Merged Occupy Wall St.'s drumbeat grows louder

[shemp]

Occupy Wall St.'s drumbeat grows louder

The drumbeat of the Occupy Wall Street protest is growing louder and wider.


"Wall Street got bailed out, and we all got sold out!"


From the streets of New York ... to the nation's capital ... to the South (Mobile, Ala., Jacksonville, Fla.) and West (Portland, Ore.), Americans are frustrated and making their voices heard.

Here's some of those who have heard:

On "The Early Show" Monday, Former Senator Russell Feingold, D-Wis., said of the protests spreading across the country, "I'm not just pleased about it, I'm excited about it."


He reflected on the pro-labor demonstrations in Wisconsin earlier this year that were sparked by the governor's fight to take away collective bargaining rights from public sector workers in his state. "We did it here, and I think this is going to happen all over the country," Feingold said, "because people have been kicked when they are down, over and over again. You can only kick people so long before they react.


"This is time now for accountability, and this is a good way to show people how strongly we feel. The working people of this country have been treated very brutally and it has to change."

Former Sen. Feingold was one of the most liberal Senators and has generally fought for working class people, so I'm not surprised at his remarks.

On the other hand, there's those who don't get it:

GOP candidate and Florida businessman Herman Cain had no sympathy for the protesters or their message. On CBS' "Face the Nation" Sunday, Cain said protesters are acting out of "jealousy" for bankers' success, and suggested demonstrators who complain that they are jobless are just "playing the victim card."


"It's anti-American because to protest Wall Street and the bankers is basically saying that you're anti-capitalism," Cain told Bob Schieffer.

Yes, they should all just go out and get jobs. Oh, there aren't any? Well, let them eat cake.

On "60 Minutes" Sunday Jeffrey Immelt, the CEO of General Electric, denied that the American people are anti-corporation.

"You know, everybody in Germany roots for Siemens," Immelt told Lesley Stahl. "Everybody in Japan roots for Toshiba. Everybody in China roots for China South Rail. I want you to say, 'Win, G.E.'"

This has got to be the most absolutely clueless comment I've seen yet! I don't think I even need to comment on how stupid and thoughtless his comment is. Jeffrey Immelt, go **** yourself!

 

[Tony]

This has got to be the most absolutely clueless comment I've seen yet! I don't think I even need to comment on how stupid and thoughtless his comment is. Jeffrey Immelt, go **** yourself!

I agree. Siemens and Toshiba keep jobs in their home countries while GE ships them overseas. If American corporations want the sympathy of the American people, perhaps they should do something which benefits the country in a tangible way instead of caring only about the bottom line and the inflated paychecks of their executives.

 

[Neally]

Occupy Wall St.'s drumbeat grows louder

Then we need more coverage of the drum circles!

Yes, they should all just go out and get jobs. Oh, there aren't any? Well, let them eat cake.

No jobs anywhere, doing anything? Rather than finding out what it takes and making the connections to find a job, let's just sit around banging the drum!

 

[Newtons Bit]

This has got to be the most absolutely clueless comment I've seen yet! I don't think I even need to comment on how stupid and thoughtless his comment is. Jeffrey Immelt, go **** yourself!

He's also the chairman of Obama's Council on Jobs and Competitiveness.

Problem?

 

[Ladewig]

GOP candidate and Florida businessman Herman Cain had no sympathy for the protesters or their message. On CBS' "Face the Nation" Sunday, Cain said protesters are acting out of "jealousy" for bankers' success, and suggested demonstrators who complain that they are jobless are just "playing the victim card."

I wonder if Cain is well-read enough to start quoting Charles Dickens's most famous character: "Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouse?"

 

[Alt+F4]

Then we need more coverage of the drum circles!


No jobs anywhere, doing anything? Rather than finding out what it takes and making the connections to find a job, let's just sit around banging the drum!

They are too stupid to understand that this area of the city just isn't "wall street". People live near that park and are kept up constantly by the drums and the shouting. That park is occupied by a bunch of disgusting, filthy hippies who care about no one except themselves. I've seen it personally and in no way, shape or form am I part of what they consider the "other 99%". The question I have now is that since the park is private property, why haven't the owners had this freak show evicted on trespassing charges?

 

[uk_dave]

"You know, everybody in Germany roots for Siemens," Immelt told Lesley Stahl. "Everybody in Japan roots for Toshiba. Everybody in China roots for China South Rail. I want you to say, 'Win, G.E.'"

Not another bloody operating system!

 

[Alt+F4]

I wonder if Cain is well-read enough to start quoting Charles Dickens's most famous character: "Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouse?"

At least there were out-houses at the workhouses. The freaks at Zuccotti Park just go in public....or use the bathroom at a nearby McDonald's (damn corporations and their flush toilets!).

 

[shemp]

He's also the chairman of Obama's Council on Jobs and Competitiveness.

Problem?

No, there's no problem at all with handing the keys to the bank to Willie Sutton. Or asking Joseph Mengele for medical advice.

Obama's job-creation panel includes job-cutting executives

In another public demonstration of concern about the struggling economy, President Obama will meet in Pittsburgh on Tuesday with the business and labor leaders he has chosen to counsel him on job creation.

But many of the chief executives have cut American jobs and adopted tactics that weaken organized labor — even as their businesses post record profits.

Just days before the president appointed Kenneth I. Chenault, chairman and chief executive of American Express, to the council, the company announced a massive restructuring that closed a facility in North Carolina and eliminated 550 jobs, or about 1% of the company's workforce. At the same time, American Express announced it had made $1.1 billion in the fourth quarter of 2010, up 48% from the same period the previous year.

Xerox, whose chief executive, Ursula Burns, sits on the board, has cut 4,500 jobs in the first six months of 2011.

Jim McNerney, chief executive of Boeing, shrank the company's California operations because of the end of the space shuttle program and defense cutbacks. In January, Boeing said it was cutting 1,100 U.S. jobs, including 900 in Long Beach, and has since announced further cuts in Alabama and Kansas, while adding jobs elsewhere. At the same time, Boeing reported that profits rose 20%, to $941 billion in the second quarter of 2011.

The numbers are not the only measurement under dispute. Labor advocates say many of the council members have tried to quell organizing drives and force concessions in negotiations while reaping profits.

"They call it the jobs and competitiveness committee, but when they mean by competitiveness is massive concessions being imposed on working people," said Chris Townsend, political action director of United Electrical, Radio and Machine Workers of America, which represents 3,500 General Electric workers.

Townsend says General Electric has closed 31 U.S. locations and cut 22,000 jobs in the last four years. It has cut wages of nonunion workers and, in the most recent union contract, required employees to pay higher deductibles for health insurance and eradicated pensions for new employees.

"We think it speaks of incredibly poor judgment on the part of the White House to select the members of the panel that they've selected and try to describe it somehow as a job creation panel," he said.

 

[Alt+F4]

No jobs anywhere, doing anything? Rather than finding out what it takes and making the connections to find a job, let's just sit around banging the drum!

Not one person I saw seemed capable of even getting a job rounding up the shopping carts in a Costco parking lot.

 

[shemp]

Not one person I saw seemed capable of even getting a job rounding up the shopping carts in a Costco parking lot.

I stongly suspect that, despite your ridiculous judgment, most of these people have some means to support themselves, or if not, are quite capable of finding a job if there were any available. But, for the sake of argument, if your judgment is accurate, what would you do with them?

 

[Ladewig]

They are too stupid to understand that this area of the city just isn't "wall street". People live near that park and are kept up constantly by the drums and the shouting. That park is occupied by a bunch of disgusting, filthy hippies who care about no one except themselves. I've seen it personally and in no way, shape or form am I part of what they consider the "other 99%". The question I have now is that since the park is private property, why haven't the owners had this freak show evicted on trespassing charges?

They are planning a long stay, they have convinced the post office to deliver their mail to the park.

 

[Alt+F4]

I stongly suspect that, despite your ridiculous judgment, most of these people have some means to support themselves, or if not, are quite capable of finding a job if there were any available. But, for the sake of argument, if your judgment is accurate, what would you do with them?

I would demand they get the hell out of my city where they are unfairly disrupting the quality of life of the neighborhood and costing the tax payers quite a bit of money in NYPD overtime. Tell me Shemp, why should my young nephew be subjected to seeing a naked woman in Zuccotti Park, clearly high? And are you really trying to make the argument that there are no jobs available in NYC? None, whatsoever?

 

[Alt+F4]

They are planning a long stay, they have convinced the post office to deliver their mail to the park.

I can only hope whe have as much snow this winter as we did last winter.

 

[shemp]

I would demand they get the hell out of my city where they are unfairly disrupting the quality of life of the neighborhood and costing the tax payers quite a bit of money in NYPD overtime. Tell me Shemp, why should my young nephew be subjected to seeing a naked woman in Zuccotti Park, clearly high? And are you really trying to make the argument that there are no jobs available in NYC? None, whatsoever?

Ah yes, the old NIMBY solution.

I highly doubt that seeing a naked woman in a park is going to scar your nephew anywhere near as much as the crushing national debt he's inheriting will.

I have no doubt there are jobs available in NYC. I also have no doubt that there are many more jobseekers than there are jobs. Otherwise, unemployment wouldn't be 9.1%

 

[shemp]

I can only hope whe have as much snow this winter as we did last winter.

Maybe they can get jobs shoveling it. I'm glad to see that you have a job-creation idea. You should communicate it to the President.

 

[BenBurch]

I stongly suspect that, despite your ridiculous judgment, most of these people have some means to support themselves, or if not, are quite capable of finding a job if there were any available. But, for the sake of argument, if your judgment is accurate, what would you do with them?

The "if available" part is the key here, Shemp, as you know.

I am VERY lucky that I found this job so soon after the radio network collapsed. I had friends from there who were very competent and able and willing to work who were out 9 months or so.

 

[Alt+F4]

Ah yes, the old NIMBY solution.

It's not that simply. Those fools in Zuccotti Park say they want to end capitalism, something that can't be done in the United States without installing a totaltarian dictatorship. They don't even understand that the majority of people that work in lower Manhattan are not millionaire bankers, they are just working class folks like the rest of us. Now thanks to these disgusting hippies they can't even brown bag it outside in what used to be a cute little park.

I highly doubt that seeing a naked woman in a park is going to scar your nephew anywhere near as much as the crushing national debt he's inheriting will.

You didn't see that woman. She almost scared me into becoming straight. Nothing these protestors are doing is going to have any effect on the national debt. They just want another toke on the doobie (which is fine by me, just don't pretend you care about anyone else). Don't believe me? Please come to NYC and see for yourself.

I have no doubt there are jobs available in NYC. I also have no doubt that there are many more jobseekers than there are jobs. Otherwise, unemployment wouldn't be 9.1%

The folks in Zuccotti Park would rather keep working people up all night with their shouting and their drums than try to get some of the jobs that are available.

 

[Alt+F4]

Maybe they can get jobs shoveling it. I'm glad to see that you have a job-creation idea. You should communicate it to the President.

When the snow gets heavy in NYC the Department of Sanitation does pay people to shovel it. I know several people who did it last winter and were glad for the work. I'll bump this thread in January or February if I hear that any of the digusting hippies in Zuccotti Park applys for those jobs. Somehow, I don't think so.

 

[Childlike Empress]

This has got to be the most absolutely clueless comment I've seen yet! I don't think I even need to comment on how stupid and thoughtless his comment is. Jeffrey Immelt, go **** yourself!

No idea what you're talking about, shemp.

Zack Zack, Heil Siemens!