Saudi Ambassador attack...thwarted

RenaissanceBiker said:
Even though the attack was to have been on US soil, the main target was the Saudi ambassador. It will be interesting to see what course the Saudis want to take. Arabs vs. Persians How wide is the Straits of Hormuz?
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This wide:
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(not to scale)
 
All of the analysts I listen to indicate that Iran is much more divided than we'd think; with the President and his cronies often at odds with the Clerical powers, and the military also separate to a large degree from the more-fanatical "revolutionary guard".... And so forth.
It's possible that this plot (if true, and to date the evidence looks pretty compelling) may not have originated as a "state" action but rather from one of the disparate groups within Iranian society....
 
Bikewer said:
All of the analysts I listen to indicate that Iran is much more divided than we'd think; with the President and his cronies often at odds with the Clerical powers, and the military also separate to a large degree from the more-fanatical "revolutionary guard".... And so forth.
It's possible that this plot (if true, and to date the evidence looks pretty compelling) may not have originated as a "state" action but rather from one of the disparate groups within Iranian society....
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One of the disparate groups within Iranian society, or one of the various factions vying for power and position within the Iranian government apparatus?

I mean, the problem with Iran-Contra wasn't that Colonel North represented a rogue faction within American society, but that he represented a rogue faction within the US government.

If this is indeed a rogue faction within the Iranian government, it will be instructive to see how other factions deal with it.
 
http://web.caller.com/2011/pdf/arbabsiar-shakuri-indictment.pdf

The indictment.

What to do about it? Well, the guy they have in custody isn't quite as vaulable as his handler, who is apparently in Iran and linked to the Al Quds folks. I'd say the FBI /court approach is enough to do.

The attempted assassination of the Saudi ambassador ... we'll see what the King chooses to do about that. He's got resources.
 
And we can hope the King's response is sufficient to keep the Obama-ites from doing anything too silly.
 
I assume that Iran is planning to arrest an American or 2 now under trumped-up charges, in an attempt to have a prisoner swap.
 
This whole thing is so incredibly bizarre. The Iranian government as a whole wouldn't have any obvious reason to kill this guy, and I can't even imagine that some rogue faction has an obvious reason to kill this guy. So I'm thinking there is more to "this guy" than meets the eye - like, he's a double agent or something. Iran has no reason to give Israel & Saudi Arabia something to agree on. And, sorry, but since when do ambassadors matter? Of course they matter as human beings, murder is wrong, etc.


But really ... why???
 
Darth Rotor said:
Try reading the indictment. 21 pages. I did. Got the link from a friend.

Doesn't pop up on a cursory Google, however. Need to find the link.
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Executive summary, and linkie? Please!

ETA: Found it. At least this administration and its covert services spent the time capturing the (bleep) rather than spending all their time telling us to be afraid of him.
 
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RenaissanceBiker said:
Even though the attack was to have been on US soil, the main target was the Saudi ambassador. It will be interesting to see what course the Saudis want to take. Arabs vs. Persians How wide is the Straits of Hormuz?

ETA: About 30 - 33 miles (49 -54 km).
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About 52 seconds in an F15?
 
AlBell said:
And we can hope the King's response is sufficient to keep the Obama-ites from doing anything too silly.
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You mean keep the Obama-haters from calling him "weak and stupid" when he doesn't launch a nuclear weapon at Iran?
 
Today in the German Parliament, one Christian Democrat, a known pro-US lobbyist, had an outburst and whined "we shouldn't pretend that this is all made up!" only to get informed by a Social Democrat that there's massive doubt about this story even in Washington itself. Chancelloress doesn't say a word, Foreign Minister said some short platitudes, nobody else wants to comment.

In other word, Yankistanis: nobody buys this laughable and highly dangerous fairytale. Your credibility around the globe is profoundly ruined after many years of lies and lies and more lies of the corrupt criminals (on top of "both" parties) who "lead" you into self-destruction.
 
WildCat said:
I assume that Iran is planning to arrest an American or 2 now under trumped-up charges, in an attempt to have a prisoner swap.
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They let the last 2 buy their way out. Wonder if we can sell this guy back to them? ;)
 
Minoosh said:
This whole thing is so incredibly bizarre. The Iranian government as a whole wouldn't have any obvious reason to kill this guy, and I can't even imagine that some rogue faction has an obvious reason to kill this guy. So I'm thinking there is more to "this guy" than meets the eye - like, he's a double agent or something. Iran has no reason to give Israel & Saudi Arabia something to agree on. And, sorry, but since when do ambassadors matter? Of course they matter as human beings, murder is wrong, etc.


But really ... why???
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A rogue faction might want to get the dominant faction into trouble by making the US angry at said dominant faction.
 
Childlike Empress said:
In other word, Yankistanis: nobody buys this laughable and highly dangerous fairytale.
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That's exactly what you say about 9/11! :rolleyes:

In the real world, among responsible adults, the Iranians plotted to kill the Saudi ambassador and blow up the Israeli embassy.

It' not like Iran hasn't done such things elsewhere.
 
Fake, Fake, Fake

Justin Raimondo said:
That our government would float a narrative like this without any apparent regard for the basic rules of fiction-writing – create believable characters who do believable things – is Washington’s way of showing contempt for the Iranians, the American people, and anyone else who stands in the way of their war agenda. They don’t care if it’s not believable. They think Americans will swallow anything, that we’re too busy trying to survive day-to-day, these days, to inquire much further than the “official” account. And of course our brain-dead media, which is reduced to a chiefly stenographic role, isn’t going to ask any inconvenient questions.
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WildCat said:
That's exactly what you say about 9/11! :rolleyes:

In the real world, among responsible adults, the Iranians plotted to kill the Saudi ambassador and blow up the Israeli embassy.

It' not like Iran hasn't done such things elsewhere.
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It's not like Israel hasn’t planted fake stories in the media in the past and came up with schemes to get the US to attack her enemy at the moment.
 
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