Richard Gage Blueprint for Truth Rebuttals on YouTube by Chris Mohr

[newton3376]

There was a time, they believed their physicsteachers. Now they are adults they dont believe their teachers anymore

Chandler is a High School physics teacher Marokkaan.....not exactly a huge accomplishment as far as physics goes.......

 

[Marokkaan]

What a disaster that a whole generation is being is being brought up and educated on a diet of lies and false science. How long will it be before somebody steps up and says 'ENOUGH'. ?

What a horror. Imaging that all my teachers could be liars in their expertise.

 

[twinstead]

What a horror. Imaging that all my teachers could be liars in their expertise.

It is becoming obvious that you choose to believe whomever you happen to agree with, even if the opposing view is held by somebody with VASTLY more experience and respect.

I'd like a reasoned, unbiased argument as to why you prefer to believe Chandler over Bazant.

 

[twinstead]

What a disaster that a whole generation is being is being brought up and educated on a diet of lies and false science. How long will it be before somebody steps up and says 'ENOUGH'. ?

Depends on if ones definition of "lies and false science" is simply "that which I do not agree with", hmmm? It goes both ways. Silly statements like this have been used to "prove" just about everything anybody has ever believed, right or wrong. It's meaningless. It's rhetoric.

Creationists do the same thing.

 

[sheeplesnshills]

Sorry I just disagree. I've done 16 years of prison volunteer work and have met with mass murderers, child molesters, bank robbers... and con men. Lots of them. You can pick up on their sociopathic tendencies before too long. I've known Richard Gage from hours of phone conversations, emails, shared meals and of course the debate itself. I am not ignorant of people. He ain't a con man or a sociopath.

He's just wrong wrong wrong. That's what I tell him anyway. And he's obsessed with his cause. He totally absolutely believes in what he is doing and burns the midnight oil at his office most evenings. Sorry, he's wrong but he is no con man.

Chris, with all due respect, people can be married for years to conmen and not find that out until too late. His level of education precludes him from believing what he preaches unless he was seriously delusional. As you demonstrated every single point he raises is easily debunked, some with just a few minutes effort so that leaves him either knowing that its all garbage and not caring or being so crazy that he cannot tell that its garbage. From what I've seen of him, he seems to have things too much together for him to be that crazy.
Add in the fact that he is the probably the one person most profiting from the Twoof movement it seems more probable that he is a conman rather than crazy.

 

[sheeplesnshills]

There was a time, they believed their physicsteachers. Now they are adults they dont believe their teachers anymore

My Physics teachers were not crazy.

 

[Oystein]

Whatever you think happened, didn't.

That wasn't the question. Clayton Moore!

Are you unable to answer it? It seems you can't answer this:

What DID happen on 9/11? Since the debate is over, you surely have now a pretty good idea and a fairly complete and well-rounded theory?

 

[Oystein]

What a horror. Imaging that all my teachers could be liars in their expertise.

In the last 90-minutes physics lesson of a high school (in Germany: Oberstufe) semester, we built a Foccault's pendulum. 40 Minutes to build it, 45 minutes to let it swing, 5 minutes to take it down. Sure enough, after 45 minutes the plane of the movement hat rotated by maybe 5-10° relative to the ground. Everbody was happy. Except for me: I noticed the pendulum had rotated the wrong direction! I told my physics teacher. He winked and said "You're correct, but please don't tell the others!"

So yes, physics teachers lie. But already as a teenager I was smart enough to catch their lies at least sometimes. (In that case, the whole point of doing the experiment was not prove the earth rotates eastwards, but to reward the class with a fun event and feeling of achievement for finishing the cirriculum one lesson early, so teacher did not want to end the semester on the experience of having done an experiment wrong. A white lie)

 

[Clayton Moore]

That wasn't the question. Clayton Moore!

Are you unable to answer it? It seems you can't answer this:

What DID happen on 9/11? Since the debate is over, you surely have now a pretty good idea and a fairly complete and well-rounded theory?

http://www.brasschecktv.com/videos/the-911-files/911-a-conspiracy-theory.html

Corkscrew turns of events.

 

[chrismohr]

When david chandler said this to you, you almost cried.

Actually Richard Gage has also repeatedly told me I was totally wrong. That's fine. He did NOT say I was stupid, too ignorant to even debate the issue, or purposely dishonest. Those kinds of attacks DO make me want to cry. One reason I try to be respectful always is that I'm a little thin-skinned when things get mean. Another is that the debate derails:
Chris: When the roofline of one perimeter wall of Building 7 collapsed at freefall speed, Gage says it had to be because every support was removed 100% all at once. But that assumes only two forces: gravity and structural resistance. In a building collapse, there can be more than just these two forces: for example, leveraging and torquing.
9/11 Truth Guy: You idiot! You said freefall speed!!! It's freefall acceleration!! You are an idiot! A liar! A shill! No one should listen to anything you say because you obviously don't know nothin about nothin.
Chris: (cries)
So what about the CONTENT of what I said? Can anyone imagine any other force at play in a collapse besides gravity and structural resistance? Are all other possible forces off the table because Chris said speed instead of acceleration?

And Bill, I don't want to get into the question of Richard's intelligence too much. He's smart enough to be an architect. He's no dummy. In the debate I was faster on my feet with spontaneous retorts but that is only one component of intelligence. Einsten was slow to grasp new ideas and respond to them on the fly too.

 

[sheeplesnshills]

In the last 90-minutes physics lesson of a high school (in Germany: Oberstufe) semester, we built a Foccault's pendulum. 40 Minutes to build it, 45 minutes to let it swing, 5 minutes to take it down. Sure enough, after 45 minutes the plane of the movement hat rotated by maybe 5-10° relative to the ground. Everbody was happy. Except for me: I noticed the pendulum had rotated the wrong direction! I told my physics teacher. He winked and said "You're correct, but please don't tell the others!"

So yes, physics teachers lie. But already as a teenager I was smart enough to catch their lies at least sometimes. (In that case, the whole point of doing the experiment was not prove the earth rotates eastwards, but to reward the class with a fun event and feeling of achievement for finishing the cirriculum one lesson early, so teacher did not want to end the semester on the experience of having done an experiment wrong. A white lie)

They have an excellent Foccault's pendulum in the Franklin Institute in Philly.
but I think it took more than a few minutes to set up

 

[Oystein]

http://www.brasschecktv.com/videos/the-911-files/911-a-conspiracy-theory.html

Corkscrew turns of events.

In your own words, Clayton Moore? Should be possible to write this down in 3 or 4 paragraphs of concise English prose.
Or do you let others do the thinking and having opinions for you?


ETA:
Oh by the way, the video tells their version of the "official story" between 0:15 and 0:58, complete plus some added lies and perceived anomalies. So you see, a full story of the events can be told in under 45 seconds.
However, the video spemds exactly 0 (zero) seconds on telling what they think really happened on 9/11. These guys have absolutely no story to offer.
So that video does not answer my question at all, which is why I have to ask you again, Clayton Moore:

What DID happen on 9/11? Since the debate is over, you surely have now a pretty good idea and a fairly complete and well-rounded theory?
A brief version that mentions the what, who and how, that can be read in one minute or less, will totally suffice for starters.

 

[Marokkaan]

Actually Richard Gage has also repeatedly told me I was totally wrong. That's fine. He did NOT say I was stupid, too ignorant to even debate the issue, or purposely dishonest. Those kinds of attacks DO make me want to cry. One reason I try to be respectful always is that I'm a little thin-skinned when things get mean. Another is that the debate derails:
Chris: When the roofline of one perimeter wall of Building 7 collapsed at freefall speed, Gage says it had to be because every support was removed 100% all at once. But that assumes only two forces: gravity and structural resistance. In a building collapse, there can be more than just these two forces: for example, leveraging and torquing.
9/11 Truth Guy: You idiot! You said freefall speed!!! It's freefall acceleration!! You are an idiot! A liar! A shill! No one should listen to anything you say because you obviously don't know nothin about nothin.
Chris: (cries)
So what about the CONTENT of what I said? Can anyone imagine any other force at play in a collapse besides gravity and structural resistance? Are all other possible forces off the table because Chris said speed instead of acceleration?

And Bill, I don't want to get into the question of Richard's intelligence too much. He's smart enough to be an architect. He's no dummy. In the debate I was faster on my feet with spontaneous retorts but that is only one component of intelligence. Einsten was slow to grasp new ideas and respond to them on the fly too.

Tell me exactly what david chandler told to you, you didnt like.

He never said you are stupid. Why do you lie?

You can crie whenever you want, but its clear you did not criticize debunkers, when you had the chance. You did know, your debunkersbuddy was talking about having respect for murderers instead of having respect for a firefighter. And you said nothing about it. You only used an excuse to say, that jref is a hard battlefield(without knowing you are contradicting yourselve )

 

[000063]

Advocating the new science of buildings destroying themselves made you victim to common sense and real, factual science.

Neither the Twin Towers or WTC 7 committed suicide, Moore. Also, science often runs counter to "common sense", especially when the person/people in question have no experience in the matter.

David Chandler explained it like the teacher he is. Very clear to anyone without an anti-American or hidden agenda.

Poisoning the well.

Whatever you think happened, didn't.

Clayton Moore, everyone, evading the question. Let's give him a big hand.

 

[twinstead]

Tell me exactly what david chandler told to you, you didnt like.

He never said you are stupid. Why do you lie?

You can crie whenever you want, but its clear you did not criticize debunkers, when you had the chance. You did know, your debunkersbuddy was talking about having respect for murderers instead of having respect for a firefighter. And you said nothing about it. You only used an excuse to say, that jref is a hard battlefield(without knowing you are contradicting yourselve )

Why do you believe Chandler over other, more qualified experts who disagree with you, like Bazant?

 

[chrismohr]

Tell me exactly what david chandler told to you, you didnt like.

He never said you are stupid. Why do you lie?

You can crie whenever you want, but its clear you did not criticize debunkers, when you had the chance. You did know, your debunkersbuddy was talking about having respect for murderers instead of having respect for a firefighter. And you said nothing about it. You only used an excuse to say, that jref is a hard battlefield(without knowing you are contradicting yourselve )

I will not say what Chandler said to me and a dozen or so top 9/11 Truth people. It's worse than what you see in his "pearls before swine" video about me.

A day after I told Jeremy and you and others that I was no longer engaging with Jeremy because he accused me of being a mix of willfully dishonest and ignorant, you ask me "Why do you lie?"

The best I can do is treat everyone with respect, which I have tried to do. Marokkaan has called me a liar, so I will treat myself with respect by putting him on Ignore. Best wishes Marokkaan but it is time for us to part ways as well.

 

[Marokkaan]

I will not say what Chandler said to me and a dozen or so top 9/11 Truth people. It's worse than what you see in his "pearls before swine" video about me.
A day after I told Jeremy and you and others that I was no longer engaging with Jeremy because he accused me of being a mix of willfully dishonest and ignorant, you ask me "Why do you lie?" The best I can do is treat everyone with respect, which I have tried to do. Marokkaan has called me a liar, so I will treat myself with respect by putting him on Ignore. Best wishes Marokkaan but it is time for us to part ways as well.

Nice dodge, we are not talking about jeremy, we are talking about david chandler, you just lied lol. In the video he never say that you are stupid.

Oehh chris gets frustrated when he can not admit he was wrong lol.

 

[Clayton Moore]

Actually Richard Gage has also repeatedly told me I was totally wrong. That's fine. He did NOT say I was stupid, too ignorant to even debate the issue, or purposely dishonest. Those kinds of attacks DO make me want to cry. One reason I try to be respectful always is that I'm a little thin-skinned when things get mean. Another is that the debate derails:
Chris: When the roofline of one perimeter wall of Building 7 collapsed at freefall speed, Gage says it had to be because every support was removed 100% all at once. But that assumes only two forces: gravity and structural resistance. In a building collapse, there can be more than just these two forces: for example, leveraging and torquing.
9/11 Truth Guy: You idiot! You said freefall speed!!! It's freefall acceleration!! You are an idiot! A liar! A shill! No one should listen to anything you say because you obviously don't know nothin about nothin.
Chris: (cries)
So what about the CONTENT of what I said? Can anyone imagine any other force at play in a collapse besides gravity and structural resistance? Are all other possible forces off the table because Chris said speed instead of acceleration?

And Bill, I don't want to get into the question of Richard's intelligence too much. He's smart enough to be an architect. He's no dummy. In the debate I was faster on my feet with spontaneous retorts but that is only one component of intelligence. Einsten was slow to grasp new ideas and respond to them on the fly too.

Regurgitation of pinpointed events within the destructions from both sides is nonsense to the level of deciding which street vender to surprise your dream person with on dates 1, 2, and 3.

It makes one wonder why the truther side doesn't bang the nails into the coffin by presenting the body of work and the enormity of coincidence.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-0Ms7mId34

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuC_4mGTs98

9/11 was Act "X?" in MSM mind control and dumbing down of Americans.
As the renown seer Hervé used to subliminally say, "The plan, the plan."

 

[Clayton Moore]

In the last 90-minutes physics lesson of a high school (in Germany: Oberstufe) semester, we built a Foccault's pendulum. 40 Minutes to build it, 45 minutes to let it swing, 5 minutes to take it down. Sure enough, after 45 minutes the plane of the movement hat rotated by maybe 5-10° relative to the ground. Everbody was happy. Except for me: I noticed the pendulum had rotated the wrong direction! I told my physics teacher. He winked and said "You're correct, but please don't tell the others!"

So yes, physics teachers lie. But already as a teenager I was smart enough to catch their lies at least sometimes. (In that case, the whole point of doing the experiment was not prove the earth rotates eastwards, but to reward the class with a fun event and feeling of achievement for finishing the cirriculum one lesson early, so teacher did not want to end the semester on the experience of having done an experiment wrong. A white lie)

So at an early age you were misrepresenting. The teacher made a mistake. He wasn't lying.

 

[sheeplesnshills]

=Clayton Moore;7603135

It makes one wonder why the truther side doesn't bang the nails into the coffin by presenting the body of work and the enormity of coincidence.

yeah, why don't they?

9/11 was Act "X?" in MSM mind control and dumbing down of Americans.
As the renown seer Hervé used to subliminally say, "The plan, the plan."

where do you get your weed from Dude!