UFOs: The Research, the Evidence

[RoboTimbo]

I actually have some research to report, though it deals only with perceptions. A student here needed to create a survey questionnaire for a psychology class and then report back her findings after doing some statistical analysis. She decided to research paranormal beliefs, and in helping her put together the form, I suggested a couple of questions that might be of interest.

She surveyed 144 people in five different classes (all at the same time period--no overlaps); some subjects were teachers, but most of them were students, ranging in age from 18 to 62, with a median age of 25. Among other things, she asked if people believed various things really existed. More people believed in angels than did not--85 to 47, with the rest undecided. A smaller group, about half of the subjects, believed in demons--71 believed, 55 did not, the rest undecided.

Aliens visiting the earth from other planets? 6 believed, 129 did not believe, 9 were undecided.

She asked whether people defined "bigfoot" as
A. a gigantic ape-like creature that really lives in North America--18
B. a fictional or imaginary ape-like creature--120
C. a hoax--6
D. Other--0

At my behest, she also asked which of these is the best definition for "UFO":
A. Alien spaceship--1
B. Unidentified flying object--139
C. Something mistakenly believed to be a material craft--2
D. A spiritual light in the sky--1
E. Other--1

There were 25 questions in all, but I thought these were the most apposite. By the way, I do not necessarily agree with her wording, but I did help her set up the site so the Respondus program would mix the responses offered so they didn't always come in the same order.

[ufology]See! UFO means Alien Space Ship![/ufology]

 

[SezMe]

At my behest, she also asked which of these is the best definition for "UFO":
A. Alien spaceship--1
B. Unidentified flying object--139
C. Something mistakenly believed to be a material craft--2
D. A spiritual light in the sky--1
E. Other--1

Pffft. Merely demonstrates that ufology was in one of the classes.

 

[edge]

All I can say is the government; any government is lying to us all about it...
The evidence is there in one form as these people recall sooner or later of being tagged and all you can say about it is fiction and fairy tails.
Testing by highly qualified labs doesn’t count either.
Talk about total denial?
But still it's all about semantics, what egos...

 

[AdMan]

All I can say is the government; any government is lying to us all about it...
The evidence is there in one form as these people recall sooner or later of being tagged and all you can say about it is fiction and fairy tails.
Testing by highly qualified labs doesn’t count either.
Talk about total denial?
But still it's all about semantics, what egos...

Once again proving you have absolutely nothing of value to add to this thread.

 

[John Albert]

Once again proving you have absolutely nothing of value to add to this thread.

...or even the most basic understanding of the subjects we've been discussing.

 

[Paul2]

...or even the most basic understanding of the subjects we've been discussing.

Or an ability to write coherent sentences.

 

[edge]

Typical tactic, attack the messenger.
Can't disprove the implants, which is evidence and there are many of them, the government wasn’t able to hide all of them.
Remember start your sentences with capital letters, or else I won’t be able to understand your incoherence on this topic.

 

[John Albert]

Can't disprove the implants, which is evidence and there are many of them, the government wasn’t able to hide all of them.

Ah, yeah, the implants... how could I forget about those?

You're talking about the implants for which you have material evidence, verified exhaustively through numerous tests, that conclusively proves they are extraterrestrial in origin, right?

Well I haven't seen those implants, nor any of that evidence. Would you mind please showing all of that stuff to us now, so we can have some basis for a dialogue on this very important subject?

 

[GeeMack]

Typical tactic, attack the messenger.
Can't disprove the implants, which is evidence and there are many of them, the government wasn’t able to hide all of them.
Remember start your sentences with capital letters, or else I won’t be able to understand your incoherence on this topic.

Typical "ufology" tactic. Attempt to shift the burden of proof. Didn't you notice when we explained to ufology, and Rramjet, that deflecting the burden of proof is dishonest. If you've got some objective evidence that these alleged implants are some kind of alien thing, spill it. This is the thread for it. But before you start, make sure you understand what arguments from incredulity and ignorance are, and why you are guaranteed to fail if you try to use them.

 

[RoboTimbo]

All I can say is the government; any government is lying to us all about it...
The evidence is there in one form as these people recall sooner or later of being tagged and all you can say about it is fiction and fairy tails.
Testing by highly qualified labs doesn’t count either.
Talk about total denial?
But still it's all about semantics, what egos...

Fairies put the implants in people. It was the government that removed them without the people knowing about it. The evidence is there in the form of no implants ever being discovered in anyone. The government has been at war with fairies since the 1950's. How can you deny the evidence?

You can't disprove the fairies so you spread disinfo. Who pays your salary to do that?

 

[AdMan]

Typical tactic, attack the messenger.
Can't disprove the implants, which is evidence and there are many of them, the government wasn’t able to hide all of them.

What is there to disprove?

You have brought vague assertions about "implants" and government coverups, and you use the word evidence as if you knew what it meant, when it's clear you don't.

It's easy to not take your posts seriously. You might as well be a troll.

 

[Paul2]

Typical tactic, attack accurately characterize what the messenger says.

FIFY

Can't disprove the implants, which is evidence and there are many of them, the government wasn’t able to hide all of them.

You can't be serious. Implants?! Please, do go on.

Remember start your sentences with capital letters, or else I won’t be able to understand your incoherence on this topic.

ok, i undrstand coherance not well, but finely.

 

[Robrob]

Fairies put the implants in people. It was the government that removed them without the people knowing about it. The evidence is there in the form of no implants ever being discovered in anyone. The government has been at war with fairies since the 1950's. How can you deny the evidence?

You can't disprove the fairies so you spread disinfo. Who pays your salary to do that?

Your philosophy intrigues me, how do I become a member?

 

[Krikkiter]

I actually have some research to report, though it deals only with perceptions. A student here needed to create a survey questionnaire for a psychology class and then report back her findings after doing some statistical analysis. She decided to research paranormal beliefs, and in helping her put together the form, I suggested a couple of questions that might be of interest.

She surveyed 144 people in five different classes (all at the same time period--no overlaps); some subjects were teachers, but most of them were students, ranging in age from 18 to 62, with a median age of 25. Among other things, she asked if people believed various things really existed. More people believed in angels than did not--85 to 47, with the rest undecided. A smaller group, about half of the subjects, believed in demons--71 believed, 55 did not, the rest undecided.

Aliens visiting the earth from other planets? 6 believed, 129 did not believe, 9 were undecided.

She asked whether people defined "bigfoot" as
A. a gigantic ape-like creature that really lives in North America--18
B. a fictional or imaginary ape-like creature--120
C. a hoax--6
D. Other--0

At my behest, she also asked which of these is the best definition for "UFO":
A. Alien spaceship--1
B. Unidentified flying object--139
C. Something mistakenly believed to be a material craft--2
D. A spiritual light in the sky--1
E. Other--1

There were 25 questions in all, but I thought these were the most apposite. By the way, I do not necessarily agree with her wording, but I did help her set up the site so the Respondus program would mix the responses offered so they didn't always come in the same order.

So much for popular culture believing that UFO = OMG Aliens!

 

[Tomtomkent]

Typical tactic, attack the messenger.
Can't disprove the implants, which is evidence and there are many of them, the government wasn’t able to hide all of them.
Remember start your sentences with capital letters, or else I won’t be able to understand your incoherence on this topic.

So now all you have to do is;
1) show the "implants" are indeed implants.
2) show they are of alien origin.
3) check 1&2 were shown with evidence that can not be falsified by, for example, waving any old bit of metal around saying "it was under my skin, honest".
4) prove the government has hidden any of them at all.

Take a wild guess how many times that has happened? If your answer is above 0 you are way too high.

 

[SezMe]

Even just doing just doing 1) through 3) and I can guarantee you that everyone here will post something like, "Ya know edge was right!" But note that the operative word is "Show". Not assert, not claim, not BS, "SHOW".

 

[Jocce]

All I can say is the government; any government is lying to us all about it...

What is "it"? Alien visits?

The evidence is there in one form

Then present it.

as these people recall sooner or later of being tagged

Tagged? On Facebook?

and all you can say about it is fiction and fairy tails.

Yep, that is the most likely explanation until you can provide evidence to the contrary.

Testing by highly qualified labs doesn’t count either.

Testing what in which labs using which methods? What were the results?

Talk about total denial?

Talk about blind belief.

But still it's all about semantics, what egos...

Yep, when ufologists have no evidence they resort to semantics. I'm glad you see that.

 

[Jocce]

Can't disprove the implants, which is evidence

Present the implants and analysis of them.

and there are many of them

Where?

the government wasn’t able to hide all of them.

Present evidence that they have tried to hide any at all. Better yet, present evidence of implants.

 

[Sideroxylon]

Evidence.


The U.S produces some stinkers of documentaries. Discovery and History pander to a lot of crap.

There are a great deal more videos featuring Dr Leir on YouTube. "I don't know what it is or how it got there, therefore OMG, alien implants."

 

[Correa Neto]

You foolish skeptics and UFOlogists! You are all blind to the truth!

Edge speaks the truth. Read the Bible, accept Jesus inside your heart, repent and your immortal souls may be saved. UFOs are not aliens, they are the product of demoniac activity. Satan and his fallen angels are disguising themselves as aliens, creatures from the sky, from Heaven. Foolish humans, blinded by their foolish pride steer away from God and are attracted by Satan's deceptions just like moths are by the fire. And it will be in the fire, the eternal fire within the pits of Hell, where they will meet their ultimate doom.

Satan is cleverly creating and using tales of aliens to steer you away from Jesus. How can't you see it? Don't bother, I know why. Its your pride, because of it you value your false wisdom, the lies of scientificism above the Word of God.

Disguised as aliens, demons pose themselves as creatures from Heaven. Many will seek these false aliens for guidance, because they believe they are somehow superior to us in technology and wisdom. Many will be lured by false interpretations of the Word of God cleverly created and seeded by Satan himself, where these false aliens are taken as having been confused by the Ancient Hebrews with angels from Heaven. Satan also uses and twists the Rapture when creating abudction tales, reinforcing these false beliefs.

And the implants? Can't you figure it all out yet? Oh, foolish souls blinded by pride! Its the Mark! The Mark of the Beast! Yes, governments know about this and cover it all, since they, as predicted in the Bible, are already dominated by the Antichrist. Many humans already have it, even without knowing. Much more have another type of mark. A non-physical, invisible spiritual mark. A bligh in the soul, created by false beliefs, created when they embraced Satan's lies and turned their backs to Jesus' Love.

There's still time to save your souls from the fiery pits of Hell.



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