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What Has Richard Gage Contributed to 9/11 Truth?

Horatius

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Over in this other thread, we've finally gotten Marokkaan to admit that Richard Gage makes money off his 9/11 truthing activities. Now, I'd like a separate thread, to attempt to answer two related questions:

  1. What, exactly has Richard Gage contributed to 9/11 truth?
  2. Is that contribution worth an ongoing salary of over $70 000 per year?


Now, note, I'm specifically not asking if anything Richard Gage has done has any real-world value. I'm considering solely his contribution to the community he has chosen to make himself a part of - the 9/11 truth movement.

That is, is the money that the truthers have spent on Richard Gage a wise investment, or would it have been better spent on other truthing activities, or not spent at all?

Marokkaan has suggested a few things that Richard Gage has done, that warrant his being well-paid by the truth movement:

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Bringing attention, to the world of experts and the world of laymen.

Thanks to him we now have almost 1600 architects and engineers who dont believe in the official conspiracy theory. Thanks to him the 911truthmovement growed a lot with experts and laymen. Thanks to him,(and ofcourse a lot of others) we now know NIST and FEMA totally failed in explaining the collapse of the towers.
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I notice that none of this is actually related to Gage's work as an architect. It's all pretty much just "raising awareness". Can anyone point to any aspect of Gage's presentations that are directly attributable to Richard Gage's professional work as an architect? I don't believe I've ever seen him do or say anything that wasn't copied from someone else's work.

So, can we conclude from all that, that Gage's greatest contribution is as a cheerleader for 9/11 truth?

If we can conclude that, how do his results compare to those of other truther gurus, like Alex Jones, Dylan Avery, et al.?
 
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The "truth" movement, after all these years, is still a tiny cult of petulant children, idiots, ideologues, and snake oil salesman. I'd say Gage hasn't done much at all, but then again none of them have.
 
What Has Richard Gage Contributed to 9/11 Truth?
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Well he made them all look like morons with this.......

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Horatius said:
I notice that none of this is actually related to Gage's work as an architect. It's all pretty much just "raising awareness". Can anyone point to any aspect of Gage's presentations that are directly attributable to Richard Gage's professional work as an architect? I don't believe I've ever seen him do or say anything that wasn't copied from someone else's work.

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His Architect experience is irrelevant (he has not designed a single High Rise nor has he any Structural engineer qualifications.) so he only uses the title to impress the gullible.
And looking at his resume he mostly worked as project management and those "skills" are more applicable to his current role but Project Managers and Gophers 911 doesn't have quite the same ring to it :D
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Horatius said:
Nope, the idea that the smoke seen around WTC 7 was actually from the fires in other buildings like WTC5 or 6 was discussed here long before Gage came on the scene.
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Well then he has just talked crap and solicited money from stupid people which anyone with no self respect can do.
 
I disagree. He's given the remaining 9/11 conspiracy lefties something to hang on to. Otherwise this whole thing would just be a bunch a' Republicans who think ya' need a good ol' boy from Galveston to whip America back into shape. The whole 9/11 Truth thing is like a magnet for fruitcakes. With Judy Wood and her sidekick, Phil Jayhan, and this new Youtube cowboy Joey what's his name, left-wing Truthers are going to need someone who's not taking Haloperidol to keep them feeling good about themselves. Republican Truthers don't need to worry about this 'case they got a real cowboy leading them.

And that's where Gage and Ryan and Doctor Steve come in.
 
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So, ignoring the derail: Are there any truthers who can clearly identify any significant contributions to the 9/11 truth movement made by Richard Gage? Or is cheer leading all he's good for?
 
Richard Gage is like an Amway manager.

Neither really believe in their products, but have to put on the pretense that they do because it helps them make money from the gullible.
 
Horatius said:
Actually, it is a hijack, and has been reported as such. I specifically stated:





So this crap has no place here. I'm asking what original contributions Richard Gage has made to the 9/11 truth movement, and your posts have nothing to do with that.

My response you hijacked was simply pointing out that the claims about the WTC7 smoke were not original to Richard Gage.
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Fair enough..then Richard Gage it is.

Well...how does a person describe an angel ? One who came down from Heaven one day and formed a rock around which the maelstrom of Truthers could coalesce. The rock became an Island and now the island is becoming part of the mainland.

Analogies aside,,,what sacrifice didn't Richard Gage make for the Truth Movement ? He laid down half his income and works three times the hours that he used to work. He lost his wife very likely through the sheer stress of his position. He may even be risking his very life.

Without Richard Gage we would not have a powerful organisation of one thousand five hundred degreed/licenced engineers and architects who have renounced the official story of 9/11 and risked their careers from a sense of duty to the Republic and it's principles of Truth and Justice.

Without Richard Gage we would not be on the brink of breakiing through the media blockade

Without Richard Gage we would not have all the evidence we need to secure a new and fully independent investigation of 9/11 with swinging powers of subpoena.

Without Richard Gage ..Lord...excuse me...I'm getting emotional..
 
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bill smith said:
Without Richard Gage we would not have a powerful organisation of one thousand five hundred degreed/licenced engineers and architects who have renounced the official story of 9/11 and risked their careers from a sense of duty to the Republic and it's principles of Truth and Justice.

Without Richard Gage we would not be on the brink of breakiing through the media blockade

Without Richard Gage we would not have all the evidence we need to secure a new and fully independent investigation of 9/11 with swinging powers of subpoena.

Without Richard Gage ..Lord...excuse me...I'm getting emotional..
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Let's just pretend that all that is actually true. So, all he's done is cheer leading then?

Are you tacitly admitting that Richard Gage has never done any actual architecture-related work on 9/11 truth topics?

Because all of his cheer leading activities that you cite are based entirely on his appeal to authority - an authority that he has never actually demonstrated. He's never started at first principles, and shown a cohesive analysis of the events of 9/11 that, from a perspective of building engineering, proves that the common narrative is wrong. All he's ever done is agree with pre-existing theories - theories that were created by non-professionals.

Richard Gage and his fan boys would have us believe that all these notions, created by and promoted by non-professionals before Richard Gage got into the act, were perfectly acceptable from the point of view of a professional architect. So, if that is possible, what then was the point of having Richard Gage take over the promotion? What is the added value that he brings, which is worth paying him over $70 000 a year? He brings only one thing to the table that you didn't have before: an appeal to authority.

Your whole response highlights exactly the point I'm trying to make: Truthers don't really care about the truth, they just want people who will rubber-stamp their pre-existing conclusions with a patina of respectability.
 
Of course he also brought truthers even further into disrepute by staging that talk at the Royal Institute of British Architects, hiring a room there. This was both intellectually cowardly and dishonest as it was an attempt to make people wrongly believe the attendees with RIBA members and the event was sanctioned by that organization. Truthers must not have anything of value to say if they have to resort to such dishonest tactics.
 
Craig4 said:
Of course he also brought truthers even further into disrepute by staging that talk at the Royal Institute of British Architects, hiring a room there. This was both intellectually cowardly and dishonest as it was an attempt to make people wrongly believe the attendees with RIBA members and the event was sanctioned by that organization. Truthers must not have anything of value to say if they have to resort to such dishonest tactics.
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I was really hoping to find something positive, though.

It's pretty sad that the only truther who's even willing to try to show what Gage has accomplished is a troll like bs.
 
Horatius said:
Let's just pretend that all that is actually true. So, all he's done is cheer leading then?

Are you tacitly admitting that Richard Gage has never done any actual architecture-related work on 9/11 truth topics?

Because all of his cheer leading activities that you cite are based entirely on his appeal to authority - an authority that he has never actually demonstrated. He's never started at first principles, and shown a cohesive analysis of the events of 9/11 that, from a perspective of building engineering, proves that the common narrative is wrong. All he's ever done is agree with pre-existing theories - theories that were created by non-professionals.

Richard Gage and his fan boys would have us believe that all these notions, created by and promoted by non-professionals before Richard Gage got into the act, were perfectly acceptable from the point of view of a professional architect. So, if that is possible, what then was the point of having Richard Gage take over the promotion? What is the added value that he brings, which is worth paying him over $70 000 a year? He brings only one thing to the table that you didn't have before: an appeal to authority.

Your whole response highlights exactly the point I'm trying to make: Truthers don't really care about the truth, they just want people who will rubber-stamp their pre-existing conclusions with a patina of respectability.
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Are you not ignoring the fact that Richard Gage frequently adresses audiences containing relatively high numbers of perfectly qualified people (engineers, architects and so on ) and almost invariably convinces them that the buildings- all three- were controlled demolitions ?
 
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bill smith said:
Are you not ignoring the fact that Richard Gage frequently adresses audiences containing relatively high numbers of perfectly qualified people (engineers, architects and so on ) and almost invariably convinces them that the buildings- all three- were controlled demolitions ?
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Evidence?

We've all seen his videos of talks in front of truther-friendly crowds, have you some evidence he's done the same in front of engineers and architects, and "convinced" them?
 
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