Saudi Ambassador attack...thwarted

MaGZ said:
It's not like Israel hasn’t planted fake stories in the media in the past and came up with schemes to get the US to attack her enemy at the moment.
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Ah, those sneaky Jews! Always with their world domination!
 
MaGZ said:
It's not like Israel hasn’t planted fake stories in the media in the past and came up with schemes to get the US to attack her enemy at the moment.
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Apropos, worth listening (and reading), from last week, before this intelligence-insulting story broke:

Ray McGovern, member of Veterans For Peace and former senior analyst at the CIA, discusses his article “Israel’s Window to Bomb Iran;” how the 2007 National Intelligence Estimate thwarted the Bush administration’s push for war; Israel’s increasing isolation as its allies depart en masse; Obama’s acute vulnerability to the “Likud lobby’s” influence during his reelection bid; the former Mossad chiefs who worry about Netanyahu’s warmongering; and whether military leadership will speak up to Israel to avoid war with Iran – like admirals Mullen and Fallon did in 2007.

MP3 here. (19:52)

Ray McGovern was a CIA analyst for 27 years, from the John F. Kennedy administration to that of George H. W. Bush.
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Childlike Empress said:
Apropos, worth listening (and reading), from last week, before this intelligence-insulting story broke:
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I hope everyone on the this thread will listen to the MP3 and hear the comments of Ray McGovern. It looks like Bebe is willing to throw all caution to the wind and start a war with Iran no matter what. And to think this interview was just a few days ago before the Iranian plot was released.
 
Warmongering is so easy when even supposed skeptics are guarding the citadel!
 
"The US government expects an unsuspecting world to believe that a washed-up car salesman in Texas was tasked by a select intelligence arm of the Iranian government to fish for anyone who looked like a Mexican drug gangster and then order them a US$1.5 million hit on the Saudi ambassador in Washington - in the meantime promising them unfettered access to "tons of opium".

Yet in the Sealed Amended Complaint against Arabsiar and Shakuri, signed by FBI special agent Robert Woloszyn, there is absolutely nothing specifically stating the involvement of the Iranian government, at the highest or at any level.

According to the US government narrative, Arabsiar was foolish enough to trust an infiltrated Drug Enforcement Agency agent who posed as a member of the Zetas Mexican drug cartel. He told this agent and his buddies he was the nephew of a Tehran high official - and that he was acting on behalf of the highest echelons.

So we are asked to believe that an Iranian general asks a Dumb and Dumber relative in the US to go contract a drug cartel for a political hit - as if US intelligence would never be able to track the whole thing back to him, especially after the matter of $100,000 wired to the US, allegedly from Iran, to a guy convicted of check fraud, as the down payment for the hit.

Beyond any ideological bias, anyone who knows how professional the IRGC and the Qods force can be cannot but dismiss this as utter rubbish - especially as part of a complex international operation involving Iran, its mortal foe the US, Mexico and Saudi Arabia. By the way, Arabsiar "confessed" to all this after 12 days of non-stop interrogation (waterboarding, anyone?)"

'The occupy Iran Fast and Furious plot (extended) '

By Pepe Escobar
 
The government is apparently showing the evidence to the heads of several different countries,
The United States is offering "specialized briefings" to officials in other countries who have sought more information about the alleged plot, said State Department spokesman Victoria Nuland. She cited Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov as having wanted more information.


A senior administration official said the impetus for the specialized briefings came from U.S. officials. Briefing teams -- composed of senior officials from various agencies -- are going to China, Turkey and Russia and perhaps to other countries.
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We will see what those countries, few of which you would call "America's best buddies" have to say about the evidence. It is clear though that Obama wants to be as open as possible about this without compromising our intelligence-gathering operations. Also, the response seems to be asking for more sanctions, with no serious talk of invading or attacking Iran.

We shall see what plays out, but so far, this story has the ring of authenticity.
 
WildCat said:
I'm not sure I'd call a dictator a "politician", and we were at war with Iraq at the time anyway.
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Of course you were. To remove him. You'll try and defend any old rubbish eh?

The lack of skepticism on this issue after all the haranguing on the 911 nutters here is pathetic.
 
There's tissues if anyone wants to cry over fascist and communist dictators being targeted during wars.
 
Virus said:
There's tissues if anyone wants to cry over fascist and communist dictators being targeted during wars.
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The war in Iraq was manufactured by the Bush Administration for the main purpose of deposing Saddam. However, that is not really my point. The US does indeed send drones to kill enemies of the US. For the most part, these are enemies who are not an official part of any government (even a dictatorship) and are essentially international criminals, not obedient to any country. That is a great deal different from having a government official of Iran (if it is true) financing the assassination of a government official of Saudi Arabia. Now I'm not going to stand on my soapbox and claim this should never happen. This is the real world we live in, and people play rough. But if you play this game, you have a chance of losing, and that is exactly what happened in this case. They got caught and they will have to pay the consequences.

If Iran catches a government-financed operative from the US trying to assassinate an official or ambassador there, I expect they will deal with him harshly. Hell, they deal with hikers harshly.
 
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WildCat said:
The US hasn't changed since the Kennedy Administration? :boggled:
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Which part of "fundamentally" is so damn hard to understand that you decide to ignore it completely?

If you wish to argue that the difference between the Kennedy administration and ANY other US administration of your choice at ANY time in US history is as drastic as the difference between the Hitler regime and the current German government, please, by all means, go ahead and do it.
 
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