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New video of David Chandler: rockets at the World Trade Center

bill smith said:
There's a clip of the plane hitting WTC2. It's a well known one that Major Tom or Femr2 has used and they have a name for the like the (something) video. In that one we see the plane come in from the left and a projectile of some kind exits the right side at very high speed. Does anybody have a link to that clip ?
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I said this before, are you incapable of finding something for yourself? It's really simple bill, search south tower impact videos on youtube. When you do bother to look it up, you'll find it's probably part of an engine which has blasted through the open office space and come out the other side.
 
Dash80 said:
I said this before, are you incapable of finding something for yourself? It's really simple bill, search south tower impact videos on youtube. When you do bother to look it up, you'll find it's probably part of an engine which has blasted through the open office space and come out the other side.
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Have a look for yourself. I added it to the post ypou just quoted.
 
bill smith said:
There's a clip of the plane hitting WTC2. It's a well known one that Major Tom or Femr2 has used and they have a name for it like the (something) video. In that one we see the plane come in from the left and a projectile of some kind whizzes out from the right.
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the engine they found at the corner of Murray and Church Streets?
http://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/FEMAAircraftparts-custom-size-426-582.jpg

The fuselage chunk they found on the roof of WTC5? This also shows what the aluminum column covers looked like; there is one if the foreground, with the window-washer track coming loose.
http://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/FEMAAircraftparts-custom-size-426-582.jpg

http://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/FEMAAircraftparts-custom-size-426-582.jpg shows the trajectory or major parts.

http://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/aircraftpartsnyc911 has lots of other pictures of plane parts that hit the streets and accounts from various rescuers about plane parts, bodies, and personal effects found all over the area.
 
bill smith said:
It seems that rocket propulsion is the only candidate. But even rocket proulsion would have a job moving a 4-ton section so quickly and so powerfully from 40%g to 145%g ..
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I think the fault others have pointed out in your thinking is that you're only thinking two-dimensionally.
 
tfk said:
At the end of his presentation, he shows the object from a different, ground perspective. The object is clearly a long, thin, large object with his "rocket jet" emanating from one end, with the jet trailing PERPENDICULAR to the axis of the object. If the thrust of a rocket does not pass thru the CG of the rocket, then it does NOT produce linear acceleration. It produces angular acceleration, turning the "rocket" into a giant, flaming pin-wheel.

The long object shows zero evidence of such an angular acceleration.

QED: the jet is not imparting any impulse to the beam.
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What's your best guess as to Chandler's awareness of the problems with his claims? I find it difficult to believe he really thinks that this is some kind of rocket - maybe he really is that self-deluded...:(
 
bill smith said:
There were only a few pieces that literally whizzed out from the right side even before the fireball emerged. Interesting to say the least.
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I don't think it was an engine. That would have had to plough through the perimeter columns and spandrel belt on the right side which would have slowed it right down. Especially seeing that it had just ploughed through the perimater columns and spandrel belt on the other side on the way in.

I hope David Chandler measures to see if it is accelerating or not.
 
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bill smith said:
I don't think it was an engine. That would have had to plough through the perimeter columns and spandrel belt on the right side which would have slowed it right down. Especially seeing that it had just ploughed through the perimater columns and spandrel belt on the other side on the way in.
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At 500MPH the engine would hardly have noticed either......thats a bullet that weighed hundreds of pounds.

I hope David Chandler measures to see if it is accelerating or not.
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Given his track record....I could care less what HE measures it as.....
 
bill smith said:
I don't think it was an engine. That would have had to plough through the perimeter columns and spandrel belt on the right side which would have slowed it right down. Especially seeing that it had just ploughed through the perimater columns and spandrel belt on the other side on the way in.

I hope David Chandler measures to see if it is accelerating or not.
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Cut it out bill, there was debris flying through open office space at hundreds of mph.
 
Dash80 said:
Cut it out bill, there was debris flying through open office space at hundreds of mph.
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But this debris was so much faster than the other debris Dash. Did it have a head start or something ?
 
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leftysergeant said:
Jones also makes the mistake of calling dust trailing from some falling columns thermite smoke.

Both of these dorks disregard the fact that neither of their artifacts produce light.

Only an utter fool compares a dust plume in the full sunlight to a dust plume in partial shade and calls them different substances because of the different light values.
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Not only should it be blindingly bright, but the smoke trailing it should be a neon yellow color, which this isn't.
 
bill smith said:
The first thing you must do Oystein is to verify whether the falling unit is ccelerating downwards faster than gravity can account for.. If you cannot debunk that claim of David Chandler's then we lnow that the unit was under propulsion of some kind and you are just whistling in the wind.
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No. You don't debunk a claim, sir. He has to put together his best evidence FOR his claim and present that for rebuttal. THEN, he'll get a proper rebuttal.

Has he done that yet? Are you saying that this video is his best case?

God, I hope not.
 
bill smith said:
But this debris was so much faster than the other debris Dash. Did it have a head start or something ?
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Do you have any calculations to support this? In the video I see the dust and debris ejecting from the east facade and reaching the north-east corner, the bloom of the fireball beginning and an object trailing smoke emerging from the north side. This is most likely the engine, whose trajectory matches up with the location it landed.
 
OCaptain said:
No. You don't debunk a claim, sir. He has to put together his best evidence FOR his claim and present that for rebuttal. THEN, he'll get a proper rebuttal.

Has he done that yet? Are you saying that this video is his best case?

God, I hope not.
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You would imagine, with 1600 verified architectural and engineering professionals at his disposal, he would have produced something better than this guff. Is this really the best they can come up with between them? I'm afraid it is.

What I can't understand is, how the rank and file of the Truth Movement don't get angry when they see their High Priests produce this kind of shoddy work. This thread has thoroughly shot it to pieces, it's a joke.
 
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