-30 occutards in 2 different cities. About 90% were unemployed, or at least claimed to be. Sounds like we've had very different experiences.

And whose fault is it we have lots of unemployed?

Here's a hint, genius...it isn't the hard-working men and women of the US lower classes. The ones who have worked hard, played by the "rules", and have been rewarded with a pink slip and an eviction notice.

Meanwhile the 1% continue to vacuum up ever increasing amounts of what wealth remains in our economy.

What are the rest of us supposed to do, Central? I know you're an Establishment/Corporatist camp follower, so I could easily guess, but just what do you suggest the suffering poor and working people do? Just take it?

The lower classes in this country have been pushed to the brink...now they're pushing back, and the Powers That Be don't like it.
 
If the top 1% really wants to shut them all up (assuming the Occupy protesters really are mostly jobless) they could start creating all those jobs they promised back when the Bush tax cuts were extended.

QFT!
 
How do you expect to generate jobs by having rich kids smoke pot and sleep in parks? Only jobs they're providing is overtime for the police.
 
Looks like things got exciting after dark:

12:14 a.m. Fire truck arrives; explosions fill the air

A fire truck has arrived to douse the burning barricade and the protest has devolved into a chaotic scene with witnesses reporting explosions and panicked people running down the streets.

One reporter said the explosions are from protesters throwing fireworks on the fire, but others report flash bangs and tear gas. A police officer said protesters were throwing M80s.

2 a.m. Dozens arrested

Interim police chief Howard Jordan says between 30 and 40 people have been arrested in downtown Oakland, although he could not provide an exact number.

Police have also reclaimed the Traveler's Aid building, as he said protesters were preparing to light the building on fire.

Burn, baby, burn.
 
How do you expect to generate jobs by having rich kids smoke pot and sleep in parks? Only jobs they're providing is overtime for the police.

I don't think the OWS protests were specifically intended as a tool for creating jobs. I think they were, in fact, originally intended to be protests.
 
Coverage of Oakland by those evil liberals north of the border. (For those of you tired of getting your "news" from the reactionary broadsheets.)


http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2011/11/03/occupy-wall-street-oakland-port.html


The Oakland protests became a rallying point for the far-flung movement last week when an Iraq War veteran was injured in clashes with police in riot gear that included multiple volleys of tear gas, reports of "flash bang" grenades and rubber bullets.

In Philadelphia, protesters were arrested earlier Wednesday as they held a sit-in at the headquarters of cable giant Comcast.

Military veterans marched in uniform in New York, angry at their dim job prospects. And parents and their kids, some in strollers, joined the Oakland rallies by forming a "children's brigade."

And for those of you who need your dose of "Foul Hippie Anarchists", please not that the article does cover that aspect. Labor Unions are notorious for being breeding grounds for radicals, ever since the 1890s in Homestead, as we all know.

Longshoreman's union supports protesters
Craig Merrilees, spokesman for the International Longshore and Warehouse Union, said its members were not being called to strike, but that they supported the protesters.

The members "are supporting the concerns raised by Occupy Oakland and the Occupy movement to speak up for the 99 per cent and against the corporate greed that is wrecking America," Merrilees said.

As protesters left the area on foot some stopped to burn money, others bickered, and one burned an American flag.

Zachary RunningWolf, a well-known Bay Area activist, said he burned the flag "to start an educated discussion among us."

The day's events in Oakland began with a rally outside City Hall that drew more than 3,000 people who spilled into the streets and disrupted the downtown commute. Protesters hung a large black banner that read: "Occupy Everything, DEATH TO CAPITALISM."

The crowd included students, families with young children and many people wearing labour union T-shirts. "Shut down the 1 per cent. We are the 99 per cent," they chanted.
 
How do you expect to generate jobs by having rich kids smoke pot and sleep in parks? Only jobs they're providing is overtime for the police.

It was the top 1% that promised to create all those jobs if only they could get tax cuts.

Well they got those tax cuts. If they really are the engine that runs the country's economy this is their chance to do it.
 
How do you expect to generate jobs by having rich kids smoke pot and sleep in parks? Only jobs they're providing is overtime for the police.

see, in contrary to the rich alleged job creaters thanks to taxbreaks, the OWS atleast created jobs without taxbreakes.
 
And whose fault is it we have lots of unemployed?

Not mine.

Here's a hint, genius

Thanks! Have we met?

...it isn't the hard-working men and women of the US lower classes.

It isn't? So absolutely none of the unemployed are at fault for not having a job?

...The ones who have worked hard, played by the "rules", and have been rewarded with a pink slip and an eviction notice.

That's life. Should a business losing money keep a person employed just to be nice?

Meanwhile the 1% continue to vacuum up ever increasing amounts of what wealth remains in our economy.

And paying a large chunk of the taxes. I'm working hard to become part of the 1%. How about you?

What are the rest of us supposed to do, Central?

Get a job. Work hard. Save. Stop whining.

I know you're an Establishment/Corporatist camp follower, so I could easily guess, but just what do you suggest the suffering poor and working people do? Just take it?

"Corporatist"? Is that even a word? I have no idea what it means. Also, what is the "establishment"?

The lower classes in this country have been pushed to the brink...now they're pushing back, and the Powers That Be don't like it.

I'm pretty sure the "powers that be" aren't terribly frightened by a couple dozen hippies and trust fun kiddies camping out in a park.
 
Yes, because america is overflowing with job vacancies at present. I quite liked how Bill Maher phrased this - the "bend over and take it, america!" attitude.

We just finished our last round of holiday hiring. Out of about sixty available jobs we managed to fill twenty-seven of them. Of that twenty seven, I'm willing to bet about a dozen of them come to the realization that working sucks and just disappear. It's retail, so it isn't like our standards are ridiculously high. The current batch of unemployed people around here would rather collect their unemployment than work. Scrut's get a job, work hard, etc. statement might be a little simplistic, but you have to realize the concept is still lost on a lot of people these days.

I'm bending over and taking it all right. I'll have to pull that slack once it starts getting busy.
 
Yes, because america is overflowing with job vacancies at present. I quite liked how Bill Maher phrased this - the "bend over and take it, america!" attitude.

Ah, of course, there are no jobs (Pssst: Except there are. Don't tell anyone). It was only a few years ago that we had full employment. Perhaps these people should have saved more. At some point, we are responsible for ourselves. There have been plenty of times in my life when I wasn't working. At no time did I look to the government to provide me with a job.
 
Yes, because america is overflowing with job vacancies at present. I quite liked how Bill Maher phrased this - the "bend over and take it, america!" attitude.

Perhaps this is a quirk of British English vs. American English, but "unemployment" is not spelled "job vacancies" here.
 
We just finished our last round of holiday hiring. Out of about sixty available jobs we managed to fill twenty-seven of them. Of that twenty seven, I'm willing to bet about a dozen of them come to the realization that working sucks and just disappear. It's retail, so it isn't like our standards are ridiculously high. The current batch of unemployed people around here would rather collect their unemployment than work. Scrut's get a job, work hard, etc. statement might be a little simplistic, but you have to realize the concept is still lost on a lot of people these days.

I'm bending over and taking it all right. I'll have to pull that slack once it starts getting busy.

Anecdotes are nice, but i'd need to see the figures on job vacancies versus unemployment to know if this was the exception or the rule.

Ah, of course, there are no jobs (Pssst: Except there are. Don't tell anyone). It was only a few years ago that we had full employment. Perhaps these people should have saved more. At some point, we are responsible for ourselves. There have been plenty of times in my life when I wasn't working. At no time did I look to the government to provide me with a job.

Maybe you have some figures? If you can show me that there are enough jobs available for most people, either in their areas or outside their areas but paying enough to fund a move, i'll concede the point.

Perhaps this is a quirk of British English vs. American English, but "unemployment" is not spelled "job vacancies" here.

Indeed, as that would be silly. However, I didn't spell "unemployment" as "job vacancies", I spelt "job vacancies" as "job vacancies". What with it consisting of the same letters, I assumed this to be a given. My point is that if there are vacancies everywhere you have licence to call the unemployed lazy, but if not, it gets a bit more complicated than that.
 
Anecdotes are nice, but i'd need to see the figures on job vacancies versus unemployment to know if this was the exception or the rule.


For some reason I have come to the conclusion that even if these figures were readily available this would still be a waste of my increasingly valuable time. ;)

Anecdote or not, we're a stones' throw from Milwaukee, Wisconsin's biggest unemployment sink, and people can't be arsed to fill the vacancies we currently have. What we need is a movement called "Occupy the Workplace".
 

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