Continuation Part 3 - Discussion of the Amanda Knox case

[RandyN]

komponisto,

Thank you for translating this. I think the questions could have been far more pointed, but Dr. Novelli's answers are terribly disappointing, sometimes for what he did not say. For example, if he did not use the electronic data files (also known as .fsa files in this case), then he would not have been able to zoom in and look at small peaks. In other words his review would not be very thorough. If he did use the EDFs, then he had access to something that the defense did not have in the first trial, and he should have deplored this lack of transparency. I will have to leave it at that until tomorrow night at the earliest.

Its the "mafia effect"....you lie and I will swear to it. You know...cuz we are buddies.

 

[Dougm]

So what's happening in a few hours?
Are Maresca and Pacelli are going to rip into the defense once again?
Yikes...

Yep, buckle your seat belts! But it's only two more days until the nasty part is over, then the defense gets their chance!

 

[RWVBWL]

Hi Grinder and everyone else,
I have not given it much thought about what would happen if Raffaele and Amanda are acquited, what happens afterwards. Do they get released that day from the courtroom or do they have to go back to prison?
Or do they have to stay in prison for a few extra days for paperwork to get filled. What would happen next?

In answer to my question,
a poster who I respect has sent me, by PM, this:
It has been reported that they would be processed out of jail within as little as 2 hours
Thanks for that info.
RW

 

[JREF2010]

new post on Perugia Shock...

http://perugiashock.com/

 

[bri1]

BBCDanielS Daniel Sandford
Judge in #amandaknox appeal pointing out that everything Lumumba's lawyer is saying has been well-rehearsed already.

If this means Hellmann is keeping a tight rein on today's proceedings, then this is a really good sign IMO.

 

[RoseMontague]

Come on Rose don't I get any credit for remembering

Yep. I am glad you are here, Grinder. And yes, I appreciate pilot as well (we are not related as far as I know).

 

[RoseMontague]

BBCDanielS Daniel Sandford
Judge in #amandaknox appeal pointing out that everything Lumumba's lawyer is saying has been well-rehearsed already.

If this means Hellmann is keeping a tight rein on today's proceedings, then this is a really good sign IMO.

Interesting, Mchancecnn is reporting only that Kercher family is not in court today.

 

[RoseMontague]

tweets are coming fast from the BBC guy

BBCDanielS Daniel Sandford
Lumumba lawyer: #amandaknox loved "extreme experiences"
19 minutes ago
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BBCDanielS Daniel Sandford
Lumumba lawyer says #amandaknox drank beer and smoked cannabis. Press benches agree she is therefore guilty of being a student.
23 minutes ago
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BBCDanielS Daniel Sandford
@
@KatieFisher__ certainly Lumumba is getting his revenge in
30 minutes ago
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BBCDanielS Daniel Sandford
Lumumba lawyer says Meredith Kercher felt uncomfortable about the many strange men #amandaknox brought back to the house.
33 minutes ago
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BBCDanielS Daniel Sandford
Lumumba lawyer says he is trying to underline the sex, drugs and alcohol in #amandaknox lifestyle
36 minutes ago
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BBCDanielS Daniel Sandford
Judge in #amandaknox appeal pointing out that everything Lumumba's lawyer is saying has been well-rehearsed already.
37 minutes ago
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WilliamsJon Jon Williams
by BBCDanielS
Big day for colleagues @BBCNorth. #BluePeter 1st prog broadcast from @MediaCityUK in Salford later, followed by @BBC5Live. Good luck all!
41 minutes ago
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BBCDanielS Daniel Sandford
Lumumba's lawyer has brought up the vibrator in #amandaknox bathroom. The relevance of that to the murder is unclear on the press benches
41 minutes ago
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BBCDanielS Daniel Sandford
Lumumba's lawyer says you don't know #amandaknox until the mask slips.
47 minutes ago
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[bri1]

BBCDanielS Daniel Sandford
Lumumba lawyer says #amandaknox drank beer and smoked cannabis. Press benches agree she is therefore guilty of being a student.

LOL
Back to Reefer Madness! I have a new avatar to tie in with today's theme!

 

[RoseMontague]

BBCDanielS Daniel Sandford
Lumumba lawyer says #amandaknox drank beer and smoked cannabis. Press benches agree she is therefore guilty of being a student.

LOL
Back to Reefer Madness! I have a new avatar to tie in with today's theme!

And yes BBC guy also says

Lumumba lawyer bringing up #amandaknox exercising in the police station

It's Back

 

[RoseMontague]

BBCDanielS Daniel Sandford
Lumumba lawyer says #amandaknox drank beer and smoked cannabis. Press benches agree she is therefore guilty of being a student.

LOL
Back to Reefer Madness! I have a new avatar to tie in with today's theme!

Such a funny movie, nice avatar.

 

[bri1]

Such a funny movie, nice avatar.

Hilarious movie, until you realise that some people still view it's message as accurate and important
Thanks, Rose.

It shows their desperation if this (and drinking beer, owning a vibrator etc) is the best they can do in terms of character assassination.

The fact that being a stoner can be used in a court of law anywhere in the Western world to show bad character or argue that someone's capable of murder, is a call to all reefer-loving professional folk to come out of the marijuana-closet.

Here's an article about people in the public eye who enjoy our little green buddy:
http://jezebel.com/5144624/35-celebrities-who-smoke-pot

I wonder if they're all murderers too?

 

[Caper]

cant take much more of this madness. When Is Amanda's side ready to speak.

 

[RoseMontague]

It does seem the same rather tired arguments from Patrick's lawyer. I bet Mignini is sleeping again.

BBCDanielS Daniel Sandford
Lumumba lawyer insists police did not bring up his name first, it was #amandaknox who put him in the frame - quite unfairly it turned out

 

[RoseMontague]

cant take much more of this madness. When Is Amanda's side ready to speak.

Raffaele tomorrow and Amanda Thursday IIRC

 

[Wildhorses]

Scares me that the Kerchers aren't in court.

Might mean Maresca is planning the most shockingly gory attack yet.

 

[Wildhorses]

Evidently, I haven't been paying attention. I had no idea Lumumba was included in this round.

SO many prosecutors, so few defense lawyers. Poor Amanda and Raff.

 

[Rolfe]

The day irony died.

I do hope so! The victim in this case has not been ignored, she is being dragged through the mud by those slime balls. Nothing has been off limits when it comes to attempting to put the murderer on a pedestal.

Putting Guede's age and lifestyle into perspecitve reveals the whole "drifter" label as being really off base. It's a statistic around here that the average age that people settle into a future is 27 years of age. If a 21 year old that does drugs, does odd jobs, plays basketball and lives in his own little apartment is a drifter, then the world is over-run with 21 year old drifters.

Actually, Rudy was only 20 not 21, same age as Knox. And he'd always studied or worked until just one month before. It is strange that someone who is only 20, has his own apartment and has only been unemployed for a month, gets labeled as 'drifter'.

Rolfe.

 

[Caper]

I have a real fear that Amanda's "confession" may end up sinking them both. That and the horrid DNA evidence.

I never understood false confessions and confessions made under fear and stress until I watched the pbs doc "the Confessions". I firmly believe it should be compulsory viewing for any human being sitting on a jury. It's something you really have to see for alot of people believe is possible.

As far as the DNA goes.... Another issue the first Jury never got. It's complicated stuff that the lay person has a hard time grasping. I still don't totally get it and I've tried pretty hard to understand. It really needs to be hammered home about the Mixed DNA and the fact that the data could have been cherry picked to come up with the boyfriends profile..... I don't understand it obviously the defense needs to hammer that point home. I'm hopeful...... but I fear.

 

[bri1]

The day irony died.











Rolfe.

I think it died over there a while ago!

But, no, seriously, guys. Please, let's stop calling Rudy a drifter.

Let's stick to what's been proven in court, and call him rapist, murderer, thief, intruder.

And as to his status before the murder? Let's just stick with petty criminal.