Herman Cain leads by 20 points!

[mhaze]

The thing is, you can't count on an endorsement to deliver all of your votes to the chosen candidate. While Paul and some other failed candidates might support Cain, there is still a reasonably sizable contingent of the GOP that will never support a black candidate.....

Oh yeah, naw, they would never have supported Colin Powell, no way. Oh ya, no, they would never have supported a Condy Rice run, no of course not.

OR THE PREJUDICE AND ERRONEOUS THINKING IS STRICTLY IN YOUR OWN MIND.

 

[tyr_13]

Oh yeah, naw, they would never have supported Colin Powell, no way. Oh ya, no, they would never have supported a Condy Rice run, no of course not.

OR THE PREJUDICE AND ERRONEOUS THINKING IS STRICTLY IN YOUR OWN MIND.

That's right, those are clear examples of the GOP base electing black politicians...

Oh wait, they were both appointed.

Nevermind.

 

[Ladewig]

Both of those Cain adds are bizarre. In the first one, what's the point of the guy taking a drag off a cigarette?

Perhaps I am reading too much into it, but I suspect that the Cain folks are playing on the anti-government-regulation sentiment that smokers often have.

 

[bikerdruid]

we are nearly at 2012.
is there any chance that the republians are going to field a seriously viable candidate?

 

[Tricky]

Oh yeah, naw, they would never have supported Colin Powell, no way. Oh ya, no, they would never have supported a Condy Rice run, no of course not.

OR THE PREJUDICE AND ERRONEOUS THINKING IS STRICTLY IN YOUR OWN MIND.

Well we don't know, do we, seeing as how neither has ever run for office. So your claim is strictly in your own mind.

 

[MaGZ]

Both of those Cain adds are bizarre. In the first one, what's the point of the guy taking a drag off a cigarette?

In the second one, while I understand much of it was a spoof on westerns, the actor comes off as a bit a bit of a schmuck when he snarls at the girl who forgot the straw for his drink, "You wanna keep your job?" and at the make-up girl, "Like you'd know." Again, I understand it's a spoof on Hollywood types, but why would you want to listen to this dope?

The meaning of the Cain ad is: there is no message, the joke’s on you.

 

[Tricky]

The meaning of the Cain ad is: there is no message, the joke’s on you.

You think? Cain's telling us "I don't have a message, I have a comedy skit". Nice.

 

[TimCallahan]

If you thought Cain's commercials were weird, consider this response of his to charges of sexual harassment.

 

[Vorticity]

Another day, another poll here (same site as yesterday) their average of various polls is now:

Cain 26.0 %
Romney 25.5
Perry 12.5
Gingrich 9.2
Paul 8.5
Bachman 4.8
Huntsman 2.0
Santorum 1.6
undecided 9.9

Alas, still no love for Gary Johnson.

His major problem seems to be that he's unambiguously non-crazy.

 

[Alferd_Packer]

So after the latest series of gaffes and scandals, how fast will the Candy Cane fall?

NEXT!

Your'e up, Newt!

Hey batter, batter.

 

[Newtons Bit]

Alas, still no love for Gary Johnson.

His major problem seems to be that he's unambiguously non-crazy.

But still crazy in many ways. I heard a number of interviews with him on 94 Rock. And while he may have been playing the part for that particular show, he did come across as moderately loony-tunes when it came to marijuana.

 

[Vorticity]

But still crazy in many ways. I heard a number of interviews with him on 94 Rock. And while he may have been playing the part for that particular show, he did come across as moderately loony-tunes when it came to marijuana.

Unless there's some hidden agenda I'm too lazy to unearth, that's the issue on which I agree with him the most. From his site:

Despite our best efforts at enforcement, education and interdiction, people continue to use and abuse illegal drugs.

The parallels between drug policy today and Prohibition in the 1920’s are obvious, as are the lessons our nation learned. Prohibition was repealed because it made matters worse. Today, no one is trying to sell our kids bathtub gin in the schoolyard and micro-breweries aren’t protecting their turf with machine guns. It’s time to apply that thinking to marijuana. By making it a legal, regulated product, availability can be restricted, under-age use curtailed, enforcement/court/incarceration costs reduced, and the profit removed from a massive underground and criminal economy.

By managing marijuana like alcohol and tobacco – regulating, taxing and enforcing its lawful use – America will be better off. The billions saved on marijuana interdiction, along with the billions captured as legal revenue, can be redirected against the individuals committing real crimes against society. Harder drugs should not be legalized, but their use should be dealt with as a health issue – not a criminal justice issue.

Sounds just right.

 

[JoeTheJuggler]

NEXT!

Your'e up, Newt!

Hey batter, batter.

Nah---Newt's already a known commodity, so he won't get a big boost based on being a Republican candidate that most people know nothing about yet.

I'm beginning to think we're reaching the point where the GOP begins to settle on Romney. I suppose there's still room for someone else to jump in, but I think no one will be willing to do so. I think the GOP is going to more or less give up on the White House in 2012 and focus more efforts on Congressional elections.

 

[varwoche]

Nah---Newt's already a known commodity, so he won't get a big boost based on being a Republican candidate that most people know nothing about yet.

I'm beginning to think we're reaching the point where the GOP begins to settle on Romney. I suppose there's still room for someone else to jump in, but I think no one will be willing to do so. I think the GOP is going to more or less give up on the White House in 2012 and focus more efforts on Congressional elections.

It would be unusual for the shakeout to happen this early in the cycle, before votes are even cast. I have a microscopic glimmer of hope that Palin will interpret these one-by-one flameouts as a calling.

 

[Ladewig]

I'm beginning to think we're reaching the point where the GOP begins to settle on Romney.

I'm uncertain as to who will eventually win, but I am pretty sure that if Romney becomes the front runner and Perry's numbers start to slip, then things are going to get uglier than we've seen up to know.

 

[Ladewig]

It would be unusual for the shakeout to happen this early in the cycle, before votes are even cast. I have a microscopic glimmer of hope that Palin will interpret these one-by-one flameouts as a calling.

Curse you for planting that thought in my head. What a train wreck that would be.

 

[TimCallahan]

Here is the latest (11/2/11) average of very disparate Republican poll results:

Cain 26.0 %
Romney 24.0
Perry 10.0
Gingrich 9.4
Paul 8.2
Bachman 3.8
Santorum 1.8
Huntsman 1.2
undecided (by implication) 15.6

Of course, as previously noted by a number of posters, these poll numbers are very tenuous and illusory. Still, I find it disturbing that Huntsman, the most sane sounding of the lot is in last place, even behind Santorum, and that Perry is still holding at third place following the drunk-sounding speech.

It is interesting to note that Romney and Cain are still neck and neck. It's conceivable they could go into the convention thus and could split the Republican Party sown the middle.

 

[Spindrift]

Here is the latest (11/2/11) average of very disparate Republican poll results:

Cain 26.0 %
Romney 24.0
Perry 10.0
Gingrich 9.4
Paul 8.2
Bachman 3.8
Santorum 1.8
Huntsman 1.2
undecided (by implication) 15.6

Of course, as previously noted by a number of posters, these poll numbers are very tenuous and illusory. Still, I find it disturbing that Huntsman, the most sane sounding of the lot is in last place, even behind Santorum, and that Perry is still holding at third place following the drunk-sounding speech.

It is interesting to note that Romney and Cain are still neck and neck. It's conceivable they could go into the convention thus and could split the Republican Party sown the middle.

Huntsman's behind Santorum? Well that's got to be messy.

Romney and Cain are neck and neck but combined only have half the vote. I don't think they will stay that way once the actual voting starts. I still think Cain has started his slide and won't stop until he's in the low teens or single digits. Unless Romney has some baggage that hasn't been uncovered in the last four years, he wins the nomination pretty much by default.

 

[TimCallahan]

Huntsman's behind Santorum? Well that's got to be messy.

Romney and Cain are neck and neck but combined only have half the vote. I don't think they will stay that way once the actual voting starts. I still think Cain has started his slide and won't stop until he's in the low teens or single digits. Unless Romney has some baggage that hasn't been uncovered in the last four years, he wins the nomination pretty much by default.

My wife has pointed out to me that a lot of the evangelical Christian conservatives will hold Romney's Mormonism against him. Fundamentalists and evangelicals are very down on the Church of Latter Day Saints.

 

[Ladewig]

My wife has pointed out to me that a lot of the evangelical Christian conservatives will hold Romney's Mormonism against him. Fundamentalists and evangelicals are very down on the Church of Latter Day Saints.

Yes. They refer to it as not being a Christian denomination. Some go as far as to call it a cult. Many believe that there is a need to carry the Message of the Bible to these lost souls.

A devout third-party candidate could steal a lot of votes from Romney.